Another question about key coding equipment.

[castin]

Colleagues, I need to invest in some universal key coding equipment. I am thinking about OBDSTAR (I do not like him) X300 PRO 4 (only immo). I know that most of it is online and there is practically no support :(. I need to read the pin from Hyundai I10 2017 and I lack the equipment for newer models. I was thinking about the TDB equipment, or Lonsdor K518?

[Manta1600]

I don't have X300 but maybe will be better to buy im508 + XP400 if you want to program MB

im508 can't read 4d based Hyundais but read good id46 based

[Bishop c4]

go with the TDB and you wont be dissapointed (for Hyundai and kia) the I10 is covered for pincode reading (and after purchase you will find out a surprise)
Best Regards

[Manta1600]

go with the TDB and you wont be dissapointed (for Hyundai and kia) the I10 is covered for pincode reading (and after purchase you will find out a surprise)
Best Regards

Yes will be surprised that something that they advert not working

[Bishop c4]

Yes will be surprised that something that they advert not working
to easy to speak without proof......... please be so kind to present your proof that the tool doesnt work as I stated

[Nicolas13007]

Lonsdor K 518 very good tool; but you have to pay 600 usd every year for options

[jodge]

to easy to speak without proof......... please be so kind to present your proof that the tool doesnt work as I stated

for example (my own experience, my own tool)

every kline PSA key learning is a mess. Xsara picasso, 307, 206...etc
Every old ford key lerning like pre 2001 ford with 4C transponders
Banana shaped keyles ford key learning like Ford Focus around 2007
Opel/Vauxhall pin code reading in general especially when you are trying to read the old kline cars or from the info display.
And yes i've been reported many times to the support team. They don't care.
cheers :)

[autoTkey]

For Kia / Hyundai I learned it is best to go with DiagCode VIN2PIN tool. But supports cars only until 12.2016.

For other cars you better buy a few tools, not just one - X300, Lonsdor, etc.

[super jumbe]

Colleagues, I need to invest in some universal key coding equipment. I am thinking about OBDSTAR (I do not like him) X300 PRO 4 (only immo). I know that most of it is online and there is practically no support :(. I need to read the pin from Hyundai I10 2017 and I lack the equipment for newer models. I was thinking about the TDB equipment, or Lonsdor K518?

I have ran into lots of locksmith boys asking me why we can not programme some keys when tools are capable to programme keys, the bottom line is hundreds of chips were invented for deferent type of cars and some chips need to be programme before programming to car, in short the locksmith takes over 5 years, you can buy the most expensive tools without hard training and investment I would advice you need to think twice.

[castin]

I have ran into lots of locksmith boys asking me why we can not programme some keys when tools are capable to programme keys, the bottom line is hundreds of chips were invented for deferent type of cars and some chips need to be programme before programming to car, in short the locksmith takes over 5 years, you can buy the most expensive tools without hard training and investment I would advice you need to think twice.
I know what's going on. Before I issue another one, I want to ask other users about experience with these devices. There will never be a stage in our business that we have enough equipment.
I am terrified by the specter of using equipment that most operations do online, but I think those times have come.

[Manta1600]

to easy to speak without proof......... please be so kind to present your proof that the tool doesnt work as I stated

no you speek without proof - how you decide that I don't have a proof???

I have Truecode full and bought TDB1000 + Ford only to program 1 Ford Transit 2019 ID49 AKL with active alarm - the tool cost me around £1000 for nothing

I wast 2 days to wait beep beep - Asked few times for support - answer was please read instructions

I have thread 2 months ago about this case you can find it

[whiskeyman]

from what i see the TDB got same functions as obdstar but less cover and more expensive

[Jimmy07]

Found TDB to be strong on Ford does proxy keys in seconds. Strong on Peugeot/Citroen ok on Vauxhall

[castin]

I need something for Asian brands. I have tango + barracuda for Toyota, SKP1000 - not stupid, but zero udate. H100 for Ford and Suzuki.
Lonsdor, OBDSTAR do not have bad reviews, but there is a risk of closing projects for some time.

[Manta1600]

Just saw few videos with TDB1000 for Hyunday - on most of them they program key with pin code from dealer

Also will be surprised that Hyunday don't include Kia - so for total cost of £1200 you will have tool that work with dealer pincodes

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With Autel I just fail to add regular key on i10 2019 ID47 - there is option for key program but can't read the pin code

there is option to read pincode from smart keys ID47 but doesn't work on regular key

[Bishop c4]

now I can see your point so nevermind dont buy the tool because in order to use it there is more involved than just push buttons and collect money.. in the long term its better that way.
good thing is that there are more tools that suit the level of expertice and the demands of all users all over the world I wish all the best with your investments

Best Regards

[rapidlocksmiths]

for hyundai and kia , i have alot of equipment , abrites , smart pro , obdstar , and gscan 2 , i have diagcode from simplediag.ru for hyundai and kia pins , works on all up to 2017 , for models 2017 on i can buy pin and use gscan which never fails on these as you would expect .

[Manta1600]

for hyundai and kia , i have alot of equipment , abrites , smart pro , obdstar , and gscan 2 , i have diagcode from simplediag.ru for hyundai and kia pins , works on all up to 2017 , for models 2017 on i can buy pin and use gscan which never fails on these as you would expect .

What tool can read pin code from Hyundai ID47 blade key ?

or only dealers?

[jodge]

miraclone since 2018...
Reading pin from KIA/Hyundai ID:6E 80bit also in the PIN section (package P12)

[Jimmy07]

Anyone done a 2019 Hyundai Kona with either TDB or OBDSTAR?

[jodge]

Anyone done a 2019 Hyundai Kona with either TDB or OBDSTAR?

https://youtu.be/d4Uc-aiZOSM

[Jimmy07]

Thanks Jodge seen this vid was looking a wee bit more info apparently Hyundai changed the system mid 19 ?

Typical the car I’m doing is August so just hoping it’s been lying in dealership or Hyundai stock yard for a few months 🙏

[castin]

Which site would you recommend to get a KIA / Hyundai pin from VIN?

[jodge]

tdb support if you are user or basically any kind of retailer, like 3d or similar they calculate the pin from VIN. You can buy the sw around 500 usd or something similar

[castin]

Thx jodge for info.

[Manta1600]

tdb support if you are user or basically any kind of retailer, like 3d or similar they calculate the pin from VIN. You can buy the sw around 500 usd or something similar

how work pin code system on Diagnostic box?

from their videos looks like app but I can't find it

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found it - via wikikey

[crankycarl]

autel needs key simulator apb112

[godfathertre]

I thought no tool can add
Keys to latest Ford with
Alarm active and new body control is needed
There was a discussion on this forum about.

[fadifadi]

thank you much dear ........

[Manta1600]

I thought no tool can add
Keys to latest Ford with
Alarm active and new body control is needed
There was a discussion on this forum about.

For sure can - as I wrote in other thread other locksmith after me programed the keys

and they for sure not replaced the BCM - I think that they charged the customer around £200

[castin]

Hyundai I20 2017 EU - remote prepare by XHORSE universal remote. Use SKP1000 and program remote (not immo) as Hyundai Elantra.