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civic-7866
7th January, 2010, 08:19 AM
i have opend the speedo and ther are two 8 pin chips but non of them say 93c on them can anyone tell me what to do

tachonow
7th January, 2010, 08:26 AM
Take out the needles. you will find it under the white plastic. what year is the car?

civic-7866
7th January, 2010, 08:41 AM
its a 2008 ther is no 8 pin chip but on the small bord its got 2 on it but non of them are 93c

civic-7866
7th January, 2010, 08:48 AM
Take out the needles. you will find it under the white plastic. what year is the car?


its a 2008 ther is no 8 pin chip but on the small bord its got 2 on it but non of them are 93c

tachonow
7th January, 2010, 09:22 AM
What for do you need to find that chip ?

drpeter
7th January, 2010, 09:50 AM
i have opend the speedo and ther are two 8 pin chips but non of them say 93c on them can anyone tell me what to do

If you want to change mileage you must program the memory part of the processor, but before you can do that you must program the 8 pin soic eprom 24C32 to enter the service mode. Needle removal not needed, you can solder some wires on back of cluster to read and write 24c32. Then you can program the mileage through diagnostic. Good luck.

tachonow
7th January, 2010, 10:19 AM
Never without proper tools.

civic-7866
7th January, 2010, 10:23 AM
If you want to change mileage you must program the memory part of the processor, but before you can do that you must program the 8 pin soic eprom 24C32 to enter the service mode. Needle removal not needed, you can solder some wires on back of cluster to read and write 24c32. Then you can program the mileage through diagnostic. Good luck.


so what do i need 2 do is it not just the chip you do to do the mileage what is service mode and ther is 2 chips but non of them say 24c on them can some one get me pic of the speedo where the chips are

PremierD
7th January, 2010, 10:27 AM
its a 2008 ther is no 8 pin chip but on the small bord its got 2 on it but non of them are 93c

Sorry mate ..The eeprom is 24c32... And Miconas MCU ...If you do not have R250s programmer then you Cannot do it .....

tachonow
7th January, 2010, 10:28 AM
Right m8 as I say !

drpeter
7th January, 2010, 11:22 AM
Right m8 as I say !

It's more complicated, the passat 2008- can't be done with R250S, the passat 2006/2007 can, the 2008- board is different with NEC processor (no small board like golf 5 anymore), and there are 2 type of boards. They almost look the same but connections are different. Sent me the picture of your board and I sent you the pin connections (photo). You only have to solder 4 wires to read the 24C32. If you want to programm the 24c32 direct then you have to remove the needles.
In service mode you can change settings, like mileage. You must first enter service mode then you can adjust mileage by OBD2 if you have the right tools.

You have a small board, so old cluster I see in your message, you can use the R250S sorry for being blind :-).

PremierD
7th January, 2010, 01:27 PM
It's more complicated, the passat 2008- can't be done with R250S, the passat 2006/2007 can, the 2008- board is different with NEC processor (no small board like golf 5 anymore), and there are 2 type of boards. They almost look the same but connections are different. Sent me the picture of your board and I sent you the pin connections (photo). You only have to solder 4 wires to read the 24C32. If you want to programm the 24c32 direct then you have to remove the needles.
In service mode you can change settings, like mileage. You must first enter service mode then you can adjust mileage by OBD2 if you have the right tools.

You have a small board, so old cluster I see in your message, you can use the R250S sorry for being blind :-).

And the correct tools are.........?

tachonow
7th January, 2010, 07:03 PM
And the correct tools are.........?
R250 or Vag Dash by Obd.

PremierD
7th January, 2010, 07:09 PM
R250 or Vag Dash by Obd.

I did Two passats today mate ..I know about the R250s... So you are telling me that VAG dash can do the 2008 passats by OBD ....?

tachonow
7th January, 2010, 08:36 PM
I did Two passats today mate ..I know about the R250s... So you are telling me that VAG dash can do the 2008 passats by OBD ....?
Yea m8 this is the Vag Dash Can handheld machine from Smelecom.

drpeter
7th January, 2010, 08:38 PM
I did Two passats today mate ..I know about the R250s... So you are telling me that VAG dash can do the 2008 passats by OBD ....?

I think he means VAG DASH PROG:bounce:

tachonow
7th January, 2010, 08:42 PM
I think he means VAG DASH PROG:bounce:
Thanks for correction. You are very kind and gentle.

drpeter
7th January, 2010, 08:52 PM
Thanks for correction. You are very kind and gentle.

Sorry for that, but if you ever get a 2008/2009/2010 or CC version with new NEC board, tell me, I can give you the solder points and sent me the dump to get you in the service mode.

tachonow
7th January, 2010, 09:10 PM
Sorry for that, but if you ever get a 2008/2009/2010 or CC version with new NEC board, tell me, I can give you the solder points and sent me the dump to get you in the service mode.
Thanks again I have sw to put dump in service mode but I repeat for me its not necessary I ll make them by obd.

drpeter
7th January, 2010, 10:23 PM
Thanks again I have sw to put dump in service mode but I repeat for me its not necessary I ll make them by obd.

I thought this was a serious forum :laugh:, even the great Enigma can't do this just by OBD, only after entering the service mode. Just like DP3, Repsoft.
Can I buy your tool?

tachonow
7th January, 2010, 10:59 PM
I thought this was a serious forum :laugh:, even the great Enigma can't do this just by OBD, only after entering the service mode. Just like DP3, Repsoft.
Can I buy your tool?
Ok my friend. I have allready DP3 and Vag Dash prog. That means I can do all that this tools alow.

civic-7866
8th January, 2010, 01:41 AM
hi i got Tacho Universal handheld can i do it whit that and is there any book that tell you haw to do it step by step if there is where can i get from

drpeter
8th January, 2010, 07:21 AM
hi i got Tacho Universal handheld can i do it whit that and is there any book that tell you haw to do it step by step if there is where can i get from

Sorry mate, there is no way tacho universal can do your car.
You need a R250S and I advise you before programming to make a backup of the 24c32 on the small board. Or buy a VAG DASH PROG and program by OBD.

civic-7866
8th January, 2010, 07:56 AM
cant i program the chip in the speedo and what are dump files and i have a audi a4 2004 i got a new speedo for it but it needs codeing what are the good tools out ther for that to

civic-7866
8th January, 2010, 08:23 AM
haw do i get it in service mode

z786
8th January, 2010, 06:52 PM
haw do i get it in service mode

my friend i dont think you have read this thread properly, you need r-250 made by rosfar (or a good clone), then you can edit mileage, if your speedo is service mode one then you need to read the eeprom, post the dump and our friend Tachonow will edit in his software and giv you a dump so you can program it back and it will make your cluster in2 service mode

easiest way i cud put it.

xtwillox
27th April, 2011, 05:44 AM
Hi, I'm working on 2006 Passat and i took the 24c32 chip off to follow instructions w digimaster 3, and lost the chip. HELP! WHAT CAN I DO NOW?

Meat-Head
27th April, 2011, 03:10 PM
Hi, I'm working on 2006 Passat and i took the 24c32 chip off to follow instructions w digimaster 3, and lost the chip. HELP! WHAT CAN I DO NOW?

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xtwillox
27th April, 2011, 03:28 PM
What can i say, got kids

Meat-Head
27th April, 2011, 08:35 PM
What can i say, got kids


1) http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f4/snip-snip-181237/

2) well, get them to look for eeprom, or if their older, get them to go rob another one, simples

obdmaster
27th April, 2011, 08:41 PM
Hi, I'm working on 2006 Passat and i took the 24c32 chip off to follow instructions w digimaster 3, and lost the chip. HELP! WHAT CAN I DO NOW?


The chips themselves are less than 50p BUT , the data on them is priceless.

Hope you read chip before losing it m8?????

If you did you can get new and put your data on it.

If you didnt read chip, before losing it FIND IT

xtwillox
27th April, 2011, 11:27 PM
the problem is when i found it my little one damaged two of the legs on it, and I don't have the data from the chip, I de-soldered it from the board and had it on my work bench, my 2yo sneaked in to room and damaged it and lost it, i found it but damaged ..... :(

xtwillox
27th April, 2011, 11:33 PM
by the way, i found one online but its a dip not surface mount. can I find a dump from another cluster? Would it work? Can the car run without the chip?

z786
28th April, 2011, 12:22 AM
use a fibre pen and rub away where the legs where, use lots of flux, blob solder onto where the legs where and join onto pads, read eeprom anddump data into new eeprom, DIL size should work if you can somehow manage to find a place for it and get the legs to touch the pads (in a word NO) :)

and no, the car wont start without dash

xtwillox
28th April, 2011, 01:51 AM
The gods smiled on me today!
I found a dump (and loaded on the DIP) that reads in KM (I need MI) and its the wrong number of km buy at least the car starts but now all the lights on the cluster are on, like airbag, brake crusie and couple others. IF the dash was on the car but minus the chip would it run? I turns on now with the DIP chip wired up.
Thanks z786

z786
28th April, 2011, 04:30 PM
use VCDS and carry out coding in 17-Instruments, problem solved

xtwillox
29th April, 2011, 05:19 PM
hi, I not sure why but it does not work at all, need hel

xtwillox
7th May, 2011, 05:49 AM
HELP!
WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN A DIFFERENT VIN NUMBER APPEARS ON THE VAG COM THAN THE TITLE OR DASH?

pinkfloyd5eg
18th May, 2011, 06:56 AM
use VCDS and carry out coding in 17-Instruments, problem solved

does it need the old PIN from the other instrument where he got the EEPROM dump from ,to finish the coding procedure by VCDS ?? as in swapping clusters with immo4 ??

thanks..