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vwpassat
10th January, 2010, 05:02 PM
Hi
I have a Mercedes ECU CDI4 2009 A6461501000
EDC16 CP36
Inside there are:
Flash 58BW016FB7T3
MPC564
I haven't found serial eeprom like ST95320
What tool, device, do I need to read/write serial eeprom, Flash and MPC564?

Thank you

cammy25
10th January, 2010, 06:30 PM
EEprom is virtually emulated in Flash. There is no Physical EEPROM.

vwpassat
10th January, 2010, 06:41 PM
Thank you very much for your answer.

1) Concerning serial eeprom, you talk about M58BW016FB7T3?
2) What device do I need to read all ECU Flash, virtual EEprom and MPC564?

Thank you

EEprom is virtually emulated in Flash. There is no Physical EEPROM.

cammy25
10th January, 2010, 07:06 PM
1. Nope. thats Winbond 16Mbit FLASH. This ECU is not like his predecessor with 95320/640 SPI eeprom. The EEPROM is now emulated in software, Its just an adress range in flash.

2. Only BDM can read MPC on-chip flash so reading through BDM is necessary to backup all data. Virtual EEPRM is IN FLASH, so reading complete flash is good enough ( 16Mbit or 2Mbyte).

vwpassat
10th January, 2010, 07:40 PM
I have tried already to read with BDM100 and no results.
Do you know a better tool than BDM100?
Thank you

1. Nope. thats Winbond 16Mbit FLASH. This ECU is not like his predecessor with 95320/640 SPI eeprom. The EEPROM is now emulated in software, Its just an adress range in flash.

2. Only BDM can read MPC on-chip flash so reading through BDM is necessary to backup all data. Virtual EEPRM is IN FLASH, so reading complete flash is good enough ( 16Mbit or 2Mbyte).

cammy25
10th January, 2010, 07:57 PM
Yes CMD BDM or ghalletto BDM. I Use CMD on those without any Problem (EDC16+ (CP36))

vwpassat
14th January, 2010, 08:36 PM
Any news?
What address is located?
Thank you

EEprom is virtually emulated in Flash. There is no Physical EEPROM.

PremierD
14th January, 2010, 09:01 PM
Any news?
What address is located?
Thank you

Hellllloooooo ..is there anyone in there .... :banghead:. Its virtual mate .... so just guess ... you may be correct....:banghead:

cammy25
14th January, 2010, 10:03 PM
There is no static address. I just recognise data.
Depends on how bosch copiled SW.
Post your flashdump and i will show you your keys.

vwpassat
15th January, 2010, 07:59 PM
I can not read this ECU, I have tried with BDM100 and doesn't work.
You mean to remove Flash and to read alone on programmer?
(but I don't have adapter for this Flash, yet, it takes long time to get it/ on the other hand I need just for a car)

There is no other solution to read it?

There is no static address. I just recognise data.
Depends on how bosch copiled SW.
Post your flashdump and i will show you your keys.

cammy25
16th January, 2010, 06:11 PM
You need the right BDM to read it, no need of any desoldering.

CMD1251 or 1255 clone will do the job.

ovidiu1967
16th January, 2010, 08:31 PM
Somebody have virgin dump for this type of ecu or know to calculate checksume for eeprom zone??
Thanx!

Room
16th January, 2010, 08:49 PM
Somebody have virgin dump for this type of ecu or know to calculate checksume for eeprom zone??
Thanx!

Share your original and modify dumps, I'll calc.

cammy25
16th January, 2010, 09:32 PM
WHAT???????????

did you guys ever learned to read thread from beginning?

what da hell do you mean with original and modified AND WHAT do you want to calc??

ovidiu1967
17th January, 2010, 06:12 AM
Share your original and modify dumps, I'll calc.
this is !
thanx!

Room
18th January, 2010, 03:20 AM
Your dump with right CRC, try...

ovidiu1967
18th January, 2010, 04:18 AM
Your dump with right CRC, try...
hi , with what soft or how do you make this modifications?
thanx

Room
18th January, 2010, 05:12 AM
hi , with what soft or how do you make this modifications?
thanx

No spesial soft, HexEdit with /dev/brains only.

ovidiu1967
18th January, 2010, 10:22 AM
No spesial soft, HexEdit with /dev/brains only.
ok.
but can you explain me (privatly if you want ) logic of changes.

ovidiu1967
18th January, 2010, 01:27 PM
ok.
but can you explain me (privatly if you want ) logic of changes.
just an ideea!

cammy25
19th January, 2010, 08:49 AM
Well done friend CRC is ok. But still impossible to personalise with star.
Keytable is still there and VIN too.

ovidiu1967
19th January, 2010, 09:52 AM
Well done friend CRC is ok. But still impossible to personalise with star.
Keytable is still there and VIN too.
keytable isn't here is under 0d640
also Thanx , i understand logics.

cammy25
19th January, 2010, 08:59 PM
0d640 ?? whats there?
keys are always double registered 2x 8 byte.

vwpassat
22nd January, 2010, 11:40 PM
I saw your Mercedes knowledge and I appreciate you.
What do you think, is that sprinter2008.rar file from above, a virgin file or not?

0d640 ?? whats there?
keys are always double registered 2x 8 byte.

vwpassat
23rd January, 2010, 07:32 PM
Anybody here?

cammy25
24th January, 2010, 07:13 PM
No its not virgin as you still see VIN is there.

But to make it virgin you still need you own software that combines with right Bosch hardware nr. else you get strange things going on with ecu faults or even that it wont start up.

vwpassat
24th January, 2010, 10:25 PM
And if I remove VIN we can consider virgin file as simple fact?

No its not virgin as you still see VIN is there.

But to make it virgin you still need you own software that combines with right Bosch hardware nr. else you get strange things going on with ecu faults or even that it wont start up.

cammy25
25th January, 2010, 07:54 AM
VIN and keys
But you cant set 00 just like that ,but kind of virgin data and checksum must be corrected.

vwpassat
26th January, 2010, 07:53 AM
Can you do this?

VIN and keys
But you cant set 00 just like that ,but kind of virgin data and checksum must be corrected.

ana_11
31st March, 2010, 09:54 PM
Hello

How open this ecu so as to not damage board??
Please solution. Foto ;)

Pzolee
9th May, 2010, 09:13 PM
Hi.

How to read ECU?
Regards

Pzolee
18th May, 2010, 11:57 AM
Hi.

OBD2 CMD 1251 or BDM100 ?
BDM 100 pinout?
Regards

Pzolee
19th May, 2010, 12:21 PM
EDC16 CP36 CMD 1251 no eeprom data.
BDM Pinout?

RTVM
19th May, 2010, 02:34 PM
Please post picture from other side of the ecu!!!

Thanks,
RTVM

Pzolee
19th May, 2010, 03:59 PM
But how let me take out the panel?
His intestine is sticked.
Damaga ecu.....?

Pzolee
19th May, 2010, 10:42 PM
He managed to take it out.
Read dump BDM.
Thanks.

Its CDI5 EDC16 CP36 420cdi.
Where is VIN and key?

d640 FF FF :(

Hex editor no VIN....:(
Virgin dump...please?

vwpassat
22nd May, 2010, 10:20 PM
Hi
Finely how did you read ECU by OBD2 or BDM100 pinout?
Hi.

OBD2 CMD 1251 or BDM100 ?
BDM 100 pinout?
Regards