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bbooth1991
20th May, 2020, 06:23 PM
so today (hot as hell) spent hours trying to fix an audi A3 8P chassis after key programming with FVDI. spare key.
So, auto detected CS and pin then found 7th byte from working key, great. Then went to key programming and after that things started to get weird. The dash lost its mileage and said SAFE even with customers original key. tried to recode new and original to no avail. Tried to code customers original back in but again no luck. I have immo off the ECU in the ecu function to get it started but now the speedo and rev dont work and lcd screen are blank. i read faults with VCDS and there is checksum error and not coded correctly faults in instruments, also not coded correctly in ABS. I have attached the file read from immo data and file read from ECU. Is there a fix possible or is iot going to be an expensive audi specialist job?

if you require any more info i will do my best to provide it, thank you in advanced...

alkazav
20th May, 2020, 08:05 PM
are you tryed disconnect battery for 10 min, because i use fvdi to add key to this audi without problems

fred77
20th May, 2020, 08:19 PM
Crap that fvdi.

did u read abs coding cos that can cause even more balls ache. Some coding builders here etc may be lucky if get dash working

rafal
20th May, 2020, 08:43 PM
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/826946-Audi-A3-8P-HELP-PLEASE

Manta1600
20th May, 2020, 11:32 PM
before few weeks I've done 8P AKL by OBD with FVDI - VVDI and Autel fails - So don't blame the tool


Someone here explained how professional is to program key instead to copy


maybe I'm still not profi but I always prefer to copy the chip if is possible

TERMINATOR1000
20th May, 2020, 11:38 PM
so today (hot as hell) spent hours trying to fix an audi A3 8P chassis after key programming with FVDI. spare key.
So, auto detected CS and pin then found 7th byte from working key, great. Then went to key programming and after that things started to get weird. The dash lost its mileage and said SAFE even with customers original key. tried to recode new and original to no avail. Tried to code customers original back in but again no luck. I have immo off the ECU in the ecu function to get it started but now the speedo and rev dont work and lcd screen are blank. i read faults with VCDS and there is checksum error and not coded correctly faults in instruments, also not coded correctly in ABS. I have attached the file read from immo data and file read from ECU. Is there a fix possible or is iot going to be an expensive audi specialist job?

if you require any more info i will do my best to provide it, thank you in advanced...

Tool kill the dashboard !
1° ) PIN + CS (6) from ECU : OK
3°) Find 7 CS with working key : no risk
3°) Programming is an safe process : no write in dashboard , self learning ( 1/2 & 2/2 ) in ignition coil
Concluding : FVDI is dangerous , i hope you can write back immo data ...

TERMINATOR1000
20th May, 2020, 11:43 PM
before few weeks I've done 8P AKL by OBD with FVDI - VVDI and Autel fails - So don't blame the tool


Someone here explained how professional is to program key instead to copy


maybe I'm still not profi but I always prefer to copy the chip if is possible

no tool can do it ( except change CS ) by OBD2 , if AKL , need dealer key from Audi , YES better is copy for AUDI A3 !

Manta1600
20th May, 2020, 11:59 PM
no tool can do it ( except change CS ) by OBD2 , if AKL , need dealer key from Audi , YES better is copy for AUDI A3 !

FVDI can do it by OBD A3 8P up to 06 2006


read PIN + 6 CS and then make up to 256 attempts to find 7 CS

I think that no tool that can exchange CS by OBD on this model when AKL like Autel on Golf MK5

dimon9555
21st May, 2020, 01:37 PM
Tool kill the dashboard !
1° ) PIN + CS (6) from ECU : OK
3°) Find 7 CS with working key : no risk
3°) Programming is an safe process : no write in dashboard , self learning ( 1/2 & 2/2 ) in ignition coil
Concluding : FVDI is dangerous , i hope you can write back immo data ...

If you look at the dump then it’s not VDO cluster! All tool read this cluster no problem.

TERMINATOR1000
21st May, 2020, 04:31 PM
If you look at the dump then it’s not VDO cluster! All tool read this cluster no problem.

no the case for my VVDI2 & 2014 fvdi , can't add keys on some model by dashboard ( particular red LCD ) , better is clone id48 ....
latest dashboard ( black screen ) it's one minute job

rola1971
21st May, 2020, 05:05 PM
no the case for my VVDI2 & 2014 fvdi , can't add keys on some model by dashboard ( particular red LCD ) , better is clone id48 ....
latest dashboard ( black screen ) it's one minute job


i add key in may vvdi2 for all a3
from 2005 to 2012 add and all key lost many time any problem
add key in audi a3 2015 to 2017 to same any problem

TERMINATOR1000
21st May, 2020, 10:01 PM
i add key in may vvdi2 for all a3
from 2005 to 2012 add and all key lost many time any problem
add key in audi a3 2015 to 2017 to same any problem



no topic here , but where do you find 7 CS in AKL on AUDI by OBD2 without change CS ( and no possibility to go back to AUDI dealer !!! ) , I dont understand !!!

Add key yes !

qeso705
21st May, 2020, 11:56 PM
A3 8p have 3 main types of clusters:
-06.2005 on fujitsu + 93c86 possible to do via obd2 without preparation with correct tools
06.2005-06.2008 red micronas, need preparation
06.2008-end of production White micronas need preparation + some additional steps

fred77
22nd May, 2020, 12:34 AM
A3 8p have 3 main types of clusters:
-06.2005 on fujitsu + 93c86 possible to do via obd2 without preparation with correct tools
06.2005-06.2008 red micronas, need preparation
06.2008-end of production White micronas need preparation + some additional steps

gud info and reason to charge well on lost keys.

had trouble in past even on 2006. also seen few dashes go faulty

immoneard
22nd May, 2020, 05:54 AM
no topic here , but where do you find 7 CS in AKL on AUDI by OBD2 without change CS ( and no possibility to go back to AUDI dealer !!! ) , I dont understand !!!

Add key yes !

Do not use that menu unless you have old Immo 3 cars .
That menu even in VVDI2 has many bugs and not working good . Use menu Instruments CAN in FVDI, or in VVDi2 Key learn -VW 4th Generation , then choose what dash you need.

Manta1600
22nd May, 2020, 08:05 AM
no topic here , but where do you find 7 CS in AKL on AUDI by OBD2 without change CS ( and no possibility to go back to AUDI dealer !!! ) , I dont understand !!!

Add key yes !

Rola don't tell anything about OBD - He do them on bench

TERMINATOR1000
22nd May, 2020, 08:50 AM
Rola don't tell anything about OBD - He do them on bench

he write by obd with VVDI2 !


no topic here , but where do you find 7 CS in AKL on AUDI by OBD2 without change CS ( and no possibility to go back to AUDI dealer !!! ) , I dont understand !!!


Add key yes !


yes 3 kind of problems



Do not use that menu unless you have old Immo 3 cars .
That menu even in VVDI2 has many bugs and not working good . Use menu Instruments CAN in FVDI, or in VVDi2 Key learn -VW 4th Generation , then choose what dash you need.


Thanks , this car are not an easy job , generally i refuse to work on , i let this job for my colleagues

rola1971
22nd May, 2020, 09:15 AM
last time used eeprom service mode for 2007 and 2008 year,and for 2011 i read eeprom and micronas after vvdi2 make key all ok

TERMINATOR1000
22nd May, 2020, 09:23 AM
last time used eeprom service mode for 2007 and 2008 year,and for 2011 i read eeprom and micronas after vvdi2 make key all ok

yes , no same story , you'r an real worker , i prefer made Fiat 500 AKL :shakehands:

immoneard
22nd May, 2020, 04:50 PM
Thanks , this car are not an easy job , generally i refuse to work on , i let this job for my colleagues

Everything is Easy if you know what to do .