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Manta1600
5th October, 2020, 07:03 PM
Qashqai J10 2012 smart key old square shape


The customer came for spear key and I saw that on his old key the chip is missing


I tried to program chip pcf7936 for his old key with Truecode and learnning was OK


but after that the car can't start with error B2193 and message on the dash I-key fault


I tried to program 2 more chips also Battery reset but car can't start


The remote on the old key still working


Any sulutions?

rafal
5th October, 2020, 07:10 PM
https://www.google.pl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjIxKfShZ7sAhXrk4sKHZxOC5MQFjAHegQIAxAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.x431.com%2FfileTransfers.do%3 Fmethod%3DfileMove%26inUrl%3D%2Fupload%2Fmaintain% 2F1267174119303Match%2520ignition%2520key%2520and% 2520remote%2520control%2520car%2520key%2520on%2520 Nissan.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2yIOsSo0nXJPb42lORgaqm

Manta1600
5th October, 2020, 08:03 PM
Thanks mate

for what tool is this manual ?

Manta1600
6th October, 2020, 09:28 PM
Any help about this?

what consult model is better to buy for this car?

sdnatlst
6th October, 2020, 09:29 PM
sorry i cant help but i have had a nightmare with one of these AKL before, no tool i had could program a transponder in properly to get the car started. AD100, Autel, OBDSTAR, Lonsdor nothing could get it going.

if you find the magic answer please let me know!!

rafal
7th October, 2020, 04:57 PM
Thanks mate

for what tool is this manual ?

launch..................
i have done one of this before and by launch all went ok
same situation - no chip inside of key

tagirdn
7th October, 2020, 07:23 PM
I had a situation. I was trying to program the chip by OBD. Nothing worked. Made on dumps. The car wouldn't start. It turned out that someone had glued it to the antenna. When I brought the chip to the hatch, the coil read two chips and could not understand , After removing the chip from the antenna, the car started. .

Manta1600
7th October, 2020, 09:29 PM
Thanks lads - I sorted the problem


It's was a chain of mistakes


First I forgot to wrote that the blade also missing I thought that this isn't important but it is


Second some chips 7936 isnt suitable (last time I ordered genuine NXP 7936 but recived Different NXP that tools recognised like 7936 and work for other cars but not for this model)


Third - looks like if the chip is missing you can't put the new chip inside the existing key you must use new or old key but from other car


So after 3 days and many attempts and many programmed chips (locked after programming) I despered decide to try used key from other car with used 7936 chip inside (locked to previuse car)


and I was suprised - the chip was programmed and the car started - After that the keyless on the old key also was fine


So I had 2 keys - the old one with working keyless and the new one with working emergency chip - Then I decided to put the emergency chip in the old keyless key (to have one fully working key) but when I putted the key in ignition ignition can't be turned to start the car - I returned the chip back and the car started again


Finaly If the customer come with key without chip dont put the chip inside the existing key - Program other used smart key with the original 7936 inside

tagirdn
7th October, 2020, 10:42 PM
That the nonsense turns out. . If you have a square key , then there is 7946. How could you put 7936 in there? If you have a twice system, then there are 7936. But then the key is rectangular .

Manta1600
7th October, 2020, 10:54 PM
That the nonsense turns out. . If you have a square key , then there is 7946. How could you put 7936 in there? If you have a twice system, then there are 7936. But then the key is rectangular .

yes its rectangular smart key with twist-knob ignition


but the normal remote key that you mentioned is also rectangular not square also not all of them are 7946 some old models used 7936

p1et
7th October, 2020, 10:55 PM
That the nonsense turns out. . If you have a square key , then there is 7946. How could you put 7936 in there? If you have a twice system, then there are 7936. But then the key is rectangular .

He got the one with twist-knob ignition

tagirdn
8th October, 2020, 12:09 PM
In year 12, there were already 7946. Next time, specify the correct key form. Or I would mention that the lamb on the castle. Or a photo. Then the hints would be in a different direction.

Manta1600
8th October, 2020, 03:19 PM
In year 12, there were already 7946. Next time, specify the correct key form. Or I would mention that the lamb on the castle. Or a photo. Then the hints would be in a different direction.

I'm expecting that here read and write people that very well know how looks J10 smart key


If you need pictures to recognise the keys this is your problem

p1et
8th October, 2020, 03:26 PM
In year 12, there were already 7946. Next time, specify the correct key form. Or I would mention that the lamb on the castle. Or a photo. Then the hints would be in a different direction.

There is no smart key with pcf7946.

tagirdn
8th October, 2020, 04:15 PM
But it's not square either. That's what baffled me.

And this , just to be precise, is prox.

fred77
8th October, 2020, 05:35 PM
There is no smart key with pcf7946.



yes there is :P

fred77
8th October, 2020, 05:40 PM
Thanks lads - I sorted the problem


It's was a chain of mistakes


First I forgot to wrote that the blade also missing I thought that this isn't important but it is


Second some chips 7936 isnt suitable (last time I ordered genuine NXP 7936 but recived Different NXP that tools recognised like 7936 and work for other cars but not for this model)


Third - looks like if the chip is missing you can't put the new chip inside the existing key you must use new or old key but from other car


So after 3 days and many attempts and many programmed chips (locked after programming) I despered decide to try used key from other car with used 7936 chip inside (locked to previuse car)


and I was suprised - the chip was programmed and the car started - After that the keyless on the old key also was fine


So I had 2 keys - the old one with working keyless and the new one with working emergency chip - Then I decided to put the emergency chip in the old keyless key (to have one fully working key) but when I putted the key in ignition ignition can't be turned to start the car - I returned the chip back and the car started again


Finaly If the customer come with key without chip dont put the chip inside the existing key - Program other used smart key with the original 7936 inside



Sounds like you had a bad day.
We all do dumb things ....and then post it here!

If customer turns up with uncut key then tell him extra cash please!! You can't code these keys uncut.
I had one customer who expected me to pick n decode his damn lock for free.

Sod that!