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DeLuXe
19th February, 2021, 11:40 AM
Hi,

I got the key code but when entering the code I got out of lines cuts.
Talked to Xhorse support but they told me to use Lishi tool wich I dont have and the car is about 6 hour drive from here.

Can anyone help me with the correct cuts somehow from the Key code?

Code: 4718HQ
Blade: VA2EH2

I can also pay for the correct cuts.

Thank you,

Best regards,
DeLuXe

rapidlocksmiths
19th February, 2021, 12:14 PM
you need to use ic card 1126 , 1234Q5678H series .

not knowing what machine you are using i dont know if your machine knows to reverse the code when entered as manufacture code .

if wanting to enter direct cuts then direct cuts are manufacturer code reversed , so QH8174 , you could also enter 488174 , QHH174 as direct cuts , all will cut the same key.

assuming your machine cuts these correctly , then its possible the dealer code is wrong or vehicle has had lock change , or door lock is siezed .

you have the cuts already if the code is correct as these codes are the cuts , the direct cuts are the dealer code reversed , most good machines if you enter dealer code under cut by manufacturer code the machine knows to reverse the cuts so does this for you , if you opt to enter direct bitting and insert cuts , then you reverse dealer code and enter it in reverse yourself .

DeLuXe
19th February, 2021, 12:27 PM
Thanks for your fast reply.
I dont have lishi tool as mentioned and the car is about 6 hour drive from here :/

I have Mini Condor Dolphin. Tried as image shows to reverse the code but it gets out of line, just as 488174 does as well.

Any other tips?

Thanks

Best regards,
DeLuXe

DeLuXe
19th February, 2021, 02:01 PM
Renault Clio 2012 doesnt have 95150 in BCM/UHC ?
VVDI2 says Renault Clio III from year model 2005 to 2009 ?
Possible to code the key with FVDI for this 2012 model?

Thanks for the help.

Best regards,
DeLuXe

rapidlocksmiths
20th February, 2021, 12:36 PM
then the issue is your cutting machine , there is only 2 ways to enter with dealer code , either enter code and have your machine reverse it , or reverse it yourself and enter direct cuts . i use keyline and silca machines and it always cuts perfect 1st time . so i can only think that the issue is with your machine.

so if entering direct cuts you can enter ;

QH8174
QHH174
488174
411124
588875

and 50 other codes to cut the exact same key , there are no other ways to enter key from code .

if your machine wont cut the correct key its a machine issue , so next tip would be buy better machine , what do you mean it gets out of line ???

p1et
20th February, 2021, 01:16 PM
Out of line means machine won't accept code 4718HQ which he obtain. Once I also had this in Viper. Solution is to input direct cuts manualy as one of code which you mentioned. His problem is not his machine cuts wrong key.

So input direct cuts which rapid mentioned and all good. When I go quite far and cut VA6 from code, I always cut 2 blades just in case. One cut normally and 1 reversed. Because I'm always confused with this if I get from dealer need to revers eor not,

TERMINATOR1000
20th February, 2021, 02:35 PM
Hi,

I got the key code but when entering the code I got out of lines cuts.
Talked to Xhorse support but they told me to use Lishi tool wich I dont have and the car is about 6 hour drive from here.

Can anyone help me with the correct cuts somehow from the Key code?

Code: 4718HQ
Blade: VA2EH2

I can also pay for the correct cuts.

Thank you,

Best regards,
DeLuXe


Simply connect phone to the tool , use all key lost function , work fine !
XHORSE is not freeware app , if app is not connected to key cutting tool , result is your picture !!!!!!!!
NO PROBLEM

DeLuXe
20th February, 2021, 07:57 PM
Hi,

Didnt work out. Not a machine problem but more that as p1et says and Xhorse support say.. This key need manually input cuts one by one...

Can FVDI program this key ? I see it on the list but can FVDI take out PIN code and program it?
I dont have the car here otherwize i would look for the immobilizer and see if it has a 95160 chip inside as Tango mention but I'm not sure.
VVDI2 can only program from 2005-2009 apprently.

Thanks for the help.

Best regards,
DeLuXe

alex_r_2001
20th February, 2021, 08:14 PM
Six hour drive to make a key wow.. I dont like to go more than 5 miles from my location.. I like to stay in the city... Make sure your %100 positive you will succeed with job because of the distance involved... Goodluck my friend

u.s
20th February, 2021, 10:41 PM
Did a clio III akl today, picked with lishi and entered bitting into xhorse app to cut key on Dolphin, worked fine.

rapidlocksmiths
20th February, 2021, 11:10 PM
yes viper suffers this issue , you just enter one of the 324 possible codes that cut same key till machine accepts one of them . there should be no codes rejected on any machine as direct cuts so any cut is possible , but there are for some reason .

so for direct cuts of QH8174 you con try mixing it , you can enter codes of

488174
411124
588875
481874
418125
QHHH74

etc etc for

position 1 you can enter value 4 or 5 or Q
position 2 you can enter value 8 or 1 or H
position 3 you can enter value 8 or 1 or H
position 4 you can enter values 1 or 8 or H
position 5 you can enter values 7 or 2
position 6 you can enter values 4 or 5

no matter which one you use in each position you will cut the same key , the machine will accept one of them at least , just a matter of running the possibilities of which for this code theres 324 possibilities to cut the same key if using the Q and H values , or 64 possibilities if just using the number values.

i cant comment on whether fvdi will do it , i dont use fvdi snide , i use original avdi , original truecode , original tdb , original smart pro or im608 on these and all do it without an issue .

DeLuXe
20th February, 2021, 11:59 PM
u.s (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/25094-u-s) , Nice. Can you please refer to programming process or with what tool did you program the key? :) Or reference to immobilizer/uhc number ? :)

rapidlocksmiths (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/225894-rapidlocksmiths), Nice, thanks for your information :)

alex_r_2001 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/187126-alex_r_2001), Yeah I know, thing is, this car is bought on auction without keys so I have to get it otherwise I will loose both the money and the car. In other words, for customers then I dont drive so far, no way :)

lion0304
21st February, 2021, 07:19 AM
When car is so far, ask customer remove UCH + door lock. Tango or VVDI from UCH dump and lishi for pick and decoding.

My X6/V8 use VA6 decode menu with 1-4 heights.

TERMINATOR1000
21st February, 2021, 09:59 AM
Hi,

Didnt work out. Not a machine problem but more that as p1et says and Xhorse support say.. This key need manually input cuts one by one...

Can FVDI program this key ? I see it on the list but can FVDI take out PIN code and program it?
I dont have the car here otherwize i would look for the immobilizer and see if it has a 95160 chip inside as Tango mention but I'm not sure.
VVDI2 can only program from 2005-2009 apprently.

Thanks for the help.

Best regards,
DeLuXe

You understand nothing ? This code work , like FIAT OPEL BMW YAMAHA TOYOTA VAG PSA ... CODE
Just need to be connected to the tool ...

DeLuXe
21st February, 2021, 08:12 PM
Sorry...

I thought this code was for the blade and not for the UHC. My bad.

Question is now.. VVDI2 days clio III from 2005-2009. Tango says UHC Clio III is 95160 chip. Can anybody confirm this will work on 2012 year model?


Best regards,
DeLuXe

DeLuXe
25th February, 2021, 12:40 AM
Do anyone here know which tools program this car key? Except ZedFull..

BCM L2 CR according to search online.

Best regards
DeLuXe

p1et
25th February, 2021, 01:21 AM
Many tools with program it via OBD, it's very easy car. Or you can do by dump via Tango, 95160 eep.