View Full Version : 912/9S12/9S12X Programmer
trigital
28th January, 2010, 04:05 PM
So many tools:
912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54
BMW CAS3 Programmer 9(S)12X
and the latest and most expensive is:
CAN and BDM CAS3 9S12 Programmer
This do the same thing? Reading and writing the 912/9S12/9S12X?
melcool
28th January, 2010, 05:49 PM
So many tools:
912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54
BMW CAS3 Programmer 9(S)12X
and the latest and most expensive is:
CAN and BDM CAS3 9S12 Programmer
This do the same thing? Reading and writing the 912/9S12/9S12X?
Yes, you are right...but 912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54 is the latest clone!
carbandit
28th January, 2010, 06:21 PM
Yes, you are right...but 912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54 is the latest clone!
any one got this one ie gold version and is it stable ..?????
Ne0
29th January, 2010, 04:29 AM
I have both programmers - Rosfar original, rosfar "blue box" clone and x912tool.de original and "gold box" clone.
Software from Rosfar ori and clone more stable than soft from x912tool.
I tested "gold boxed" clone with MB EZS, MB CGW, BMW CAS, CAS2, CAS3 - working fine. but if you click mouse or click keyboard during reading or writing - software momentally halted, and in many cases you need restart pc to run it again. ( it's not problem only with clone - same situation with original hardware from 912tool.de - it's sw problem)
Rosfar software more stable. But clone work trough usb connection and if you use notebook with "bad" usb ports (ports without sufficient power) or not connect Notebook to AC power - in this case problem's guaranted.
Original Rosfar, original 912tool and cloned 912tool haven't this problem because use Serial port and external power supply.
trigital
29th January, 2010, 07:29 AM
But why it is named CAN&BDM? The same box can be used as ECU BDM?
Ne0
29th January, 2010, 01:35 PM
But why it is named CAN&BDM? The same box can be used as ECU BDM?
This is different product from YH-Tech - read and write BMW CAS trough BDM and trough CAS CAN-BUS , but realy only trough BDM, working with own software from YH-Tech, not stable product.
Realy working programmers -
Rosfar R260 from Rosfar.com and "blue-box" clone and
X912Tool from 912Tool.de and "gold-box" clone
trigital
29th January, 2010, 03:01 PM
So the BMW CAS3 Programmer 9(S)12X: should be enough for reading and write the EZS, ZGW ?
The 912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54 has only a smart software for calculating the km and service?
melcool
29th January, 2010, 07:15 PM
So the BMW CAS3 Programmer 9(S)12X: should be enough for reading and write the EZS, ZGW ?
The 912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54 has only a smart software for calculating the km and service?
both do the same thing!!!
My advice will be to buy The 912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54 because it have more cars in the list!
and try not "click mouse or click keyboard during reading or writing" as Ne0 says ...in fact is recommended to do this with any programmer during reading/writing
trigital
29th January, 2010, 08:37 PM
both do the same thing!!!
My advice will be to buy The 912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54 because it have more cars in the list!
and try not "click mouse or click keyboard during reading or writing" as Ne0 says ...in fact is recommended to do this with any programmer during reading/writing
Thanks, but this is 10Xtimes expensive that BMW CAS3!
At least my chinese distry quote like this!
melcool
29th January, 2010, 10:24 PM
Thanks, but this is 10Xtimes expensive that BMW CAS3!
At least my chinese distry quote like this!
Try here:
China ECU Tools Centre (http://www.ecutool.com/productshow.asp?id=1824&sortsid=3503&sorts=)
dbilik
2nd February, 2010, 12:16 AM
912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54
can someone tell me, is the clone good or not? i will order from ecutool..?
Works all function or maybe better to buy the cas3 red Box?
thx
Hanukkah
9th February, 2010, 11:22 PM
I have the 912tool.de clone. Its encased in gold box from China ECU Tools Centre (http://www.ecutool.com).
I have not used it yet cause my pc hangs whenever I click on "Load"... Do you guys experience this?
dbilik
10th February, 2010, 12:13 AM
i thing you will have problems with this tool, because this clone "gold box" is not working...
Sometimes you have luck and its work, but the most time you pc will hang up...
motorsport
12th February, 2010, 03:14 AM
yes witch one are beter and steady red case or x12 gold case thanks?
dbilik
12th February, 2010, 10:09 AM
i have read very much about this two tools and in my opinion red one works without problems.
the gold one have many problems with the software.
Better buy the red one. it is more steady.
motorsport
12th February, 2010, 10:58 AM
thanks so mutch
emtec3
14th February, 2010, 03:47 PM
I have both programmers - Rosfar original, rosfar "blue box" clone and x912tool.de original and "gold box" clone.
Software from Rosfar ori and clone more stable than soft from x912tool.
I tested "gold boxed" clone with MB EZS, MB CGW, BMW CAS, CAS2, CAS3 - working fine. but if you click mouse or click keyboard during reading or writing - software momentally halted, and in many cases you need restart pc to run it again. ( it's not problem only with clone - same situation with original hardware from 912tool.de - it's sw problem)
Rosfar software more stable. But clone work trough usb connection and if you use notebook with "bad" usb ports (ports without sufficient power) or not connect Notebook to AC power - in this case problem's guaranted.
Original Rosfar, original 912tool and cloned 912tool haven't this problem because use Serial port and external power supply.
Prompt where to purchase worker "gold boxed" in China :questionmark:
yarecky3
16th February, 2010, 09:46 AM
You can try http://www.e-tronic.ehost.pl (http://www.e-tronic.ehost.pl/). They know what they doing. I have 912/9s12 series from them. it can read write without desoldering ofcorse.
Cheers
phatty123
26th February, 2010, 02:43 PM
anybody try the smelecom 9s12 programmer sold through fjetech?
motorsport
10th March, 2010, 10:48 PM
i have read very much about this two tools and in my opinion red one works without problems.
the gold one have many problems with the software.
Better buy the red one. it is more steady.
i have red case i have make great cas3 XDP512
but it dont want make me cas3 DG256 0L01Y
the software go at liking 6 and stop and say me securised !!
i have install software 9.6 from rosfar
some one can help me :questionmark::questionmark:
Speedofix
11th March, 2010, 06:50 PM
Can that gold box clone from x-12(dashcoder) do mercedes vito 9s12 2007- ezs? I can find manual for soldring but not sw for this ezs on x-12 clone.
stevan
11th March, 2010, 10:32 PM
You can try http://www.e-tronic.ehost.pl (http://www.e-tronic.ehost.pl/). They know what they doing. I have 912/9s12 series from them. it can read write without desoldering ofcorse.
Cheers
Yes but only unlocked MCU,here we talking about locked.
serka35
11th March, 2010, 10:38 PM
i have read very much about this two tools and in my opinion red one works without problems.
the gold one have many problems with the software.
Better buy the red one. it is more steady.
motorsport
12th March, 2010, 01:55 PM
i have read very much about this two tools and in my opinion red one works without problems.
the gold one have many problems with the software.
Better buy the red one. it is more steady.
have red case i have make great cas3 XDP512
but it dont want make me cas3 DG256 0L01Y
the software try read go at liking 1 2 3 4 5 6 6 and stop and say me securised :dontknow: !!
i have install software 9.6 from rosfar
some one can help me :questionmark::questionmark:
sunsation288
27th March, 2010, 09:37 PM
Hello all , since we talk about locked MCU , the programmer use a glitching routine to interrupt the bootstrap sequence of the micro to gain access
....
did they have routine for each maskset ? if i have a maskset not present in the list , do you think the programmer will be able to communicate with the processor ?
sorry to be long , and hope i am clear
Speedofix
12th April, 2010, 04:03 PM
someone that have try this tool on vito 2008- 9s12 ezs?
There is pdf with soldering point's, can't find vito in software?
Regards speedofix?
cammy25
22nd April, 2010, 08:20 AM
sunsation..
freq/power glitch works only on parallell not BDM.
its kind of SS seek system by bruteforce/reset.
hornhunter
2nd May, 2010, 08:09 PM
someone that have try this tool on vito 2008- 9s12 ezs?
There is pdf with soldering point's, can't find vito in software?
Regards speedofix?
Sprinter W908, it is the same module...
tehnosoftex
2nd May, 2010, 11:07 PM
sunsation..
freq/power glitch works only on parallell not BDM.
its kind of SS seek system by bruteforce/reset.
How did you know? On paralel mode do not need any thing because the mcu is locked only for bdm access not for parallel reading or writing. For bdm locked processors it is used some glitch on oscillator , and the coax cable it is for that purpose. I put a scope on the rosfar coax cable at work and i see that the frequency is increasing while the programmer try to put the mcu into boot mode.
tehnosoftex
2nd May, 2010, 11:10 PM
have red case i have make great cas3 XDP512
but it dont want make me cas3 DG256 0L01Y
the software try read go at liking 1 2 3 4 5 6 6 and stop and say me securised :dontknow: !!
i have install software 9.6 from rosfar
some one can help me :questionmark::questionmark:
For that kind of cas3 you can use xprogm. It works like a charm. For mercedes ezs it is better to use the rosfar clone
cosmin12345
9th May, 2010, 05:14 PM
For that kind of cas3 you can use xprogm. It works like a charm. For mercedes ezs it is better to use the rosfar clone
hy guys i have for sale 1 pieces hc912 bdm programer.THis one like the other read write only in circuit.MCU that are secured only can be readed with special adapter and must extract out of board.mercedes can be readed in circuit.
if someone interested contact in pm.
jckhing
10th May, 2010, 01:56 AM
have red case i have make great cas3 XDP512
but it dont want make me cas3 DG256 0L01Y
the software try read go at liking 1 2 3 4 5 6 6 and stop and say me securised :dontknow: !!
i have install software 9.6 from rosfar
some one can help me :questionmark::questionmark:
I've successfully read the eeprom of CAS3 DG256 0L01Y using gold box but I don't have red box so can't test using red box.
rexmundi2010
10th May, 2010, 02:43 AM
Just get the Blue clone. and use Rosfar 2.60
It works like a charm.... if you know what your looking for;)
kentzee
10th May, 2010, 12:56 PM
MBS Tuning Sdn Bhd (http://www.mbstuning.com/electronic.htm)
X-prog is better than cas3 & R260
ghkarim
17th May, 2010, 05:28 PM
hi,
As Rosfar closed their office.
I am using a chineese red programmer : CAS3 programmer.
Does it a good programmer ?
regards
zebbon
18th May, 2010, 01:35 PM
HC912 programmerr TMW
kautuvera
18th May, 2010, 10:04 PM
HC912 programmerr TMW
Hello, friends you ever did programming work? In your opinion, IC HC912DC128a (3K91D) similar to makes you support?
:willy:
kautuvera
26th May, 2010, 11:39 AM
HC912 programmerr TMW
Hi, I got error when I want to enter the program for what?
zebbon
2nd June, 2010, 08:11 AM
Hi, I got error when I want to enter the program for what?
fuse for 12 Mhz exhibited ?
test runs?
aglinsky
9th June, 2010, 08:10 PM
I bought bmw bdm&can programmer (by YH).
But recieved without any manuals.
may be have anyone have any manual?
Thanks a lot advance!
PremierD
9th June, 2010, 08:20 PM
I bought bmw bdm&can programmer (by YH).
But recieved without any manuals.
may be have anyone have any manual?
Thanks a lot advance!
Bought one as well mate ..... sitting in the corner gathering dust... lol
Never could get it to work sorry
aglinsky
9th June, 2010, 08:35 PM
was it with manuals?
may be i get it to work :secruity:
omglol
9th June, 2010, 09:49 PM
Guys, I'm buying another programmer, I need for secured MCUs and 35080 erasing ... what do you suggest to buy - blue CAS3 programmer or XProg-m?
tictach
9th July, 2010, 08:57 PM
Receved a 9S12x V 1.54 programmer from ECUTOOL today and tryed it on BMW Z4 EWS4 without luck.
ERROR CHIP CONNECTION !
Any ideas ?
tryed swapping some wires yellow and violett ..
Regards Tictach
Now i tried this on some cars with 912/9S12.
BMW X3 EWS 4.3 = error chip connection ! not working !
VOLVO V70 912 2001-2003 = working/reads then errror VALIDATION ERROR ! not working!
VOLVO V70 9S12 2004- = ERROR CHIP CONNECTION ! = not working!
FORD MAVERIK 912 -2004= working/reads then error VALIDATION ERROR ! not working!
FORD MAVERIK 9S12 2004- ERROR CHIP CONNECTION !
Notised in log.file that programmer is version 1.2 not V1.54!
ghkarim
9th July, 2010, 09:33 PM
I failed also in reading of EWS4 fitted on BMW X5 - US model - with chineese red CAS 3 programmer.
Always get message asking to check black coaxial cable and purple wire.
elchip
28th July, 2010, 03:33 PM
HC912 programmerr TMW
OK I make interface and software have ident interface as V 0.0.1 and after that I can measure at BDM pin pulse's.
:banghead: But at RESET pin nothing.? always is high - logic 1.
I didn't work with BDM protocol to today and need advice from you or someone please.
By the way if anyone is familiar with AVR asembler here is source code for HEX file which is in your package of programmer ;-)
26330
I am nor asembler expert but someone maybe yes and can help as.
I was compile it in AVR Studio 4 and is same as from your package but no RESET activity on RESET pin.
Sorry for my bad English
Regards to all here on DK
/Robert
esldomino00
29th July, 2010, 09:03 AM
Thanks, but this is 10Xtimes expensive that BMW CAS3!
At least my chinese distry quote like this!
You can try this: (no links to your site please)
good service
dyc
9th October, 2010, 07:40 PM
Connection of dashboard Volvo 9s12 without removing the needels tested with golden 9s12 programmer on s80 ,xc90
napel
12th October, 2010, 10:19 PM
opened, my gold box, and unfortuneally calbles disconeccted from pcb, who has got gold box v 1,54 and can help me with cable connection inside box
genobg
13th October, 2010, 04:59 AM
cable connection inside box
napel
14th October, 2010, 09:28 PM
yes can anybody make a pic and post here?
solar
17th October, 2010, 08:30 PM
Today i try 2007 galaxy with no luck...error chip connection...i check everything,but no luck.When i connect power bottom led red,when try to read another led flashing green,after(after error message) steady green.I do something wrong,or my programmer faulty?
I done galaxy with my diga,but my gold clone fail on first dash.
napel
19th October, 2010, 05:23 PM
Today i try 2007 galaxy with no luck...error chip connection...i check everything,but no luck.When i connect power bottom led red,when try to read another led flashing green,after(after error message) steady green.I do something wrong,or my programmer faulty?
I done galaxy with my diga,but my gold clone fail on first dash.
can you make picture inside gold box and post here
guillermoc
10th December, 2010, 06:01 PM
You have connection for Ford Ranger, thanks
guillermoc
10th December, 2010, 06:03 PM
Connection of dashboard Volvo 9s12 without removing the needels tested with golden 9s12 programmer on s80 ,xc90
You have connection for Ford Ranger, thanks
avtonega
9th January, 2011, 03:38 AM
Gold box: 9S12x V 1.54 programmer
Works fine, just leave mouse and keyboard alone while programming...
guillermoc
31st January, 2011, 01:21 AM
Hello avtonega (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/110798-avtonega/) do you have connection to ford ranger. Thank you
Pzolee
26th October, 2012, 01:01 PM
Hi all.
Gold programmer backup CAS flash dump.
How to write backup flash to mcu?
bersch8688
20th May, 2013, 06:21 PM
I search a new Software Upated for the 9S12x Programmer
bersch8688
29th June, 2013, 09:32 AM
*** PUSH ***
Gives new Update?
i_shot_the_sheriff
18th September, 2013, 01:54 PM
I have bought the gold box from aliexpress with software 1.54!
They gave me the wirings for some modules but i have not any info on how to read simple 9S12 mcus such as in Fiat BSIs! Can the gold box read those mcus?
p1et
7th May, 2014, 04:49 PM
Somebody got working software installer for the CAS3 Pogrammer Blue Box? I don't have CD, downloaded v9.2 and v9.6 but nothing happens when trying to launch installer... Drivers installed fine but I can't install the software on 2 PC's, one with Win 7 and the other one with XP. Any help?
Regards
EDIT. OK, solved... Needed to restart PC but now when trying to make a TEST the PC freezes. I tried on all available COM ports and in every case it's the same. Is that software fault or broken hardware?
rokibar
19th November, 2021, 08:32 AM
i lost software for my yellow 9s12x v1.54 programmer. can someone share with me please?
thanks in advannce
racin-snake
8th March, 2022, 02:11 AM
@ rokibar ... This ? x12 had this for years epic fail better off with rosfar red OR R270 ETC
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