clio

[gordy230]

hi me car wont start ign lights bright but car will only turn over 2 secs and stop any clues wat goes on thanks in advance

[Meat-Head]

start with check the oil, frecnch crap, had that when had no oil or as the french say 'huile' pronunced 'wheel'

[gordy230]

start with check the oil, frecnch crap, had that when had no oil or as the french say 'huile' pronunced 'wheel'

no no not oil or earth strap maybe imobiliser i was thinking any way round it

[Meat-Head]

oh, what does the immo light do?

[obdmaster]

Does engine crank over slowly or normally. Is it a petrol or diesel and what year?

[z786]

does the red flashing light stay on or flash faster when you try to start?


ps. can you make your thread title abit more informative next time
thnx

[wizz2c]

check the fuse box on n/s inner wing the block connectors get corroded also in the same fuse box check the two small black relays they too suffer from pin contact corrosion

[obdmaster]

If its a clio II diesel they stop the crank signal to starter if crank sensor not giving a signal to ecm . Not a big job. Part is relatively cheap around ?20 to ?30. Best to put it on diagnostics first, but cause the part is so cheap you might want to get one and fit it yourself there on top of gearbox m8. If my memory correct they have a round plug and are held on by two 10mm bolts on a metal concave bracket.




Ps you cant go off ignition lights being bright there leds, not bulbs if cranks over slow probably your battery!!!

[gordy230]

If its a clio II diesel they stop the crank signal to starter if crank sensor not giving a signal to ecm . Not a big job. Part is relatively cheap around ?20 to ?30. Best to put it on diagnostics first, but cause the part is so cheap you might want to get one and fit it yourself there on top of gearbox m8. If my memory correct they have a round plug and are held on by two 10mm bolts on a metal concave bracket.




Ps you cant go off ignition lights being bright there leds, not bulbs if cranks over slow probably your battery!!!

hi its y reg petrol i put battery pack on and found out it was imobiliser i have got round that now so with pack on it turns over but no fire up if crank senser fumped i would not get spark i will check for a spark when ive charged the battery up it lay up over that cold spell you think its gubbed ecu what you think thanks

[obdmaster]

hi its y reg petrol i put battery pack on and found out it was imobiliser i have got round that now so with pack on it turns over but no fire up if crank senser fumped i would not get spark i will check for a spark when ive charged the battery up it lay up over that cold spell you think its gubbed ecu what you think thanks


How did you get round im*obiliser? Did you disconnect negative when charging battery, if not do so. So everything with software in it starts a fresh on nice battery voltage m8.


Ps immobiliser on clio II does not stop crank!!

[gordy230]

How did you get round im*obiliser? Did you disconnect negative when charging battery, if not do so. So everything with software in it starts a fresh on nice battery voltage m8.


Ps im*obiliser on clio II does not stop crank!!

its the bubble headlights is it clio III facelift left key with ign on for 5 mins re learnt key then it allowed me to turn over but wont start is this ok

[obdmaster]

Does the im*obiliser led on dash go out when you put key in ignition and switch ignition on m8? If it does put it on diagnostic machine m8!

[gordy230]

Does the im*obiliser led on dash go out when you put key in ignition and switch ignition on m8? If it does put it on diagnostic machine m8!

why what will that mean cant you read it if its on or not cheersthe last code i got out this was pcm processor fault but i think it was because of heavy snow and the ecu got wet i was hoping i could dry it out or it would rectify itself p0606 was the code

[gordy230]

why what will that mean cant you read it if its on or not cheersthe last code i got out this was pcm processor fault but i think it was because of heavy snow and the ecu got wet i was hoping i could dry it out or it would rectify itself p0606 was the code

hi i got code p0606 processor fault and the battery is flat does anyone know if it shows this fault because it is flat thanks

[obdmaster]

You cant rely on any codes, when a battery has been slowly drained. You would be better off getting new battery clear codes and see what happens m8

[gordy230]

You cant rely on any codes, when a battery has been slowly drained. You would be better off getting new battery clear codes and see what happens m8

cheers ill go wae that the now charging battery

[Ashraf6119]

Hi

Have you tried with other key as Clio keys do give trouble some times.

If you don't have other key then try replacing with New Battery in the key as they have a electronic chip in there they dont like low battery voltage.

Or try cloning your key on T5 Chip

Hope This Helps

Ash

[obdmaster]

Hi

Have you tried with other key as Clio keys do give trouble some times.

If you don't have other key then try replacing with New Battery in the key as they have a electronic chip in there they dont like low battery voltage.

Or try cloning your key on T5 Chip

Hope This Helps

Ash


The battery in the key is for the remote only, not the transponder chip they dont need a battery m8. This woont help you m8

[Meat-Head]

The battery in the key is for the remote only, not the transponder chip they dont need a battery m8. This woont help you m8

I agree with Ashraf6119 , think of it logically, it's french, you let the remote battery go flat, no start, "opposite to what you expect, but makes perfect sense when explained."

Yes defo worth checking, but the iimmo light would be flashing like it's signaling to the russians or something.

[wizz2c]

hi have you checked what i suggested in my last post,as this was 90% the case in all clio's i have repaired with symptoms to yours.

[obdmaster]

I agree with Ashraf6119 , think of it logically, it's french, you let the remote battery go flat, no start, "opposite to what you expect, but makes perfect sense when explained."

Yes defo worth checking, but the iim*o light would be flashing like it's signaling to the russians or something.


You can clone a clio key, meathead to one that has no battery in it. im 100% sure that the transponder doesnt need a battery dont confuse things m8

[Meat-Head]

You can clone a clio key, meathead to one that has no battery in it. im 100% sure that the transponder doesnt need a battery dont confuse things m8

No going to argue as it involves energy, just call it a truce and say we are both correct as it is freanch and same year car etc but TOTALLY differant to the last one

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(ignore the i/r led) 'this' i'm sure you are correct in saying need no batterys
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[Ashraf6119]

Hi All

I personal have done this not once had many time's Clio with this problems once you change the Battery the car starts also many time if you try to read the chip on any tool you will see it saying Non Transponder. and the same key by changing Battery it will read with Transponder XXXXXXXXXXXXX.

I am sure if you take your key to any body who can read if there is Transponder in and what type it is.

You will see it will come up as Non Transponder Key, and if you can read than just ask him to copy it for you on an T5 chip and than come and try it starting .

Out of 10 Clio's 7 of them i have come a cross are always Key Fault Trust Me Give it a Try its only going to cost you Few ?


Good luck

Ash

[obdmaster]

I agree sometimes immobiliser problem is key, but sure changing batterys don't make any difference as a transponder doesn't need a battery the transponder aerial powers it . Anyway I'm not going to argue . If you two boys want to think changing batteries will fix immobiliser on a transponder key, you can.

[synkrotronic]

hi me car wont start ign lights bright but car will only turn over 2 secs and stop any clues wat goes on thanks in advance

Hi you have 3 micro relays,near battery,inside a box.
Please confirm if are good.
You could change them ,one by other to see if result.
If work change all 3 for news.

Regards

[gordy230]

Hi you have 3 micro relays,near battery,inside a box.
Please confirm if are good.
You could change them ,one by other to see if result.
If work change all 3 for news.

Regards

hi ive charged the battery up still no start i have spark the immob light on with ign stays lit when cranking checked fuses dont know if fuel getting up anyone know what relay/fuse it is is immob light doing right thing mind im getting spark can you spray easy start to these to substitute fuel

[obdmaster]

[QUOTE=gordy230;436730]hi ive charged the battery up still no start i have spark the im*ob light on with ign stays lit when cranking checked fuses dont know if fuel getting up anyone know what relay/fuse it is is im*ob light doing right thing mind im getting spark can you spray easy start to these to substitute fuel[/QUO



you have immobiliser problem m8.Now you will need to put it on diagnostics, reason why doesnt start is there is no injector pulse to injectors, because the ecu hasnt recieved start permission, from immobiliser/bcu.

[gordy230]

[QUOTE=gordy230;436730]hi ive charged the battery up still no start i have spark the im*ob light on with ign stays lit when cranking checked fuses dont know if fuel getting up anyone know what relay/fuse it is is im*ob light doing right thing mind im getting spark can you spray easy start to these to substitute fuel[/QUO



you have im*obiliser problem m8.Now you will need to put it on diagnostics, reason why doesnt start is there is no injector pulse to injectors, because the ecu hasnt recieved start permission, from im*obiliser/bcu.

hi sorry about this the immo light comes on with ign then goes out after about 3 secs but wont start cheers

[obdmaster]

Hi you have 3 micro relays,near battery,inside a box.
Please confirm if are good.
You could change them ,one by other to see if result.
If work change all 3 for news.

Regards


Check relays as said by synkrotronic, they are known for corrosion. If ok you will have to put on diagnostics m8.:banghead:

[gordy230]

Check relays as said by synkrotronic, they are known for corrosion. If ok you will have to put on diagnostics m8.:banghead:

all of the relays is it corrosion on plug or inside relay is it the wee black ones sorry for been a pest after i turned over a few times i went and red codes and it said there were none i havent checked for fuel yet is there a fuse for pump or a relay thanks

[obdmaster]

all of the relays is it corrosion on plug or inside relay is it the wee black ones sorry for been a pest after i turned over a few times i went and red codes and it said there were none i havent checked for fuel yet is there a fuse for pump or a relay thanks


Theres 3 small black relays fuel pump, engine control relay, not sure what third one is. Give em a wiggle and see if she starts. Thats only advice i can give now without seeing it myself, m8.:banghead:

[gordy230]

Theres 3 small black relays fuel pump, engine control relay, not sure what third one is. Give em a wiggle and see if she starts. Thats only advice i can give now without seeing it myself, m8.:banghead:

cheers for yer help

[wizz2c]

whats wrong with you lot i have been saying the same thing all along are my posts invisible:rolleyes:

[gordy230]

whats wrong with you lot i have been saying the same thing all along are my posts invisible:rolleyes:

hi update now my immo light comes on with ign goes out after about 3 secs im getting spark im getting fuel up to injecter rail dont know what its doing from there coul it be ecu injecter drivers helppp please

[Meat-Head]

not sure what third one is.

pretty sure it is for starter motor, but won't arguee if anybody disagrees


whats wrong with you lot i have been saying the same thing all along are my posts invisible:rolleyes:

Hrrm you find that on here from time to time.

Would be more inclined to check that 85/86 have power when required, or link them out!

[obdmaster]

All i can tell you is immobiliser stops injector pulse.

[Ashraf6119]

Hi Gordy230,

Why don't you just get this car Diagnosed and see what fault codes you have and make your life easy :confused:

Also have you tried to start with easy start ?


Ash

[gordy230]

All i can tell you is im*obiliser stops injector pulse.

hi if it is immo how do you get round that do you have to programme it with the clip

[PierreTheron]

Do diagnostics
Escpecially check pressure on fuel rail while cranking.
If too low you might have a pressure lost due to cracked o-ring on relieve valve ..

[eduardo74]

I have same problem with Clio MK2 1.2 8v my2003, car crank but not start, i checked all fuses and relays.
With clip cannot enter in ECU. Checked ECU voltage and have all + on few pins. Ground is also ok.
Clip diagnose in immo, transpoder error.
Any help?

[ninja123]

is your immo light led flashing, staying on, or going out after 3 seconds??

ninja

[albertros]

Hi,
Here is a tip.

You need to test the transponder is ok, its very common for it to go down and the central locking part to still work.
If you havn't got zedbull try :-
observe immo light, you say it goes out after 3 secs
Open the key, just like you are changing the battery, now try to start the car with the blade half of the key. The light should flash fast now. Car won't start.
If this is the case the transponder is probably working. I.E. Full key = light goes out / half key light flashes fast.

The only exception is if the transponder has been duplicated and stuck in the blade part.

[albertros]

I have same problem with Clio MK2 1.2 8v my2003, car crank but not start, i checked all fuses and relays.
With clip cannot enter in ECU. Checked ECU voltage and have all + on few pins. Ground is also ok.
Clip diagnose in immo, transpoder error.
Any help?


Hi,
your key is completely different supporting a pcf7946 chip

Replace the key or a transponder preformated for your clio.

[eduardo74]

immo light stays on, not flashing, just stay on when turn ignition.

[ninja123]

Make sure battery voltage is above 12.2 volts, then leave ignition on for 5 mins, then just turn to crank position and should start.

Other reason can be a wiring fault around engine bay fuse box.

Done loads of these in this situation, and leaving ign on for 5 mins has cured every petrol model, but never sorted a diesel this way.

ninja

[PierreTheron]

I have same problem with Clio MK2 1.2 8v my2003, car crank but not start, i checked all fuses and relays.
With clip cannot enter in ECU. Checked ECU voltage and have all + on few pins. Ground is also ok.
Clip diagnose in immo, transpoder error.
Any help?


Seems like a defo key problem.(But maybe not??Check supply to ecu under load??)

What does immo light do???
:beer:

[eduardo74]

Is that in case that cannot diagnose ecu?

[miha99]

If motor ecu is blocked - NO immo signal or wrong signal... than no chance to connect with any diagnostic device.

[bonecrusher]

Miha99 Let me get this right if the key is faulty or no signal to ECU then diagnostics not possible with ECU
I was stuck with a job like this(immo light goes off when key in ignition) could'nt get it right, the customer ~~~~ed off to the dealer to sort it out

[PierreTheron]

Hey

Just for info

If you can not do diagnostics.

Disconnect everything possible on the diagnostics line .

Then only start to connect one unit at a time till you find the faulty unit that pulls it down..

Faulty unit you can send to me so that i can chuck it in the dustbin..:beer::beer:

[rideon]

immo light stays on, not flashing, just stay on when turn ignition.=>key ok,bcm ok,ecm nok,smack the relay under the bonnet,while you are there,check the plug between the engine and body harness,99% is full of water and,or corrosion.

[dopsleutel13]

:top:
Faulty unit you can send to me so that i can chuck it in the dustbin..Better the whole car ..:pepsi:

[brabusw124]

You cant rely on any codes, when a battery has been slowly drained. You would be better off getting new battery clear codes and see what happens m8

i can not find the pin i have the cut