EDC17 BDM pinout

[marcolr]

Hi,
I need the BDM port pinout for connect a EDC17C60 to a KTAG.
I have bought the 14P600KT04 adapter and the 14P600KT03 cable. But they take several days to arrive and I need to recover an ECU urgently.
Can someone pass me the pinout from the BDM port of the ecu to the DB15 connector of the Ktag and where to connect the boot cable?

Thanks in advance

[2xded]

Is this cable (https://www.drive2.ru/b/549200011833901876/) in question?
— GREEN — CAN L;
— ORANGE (2 шт) — VKEY;
— YELLOW — K LINE;
— RED (2 шт) — VECU;
— BLACK (2 шт) — GND;
— PURPLE — VPP;
— WHITE — CAN H;
— BROWN — RESET;
— GRAY — BOOT;
— BLUE — CNF1.

[teerak2uk]

Is this cable (https://www.drive2.ru/b/549200011833901876/) in question?
— GREEN — CAN L;
— ORANGE (2 шт) — VKEY;
— YELLOW — K LINE;
— RED (2 шт) — VECU;
— BLACK (2 шт) — GND;
— PURPLE — VPP;
— WHITE — CAN H;
— BROWN — RESET;
— GRAY — BOOT;
— BLUE — CNF1.Kess don't have DB15

[2xded]

Are you talking about 14P600KT02 cable for Kess?

[teerak2uk]

Are you talking about 14P600KT02 cable for Kess?I think so yes

[marcolr]

Are you talking about 14P600KT02 cable for Kess?

No. I’m talking about pinout from EDC17 BDM port to Ktag DB15 port.

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[2xded]

Sorry, I misunderstood your question in # 1. :(
Maybe this will help you?

[marcolr]

Sorry, I misunderstood your question in # 1. :(
Maybe this will help you?

Thanks for your effort mate but or I explain bad or you don´t understand my problem.
I need connect the ecu as in the last page of PDF "GPT PSA_2" that you uploaded, but I don´t have the 14P600KT04 adapter or the 14P600KT03 cable (the last two pictures that I uploaded in the post 6)
Then I need the pinout for connect the ecu to Ktag (from BDM port of the EDC17 to DB15 of Ktag) and with this pinout, I can connect the ecu without adapter (by soldering cables).
I already bought the 14P600KT04 adapter and the 14P600KT03 cable, but it´ll arrive in 15 days to my house and I need recover a faulty ecu.

Regards

[2xded]

I suppose the connections can be made with ordinary wires according to the diagrams from my post. This is certainly inconvenient, but possible, IMHO.

[marcolr]

I suppose the connections can be made with ordinary wires according to the diagrams from my post. This is certainly inconvenient, but possible, IMHO.

I need something like this picture but for EDC17 and Ktag. The picture is for EDC16 and Galletto.

Regards

[2xded]

Does the tricore have a BDM port?

[proel]

Not. there are only pins that you can already find on the connector side (can bus, gnd, ign, vcc) there are no special bdm pins. Wrong way to recover ecu. It is better to describe your problem in detail.

[carmageddon]

Does the tricore have a BDM port?

NO

BDM mode/pinout its ONLY for motorola mpc (edc16, me9, some siemens etc), not for infineon tricore

[2xded]

How to explain this to a topic starter?

[proel]

It is always better to ask people on the forum how to solve a problem instead of developing theories for a solution ... simply

[marcolr]

First of all, thanks for your help friends.


The initial problem was that when programming an EDC17C60 with a KTM Bench it stopped over 12% and part of the internal flash of the mic is erased.
The KTM Bench continues to identify the ECU but it won't let me read or write because it gives me an incorrect password error.
So I wanted to try to recover the ECU with the Ktag, but connecting the ECU by pinout and Boot mode does not recognize it and does not allow me to load the backup.
This is why I thought that I could communicate through that port as in the EDC16 to be able to recover the ecu. But if you tell me that it is the same as connecting the cables to the pins of the ecu, then I imagine that it will not communicate with the katag even if I use the adapter.

Regards

[rfernandes]

you have to wait for gpt cable mate..and recover will be ok

[marcolr]

you have to wait for gpt cable mate..and recover will be ok

I already have gpt cable, what I don’t have is 14P600KT04 adapter and 14P600KT03 cable.
But even with gpt cable connected the Ktag can’t comunicate with ecu.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210411/2bdb4f71cbc0f60fbed845532adf9f38.jpg

[rfernandes]

when you try to do that you use protocol menu or you go on brand type?

[marcolr]

when you try to do that you use protocol menu or you go on brand type?

I tried both and same result.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210411/84f970d007b135385965902c34583052.jpg

[rfernandes]

when you plug the pins from cables to ecu,there is any strengh or go easy?if it go easy try to close a little bit the pins from the cables

[marcolr]

when you plug the pins from cables to ecu,there is any strengh or go easy?if it go easy try to close a little bit the pins from the cables

There is any strengh. I can read and write other good EDC17C60 that I have here whitout any problem with the same cable and same ktag

[proel]

First of all, thanks for your help friends.


The initial problem was that when programming an EDC17C60 with a KTM Bench it stopped over 12% and part of the internal flash of the mic is erased.
The KTM Bench continues to identify the ECU but it won't let me read or write because it gives me an incorrect password error.
So I wanted to try to recover the ECU with the Ktag, but connecting the ECU by pinout and Boot mode does not recognize it and does not allow me to load the backup.
This is why I thought that I could communicate through that port as in the EDC16 to be able to recover the ecu. But if you tell me that it is the same as connecting the cables to the pins of the ecu, then I imagine that it will not communicate with the katag even if I use the adapter.

Regards

Yes, right!
I suppose it was china clone ... expected ... Upload backup files maybe someone generate pwd.

[marcolr]

Yes, right!
I suppose it was china clone ... expected ... Upload backup files maybe someone generate pwd.

Yes, you suppose well. It was with a china clone KTM Bench.

I upload the flash and eeprom to see if someone can calculate the password

Thanks in advance

[elektronik325]

Hi Frend. Did you read your beckup before you started uploading Ktm? And for Ktag you need to do boot mode. Open the driver and connect the boot pin to pin 6 of the processor (gray cable with a crocodile clip), otherwise you will not be able to read it.

[marcolr]

Hi Frend. Did you read your beckup before you started uploading Ktm? And for Ktag you need to do boot mode. Open the driver and connect the boot pin to pin 6 of the processor (gray cable with a crocodile clip), otherwise you will not be able to read it.

Yes, I read backup before had any problems. An yes, I already open the ecu and connected boot mode to try recover with Ktag. And I tried with module 53 of KTM Bench using boot mode and the KTM connect with the ecu but can´t read or write because the problem of password

[elektronik325]

And how did you take the ktm reading. Did you write down your password? If so, try to give him this file and he should upload the ori read file. I noticed that Ktm has a problem with the checksum of the file. And when you upload a modified file, it will not be able to upload it correctly. If you don't have a saved password. It remains for you to upload the Ktag. directly beckup. If you try to read it, it won't go. And separately uploading only immediately beckup.

[marcolr]

And how did you take the ktm reading. Did you write down your password? If so, try to give him this file and he should upload the ori read file. I noticed that Ktm has a problem with the checksum of the file. And when you upload a modified file, it will not be able to upload it correctly. If you don't have a saved password. It remains for you to upload the Ktag. directly beckup. If you try to read it, it won't go. And separately uploading only immediately beckup.

I read the files (flash and eeprom) by KTM Bench without open ecu. After I write a modified file and all was well. The car start and runs perfectly, but after a few starts the car stops to start because of the problem that you say. Then I try to upload the original file to start the car and was here where the KTM stops in the middle of process.
I don´t have the password because I don´t read it before.
With Ktag I already tried all (read full backup, read flash, read eeprom, write flash, write eerpom and write a full backup of other ecu with identical part number because I don´t have full backup of this ecu) and same result in all tries. The Ktag can´t comunicate or
identify the ecu.

[2xded]

...
The Ktag can´t comunicate or identify the ecu.
That is what is the problem! You may need a replacement ECU.

[elektronik325]

I get it. It's strange since he uploaded and it was ok for a pair of start car. I would say it's the driver's fault. Since you didn't open the ECU sooner, you don't have one to beckup. Because katak tracks it via GPT and it must additionally be in boot mode to pin 6 of the processor gray katag boot cable. Otherwise it won't be read by katagas. Well, it's not good that you don't have the processor password. And if you connect the driver to the car, do you still connect?

[elektronik325]

Give your friend the ECU number. Then I will see if I have such a set of files.

[marcolr]

Give your friend the ECU number. Then I will see if I have such a set of files.
The data of ecu is 0281032456_1037555072_10SW016308_TC1793.
I have several sets of files readed with ktag for the same ecu number, but I can´t write it in the ecu because ktag can´t comunicate.
The ecu doesn´t have any hardware damage. The problem is that a part of data in the internal flash was erased.
The KTM Bench can identify ecu but can´t write or read anything now and it gives me an error related with password

[gia]

unfortunately I do not know come and help you.I only found this
unfortunately I do not know come and help you.I only found this

[elektronik325]

Here you have the full ktm reading, try to give him the password manually and upload this set. And then try to change. If it helps you, please give thanks and reputation. :)

[marcolr]

I want to say thanks for all members that try to help me. But I want to give a special THANKS for the member "proel" without his help I never could reach a good final.

Best regards

[gia]

I want to say thanks for all members that try to help me. But I want to give a special THANKS for the member "proel" without his help I never could reach a good final.

Best regardswhat is the solution to the problem?

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[galiza]

Hi, i have the same problem. Readed with KTM1.2 (71 module, bench) ok. Then I tried to write and stopped at 2%.
No ktag communication.
Only ktm (53 module, boot) can recognize it but can not write.

Could someone give me some advice? please.

[AUTOUNIT]

Hello Friend,

U have the set of ECU EDC17c69 read with KTM ? is a Jeep Renegade 0281031034 .

[TulioPinter]

Hi all, I'm new to the forum. I too have the same problem with an edc17c69 Jeep Renegade, I read flash and eeprom with ktm bench but writing the flash stopped at 2%. Now I can't read and write flash with any tool. Can someone help me? Many thanks in advance

[TulioPinter]

I also tried to use the new Kess3 by connecting in bench mode and in boot mode but no identification is completed. If I buy the 14P600KT04 bdm adapter could it solve the problem? Does anyone know the pinout of this adapter?

[proel]

Do you try to send logs to Oleg ?

[TulioPinter]

Here are the flash and eeprom backup files.
Now I can only read and write the eeprom using the ktm bench. The flash is neither read nor written, password error.
I would like to try to read it with kess3 from the bdm port but I need the pinuot of the bdm port because I don't have the p600kt04 adapter.

[ker0sin]

Hi,
I need the BDM port pinout for connect a EDC17C60 to a KTAG.
I have bought the 14P600KT04 adapter and the 14P600KT03 cable. But they take several days to arrive and I need to recover an ECU urgently.
Can someone pass me the pinout from the BDM port of the ecu to the DB15 connector of the Ktag and where to connect the boot cable?

Thanks in advance


make all the specified contacts in all three figures
- this reading method works after a short circuit