DS150 good quality single board required components

[crouchinggerbil]

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[etzkaaa]

Hello, would this (two board with bluetooth) work with 2020 software and new firmware. SI9241AEY already replaced, is it necessary to change something else? Like can filters? Now it works great with 2017R3

[crouchinggerbil]

Hello, would this (two board with bluetooth) work with 2020 software and new firmware. SI9241AEY already replaced, is it necessary to change something else? Like can filters? Now it works great with 2017R3

They work but they are really CDP and not the new CDP+ they will not read all cars, they are not capable of the newer protocols.

This is why we recommend single pcb instead because they are really CDP+ and can read all protocols.

Also, you will read nothing on that dual board with newest firmware on it.

[etzkaaa]

They work but they are really CDP and not the new CDP+ they will not read all cars, they are not capable of the newer protocols.

This is why we recommend single pcb instead because they are really CDP+ and can read all protocols.

Also, you will read nothing on that dual board with newest firmware on it.


What makes them so special (single board)? That they are able to read more protocols? Maybe a better cpu or another better quality components? What needs to be changed to make my two boards device work with the new firmware and 2020 software? Does replacing the cpu and other components not help?

[crouchinggerbil]

What makes them so special (single board)? That they are able to read more protocols? Maybe a better cpu or another better quality components? What needs to be changed to make my two boards device work with the new firmware and 2020 software? Does replacing the cpu and other components not help?

The single is almost 1:1 quality as the original tool.

No amount of replacing parts on double board is ever going to make it work 100%.

What do you expect when the tool is only €35?

You want to replace cpu and other parts, why?

Easier to just buy a good tool that works and have no problems later.

It would be great if it worked but it does not, that's just the way it is.

I can send you a link to a good supplier if you want, who we have had 0 problems so far with the boards.

We have tested many suppliers over the last 5 months and these are the best ones so far.

[Col19]

Hi dear friend Crouchinggerbi

Thank you for the useful information, I confirm that with the dual card vci my old vehicle had trouble reading it, with the single card (fw3002) no problem. Following the purchase of a single card I was fooled with the bluetooth module and the relays.

On the seller's image the relays had a power of 5V i received relays with 3V power, the bluetooth module was the high quality one with the STM32 board the one received was a cheap Beken3231 and the CAN filters were not everything simply not solder, 0 ohm resistors were placed, of course i add the CAN filters.

I wanted to order 5V relays but after reading your post I gave up even if for trucks it is important to use 5V relays according to Russian forums. Thank you and respect for sharing your experience, best regards.

[sympho]

Hello friend many boards come without this right here, do you know the part number?
https://prnt.sc/21oxy0c

[crouchinggerbil]

Hello friend many boards come without this right here, do you know the part number?
https://prnt.sc/21oxy0c

Look at first post again I made some changes.

[nfgrd]

[QUOTE = crouchinggerbil; 4243453] Olhe para a primeira postagem novamente, algumas mudanças. [/ CITAR]

I have this board, do I need to change the marked components?

[Salah Bismilah]

[QUOTE = crouchinggerbil; 4243453] Olhe para a primeira postagem novamente, algumas mudanças. [/ CITAR]

I have this board, do I need to change the marked components?
Your 2nd 3rd and 4th pic can't make them out....but I think they suppose to be 4 AND gate package.....1st pic suppose to be CAN filter.

[p38]

The single is almost 1:1 quality as the original tool.

No amount of replacing parts on double board is ever going to make it work 100%.

What do you expect when the tool is only €35?

You want to replace cpu and other parts, why?


Easier to just buy a good tool that works and have no problems later.

It would be great if it worked but it does not, that's just the way it is.

I can send you a link to a good supplier if you want, who we have had 0 problems so far with the boards.

We have tested many suppliers over the last 5 months and these are the best ones so far.

Hello, send me a link to a verified aliexpress seller.

[asdfx]

which seller does have a quality device without changing components

[crouchinggerbil]

which seller does have a quality device without changing components

This is the only vci we recommend for this and the next releases

https://obd2cartool.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37&products_id=123

[asdfx]

but i don't see any can filter?

[Tuga1234]

Goodnight,
I have 1 ds150 interface and I can't diagnose trucks with autocom.
I've had cdp+ since 2017 and probably the quality of the components can't be the best.
Can you tell me which components I should change and where I should buy them

[crouchinggerbil]

Goodnight,
I have 1 ds150 interface and I can't diagnose trucks with autocom.
I've had cdp+ since 2017 and probably the quality of the components can't be the best.
Can you tell me which components I should change and where I should buy them

Is it single or double pcb inside?

If it is double then you need to buy single pcb mentioned above.

If it is single then the required components are listed above.

You can get from mouser, farnell, rs-online or other component supplier near you.

[Salah Bismilah]

Just got new interface with 4.5v relays marked up as 5v.. apart from 1 which is a 3v relay 64ohms.....rest of the relays 140 ohms...why they done that?...buffoons...so make sure you check your interface...not sure the consequences using it with 3v relay; in 2 minds changing for another 4.5v relay.

[crouchinggerbil]

Just got new interface with 4.5v relays marked up as 5v.. apart from 1 which is a 3v relay 64ohms.....rest of the relays 140 ohms...why they done that?...buffoons...so make sure you check your interface...not sure the consequences using it with 3v relay; in 2 minds changing for another 4.5v relay.

Pure and simple laziness, it should not matter anyway as voltage is controlled before the relays

[Salah Bismilah]

If the circuit for 5v 1amp 140mW relay....then adding low volage relay operating at around 5v will stop working eventually. ....short term would probably work but eventually will give up as its under rated for the circuit...not got the schematic tried Google but no good...I guess what you saying its regulated before the relay coil...hard to find the relays in local store...I found a Fujitsu labeled relay which is equivalent..2FC relay

[Salah Bismilah]

Anyone know why the TJA1050 is there....not doing anything or going anywhere on the board...on the single board with 701 inductor coils..second 701 filter which has got a white smd component in between the 2 coils....tried belling/continuty around the board and nothing...CAN high and CAN low not connected..is this maybe something to do with Trucks and not connected....looks to me the 000 resistors Both CANs connected to the cap
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Other with 000 resistors instead of CAN 701...but middle pins connected with pin 8 connected to vire.
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[nitin78]

mine too, even via not connected on top pin

[crouchinggerbil]

Anyone know why the TJA1050 is there....not doing anything or going anywhere on the board...on the single board with 701 inductor coils..second 701 filter which has got a white smd component in between the 2 coils....tried belling/continuty around the board and nothing...CAN high and CAN low not connected..is this maybe something to do with Trucks and not connected....looks to me the 000 resistors Both CANs connected to the cap
869654
Other with 000 resistors instead of CAN 701...but middle pins connected with pin 8 connected to vire.
869655


mine too, even via not connected on top pin

Thats because the trace goes to other side of the board.

nitin78, you should replace can filters for sure, I also replaced other components to new genuine ones on that vci

[Salah Bismilah]

mine too, even via not connected on top pin

There is other difference on the board if you flip the board over. ....you will see 9241A bottom chip nothing connected...China version you get 2 version you get 4.5v relays with 701 inductor....apparently there best....then you get B version which is your version without 701 or 4.5v relays....BUT both version dont have the 1 of the CAN connected....and both version dont have 9241A bottom chip connected.......so basically working on 1 can and 1 9241A....as far I can see...no wonder some module dont seem to communicate...although connection to car OK.

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The white marks are where the bad clone are not connected.

[Salah Bismilah]

Thats because the trace goes to other side of the board.

nitin78, you should replace can filters for sure, I also replaced other components to new genuine ones on that vci

They dont go under...as far I checked unless someone can point out where they go..pins 6 and 7 CAN should go to 701 but they dont nothing.....I could take that chip out and it will still work same.

[nitin78]

Thats because the trace goes to other side of the board.

nitin78, you should replace can filters for sure, I also replaced other components to new genuine ones on that vci

i have replaced the can filter with some original tdk ones. not sure which other component to change but they "look" ok.

i can connect to my qashqai but not much options available like functions.

i wonder if the board just needs a few jumpers to make it work.

[nitin78]

There is other difference on the board if you flip the board over. ....you will see 9241A bottom chip nothing connected...China version you get 2 version you get 4.5v relays with 701 inductor....apparently there best....then you get B version which is your version without 701 or 4.5v relays....BUT both version dont have the 1 of the CAN connected....and both version dont have 9241A bottom chip connected.......so basically working on 1 can and 1 9241A....as far I can see...no wonder some module dont seem to communicate...although connection to car OK.
which 9241A is it?

[Salah Bismilah]

which 9241A is it?

Updated with picture left side bad clone right side good clone....

[crouchinggerbil]

Updated with picture left side bad clone right side good clone....

The brown pcb is good quality alright but it is not made any more. The ones from obd2cartool are best one we have tested ;)

[nitin78]

The brown pcb is good quality alright but it is not made any more. The ones from obd2cartool are best one we have tested ;)

thanks do you think it could be modifyed with jumpers or is there more missing elsewhere, might have to buy the one from obd2cartool .

another reviewer on aliexpress put a picture of then canbus ic removed.

looks like no connection to the pads.

[nitin78]

Updated with picture left side bad clone right side good clone....
thanks. any chance to get higher quality images. might give it a go to modify it.

[Salah Bismilah]

thanks. any chance to get higher quality images. might give it a go to modify it.

Only got png file not clear...when i upload it...i will pm you where i got it from later...its clear.
As you can see from your image of CAN taken off, its pads and track not connected...well done for getting that picture saveme time taking chip off..for your board i wont bother getting new board...get 2 can filters....and leave it...your bluetooth not the top quality but you can use cable.

[nitin78]

Only got png file not clear...when i upload it...i will pm you where i got it from later...its clear.
As you can see from your image of CAN taken off, its pads and track not connected...well done for getting that picture saveme time taking chip off..for your board i wont bother getting new board...get 2 can filters....and leave it...your bluetooth not the top quality but you can use cable.

ok thanks, seller refunded my money so i can get something new.

i already got can filters now. still has only 1 function available for Qashqai 2007, not helpful.

yes i will use cable as bluetooth is poor quality.

might have to get a thinkdiag or somthing.


"for your board i wont bother getting new board...get 2 can filters....and leave it"
if i do this would i miss error codes/functions on cars? or simply it will not connect?


just dont understand they put all components but just miss tracks! :(

[RatedRawrrr]

Hi Guys
Hope someone can advise, I've got a 150e Clone and had also purchased some epcos can filters, but when the board arrived it didnt have the expected 701 resistors, Im just wondering does anyone know what is on there in the L600 L601 spots and should i still replace them with the epcos? thanks
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[armi]

Hi!
There are 0 ohm resistors, I soldered there can filters from damaged audi clusters.

[jan zrok]

Hi, my first DS150E is home.
I checked by the first page and I think it is a good single board for Autocom/Delphi 2020.
After all, I will ask you for your inspection and whether it is appropriate to replace some parts with better quality ones.
And I would also like to know if it is possible and safe to install both Autocom and Delphi on one disk at the same time.
I would like to try out the Autocom and Delphi graphics look, which one I will like more while working with them.
Thank you very much.

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[simpaticoteppei]

Questo è l'unico vci che consigliamo per questa e le prossime versioni

https://obd2cartool.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37&products_id=123




Is this site really reliable?
I would like to know a lot too ... thanks

[crouchinggerbil]

Is this site really reliable?
I would like to know a lot too ... thanks

Yes, I order there all the time. No problems with these boards with 20 or 21 release ;)

[mati881]

Anyone know why the TJA1050 is there....not doing anything or going anywhere on the board...on the single board with 701 inductor coils..second 701 filter which has got a white smd component in between the 2 coils....tried belling/continuty around the board and nothing...CAN high and CAN low not connected..is this maybe something to do with Trucks and not connected....looks to me the 000 resistors Both CANs connected to the cap
869654
Other with 000 resistors instead of CAN 701...but middle pins connected with pin 8 connected to vire.
869655



i have the same problem, did you find a way to renew these paths?

[dr_x]

Hi,
Could you send me a link to a working (on vans) one board version of this tool that won’t need components changed?
Many thanks