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MYMN
4th October, 2021, 01:03 PM
Hello,
i have a beeper 1.4 hdi
After an attempt to program a key, the vehicle no longer starts, seeing the immobilizer on.
attached the dumps of the bsi Delphi 93c86 and, ecu edc16c34.


I opened the bsi dump with vvdi2 and tango, it seems correct? !!!


with Diagbox, no communication with the bsi, and in the ecu I have the default code nonexistent or erroneous.


is it normal that there is no communication with the bsi?


can someone make me a virgin on the ecu? and see if the dumps are ok.

its fiat system.
ecu edc16c34 0281015783

Antonio266
4th October, 2021, 01:35 PM
You don't have to diagnostic it by Lexia, on Bipper only engine system is PSA, BSI system is Fiat.
With Diagnostic you have to enter by Fiat Fiorino or Qubo, and read DTCs.

MYMN
4th October, 2021, 02:34 PM
DTC IN ECU P1200

DTC IN BSI : B10AA telecoding fault

Antonio266
4th October, 2021, 03:04 PM
DTC IN ECU P1200

DTC IN BSI : B10AA telecoding fault
Synchro between ECU and BSI is OK, do you have odometer blinking in dash?

MYMN
4th October, 2021, 04:00 PM
no, everything is normal

rafal
4th October, 2021, 04:07 PM
check proxy configuration

MYMN
4th October, 2021, 04:48 PM
with diag tool, it does not find any programmed key.

i want to write new dumps.
Can someone synchronize these two dumps for me.

Antonio266
4th October, 2021, 05:01 PM
What tool do you use to read/write 93C86 in BSI?

MYMN
4th October, 2021, 05:03 PM
vvdi prog...

MYMN
4th October, 2021, 09:03 PM
for me .. the problem is 100/100 of the bsi dump, for the following reasons:
-the vehicle has stopped following an attempt to program key .

- by the diagnostic tools ... no key programmed.

even if tango key maker recognizes the dump, that does not mean that the dump is good.
Please,someone synchronize dump, or a virgin on the Ecu

Antonio266
4th October, 2021, 11:47 PM
Here your files edited, Pass in PM.

I've used the new BSI file you posted and edited VIN for your car.
Then synchronized your original ECU's eeprom with the new BSI.
Write both new files to your ECU and BSI, then program a new key to the car, and in the end if you have blinking odometer make a Proxy Alignment.

Report here how it goes, regards.

MYMN
4th October, 2021, 11:55 PM
Thank you so much,
tomorrow, I will inform you of the result:

Bllinda
5th October, 2021, 08:45 AM
What is the ID of the original key? 10 59 2A xx. ....
The ECU can leave the data original.

Repaired original damp. Pin code, keys are old.



Thank you so much,
tomorrow, I will inform you of the result:

P.S.

Maybe there is one who can help here? Thank you

https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/922374-4007-2-2-HDi-4x4-115-kW-4HN-EDC-16-CP39-damos?p=4206160&viewfull=1#post4206160

MYMN
5th October, 2021, 12:43 PM
No way to start this vehicle with this bcm.
Always unrecognized dump, 0 key programmed.
tested 6 dumps 93C86.


Conclusion: Bsi damaged, maybe the Nec dump is corrupted.
I will order another BCM or complete kit (ecu + bsi).

Antonio266
5th October, 2021, 12:50 PM
If every dump you load in BSI it says 0 Keys then yes BSI is damaged, probably MCU..
If you have IO Terminal it can reads also NEC in this bsi..

Buy only BCM (or BCM + key) and i will help you, there's no need to buy full kit

MYMN
7th October, 2021, 10:43 PM
solved, the customer could not find a bcm, so he bought a complete kit.
Thanks for the people who helped, especially Antonio226.
Be careful with OBDSTAR X300 DP plus, it can cause you serious problems.

Antonio266
7th October, 2021, 11:35 PM
Honestly i've never had problems with Obdstar for Fiat cars..
I always use genuine AVDI for Fiat/Alfa/Lanci- because is the best choice for them, my plan B is Autel IM608 and only sometimes i use Obdstar, but for example last month even AVDI and Autel couldn't program a key to Fiat Doblo 2019, then i connected x300DP and programmed new key in 2 minutes..
If you work a lot with FCA vehicle, then AVDI is the best