help with opel cim replacement

[lbhire91]

Hello!
I'm a victim of very strage situation.
Bassicaly I have replaced my CIM module with proper PIN extracted, did it as usually by resetting the module providing its own pin no, after programming the mechanical key number and than moving to programming the immobiliser function, choosing "CIM MODULE REPLACED" car won't take original pin from cim either ecu pin. Now none of car passes doesn't work. What should I do now?

[900ss]

cim I assume shows "immob function not programmed" error ?

If not it is not reset

Has it got a security wait time activated ?

[lbhire91]

cim I assume shows "immob function not programmed" error ?

If not it is not reset

Has it got a security wait time activated ?
Yes it does.
It had 40 minutes so i put charger on and left ignition on for around hour, tried again no luck.
I've used snap on scaner and maxi sys pro on as my op com broke.

[900ss]

Does it show as wait time now cleared then, if not you may have to try with another opcom/tech2 ?

[Ninjor s]

Check security wait time,put ignition on with door open for certain time.

[lbhire91]

Check security wait time,put ignition on with door open for certain time.
I hadthe security waiting time set for 40 mins, left the car with the ignition on for over the hour but clock doesn't run. Looked into the mesuring blocks and shows 120 mins now. It drives me nuts now :viking:
Is it any solution to reset the counter?

[drz]

Why don't you manually write good dump in cim(don't know what is inside, eeprom or motorola) and then repeat all procedure. If you get the same, then you're doing something wrong.

[Ninjor s]

Does your cim have 95160 eeprom?

[lbhire91]

Does your cim have 95160 eeprom?
93LC76
I've replaced the cim unit as my old programmer messed my up.
Any recomendations for new programmer btw?

[Ninjor s]

Post eeprom here,will try magic.

[900ss]

93LC76
I've replaced the cim unit as my old programmer messed my up.
Any recomendations for new programmer btw?

Have you got the pin for the new cim or is it already reset, if so opcom will be the easiest to program it in

[lbhire91]

Have you got the pin for the new cim or is it already reset, if so opcom will be the easiest to program it in
already reset

[900ss]

already reset
Opcom then.
Don't enter any pin other then the one that belongs to the car you are fitting it to
If its already reset with no wait time & to check first it will show "immob function not programmed" error
If it does enter your cars pin only. Should then be good to go & program in

[lbhire91]

I have written the eeprom to CIM again, to get rid of the wait time. I've reset and programmed new cim. I've reset all of the immo linked modules and proggramed the modules. Car started. Than after switching it back off and back on won't start. Car with spanner blinking on the dash. I red the fault codes, see the report below:
DIAGNOSTIC REPORT:
OP-COM 100219a






**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: CIM
Source Address: 0x00000245
Identifier: 0x000F
VIN: W0L0ZCF3541099223
Part Number:13165349
Software version number: 12244872_
System description: DELPH0400
Hardware key number: O000015407
Alpha code:
Manufacturing date: 040225
Code Index and version: 008 02


Number of stored fault codes: 2


B3057 - Security Code Not Programmed
(00) - Present


B2810 - Steering Wheel Remote Circuit Open or High Voltage
(04) - Present


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: ECM
Source Address: 0x000007E0
Identifier: 0x0731
System name: Z19DT
VIN: W0L0ZCF3541099223
Hardware number:81011449
Part Number:55193967
Software version number: VNPMS090_S
Hardware manufacturer number: 0281011915
System description: 1037394074P319_O83
System description: BOSCH0100
Type approval number: B04016
Hardware key number: O100037070
Programming Date: 20101001
System description: 0x000050A0
Alpha code: YY
Software version: O83JTD74
ECU variant coding: 0x0000F9C0


Number of stored fault codes: 2


P0425 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor High Voltage (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
(05) - Present


P1610 - Immobiliser Function not Programmed
(00) - Present


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: ABS/TC/ESP
Source Address: 0x00000243
Identifier: 0x0301
System name: ESP EBC430
Hardware number:12801327
Part Number:13136694
Software version number: 00C3552E
System description: TRW 0300
Hardware key number:
Alpha code: EZ


Number of stored fault codes: 1


U2142 - CAN-Bus No Communication with YRS (Yaw Rate Sensor)
(00) - Not present


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: EHPS
Source Address: 0x00000244
Identifier: 0x0103
System name: EHPS GEN3 TRW
Hardware number:24444336
Part Number:0
Software version number: V12_
System description: TRW 0300
Alpha code:
ECU variant coding: 0x00000105


No fault codes stored.


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: IPC
Source Address: 0x00000255
Identifier: 0x0202
VIN: W0L0ZCF3541099223
Part Number:13165966
Software version number: 8.39 16/03
System description: VDO 0400
Hardware key number: 0000000000
Alpha code: MP
Manufacturing date: 040407
Code Index and version: 003 01


No fault codes stored.


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: AIRBAG SDM
Source Address: 0x00000257
Identifier: 0x0101
VIN: W0L0ZCF3541099223
Part Number:13170589
Software version number: 0C0C3303
Alpha code: DX


Number of stored fault codes: 2


B0012 - Driver Airbag Squib Circuit (Stage1) High Resistance
(0D) - Present


B0013 - Driver Airbag Squib Circuit (Stage 2) High Resistance
(0D) - Present


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: BCM
Source Address: 0x00000252
Identifier: 0x0109
VIN: W0L0ZCF3541099223
Part Number:13168781
Software version number: C11C87 36034703
System description: TEMIC04
Hardware key number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
System description: 0x20202020202020303030363231373934
Alpha code: EG
Manufacturing date: 000400030204
Code Index and version:


Number of stored fault codes: 1


B0173 - Outside Temperature Sensor Circuit Open or High Voltage
(05) - Present


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: REC
Source Address: 0x00000254
Identifier: 0x0102
VIN: W0L0ZCF3541099223
System name: REC
Part Number:13170890
Software version number: 000007D1
System description: LEAR 0400
Hardware key number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
Alpha code: CY


Number of stored fault codes: 7


B1001 - Security Code Not Programmed
(44) - Not present


B3445 - Rear Left Brake Light Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B3882 - Rear Right Tail Light Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B2535 - Rear Fog Light Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B3880 - Rear Right Reverse Light Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B2545 - Rear Left Reverse Light Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B0283 - Rear Window Heater Low Voltage or Circuit Open
(06) - Present


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: UEC
Source Address: 0x00000253
Identifier: 0x0102
VIN: W0L0ZCF3541099223
System name: UEC
Part Number:13170899
Software version number: 000007D0
System description: LEAR 0400
Alpha code: CR


Number of stored fault codes: 8


B2699 - Right Low Beam Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B2575 - Left Low Beam Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B0525 - Front Right Turn Indicator Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B0530 - Front Left Turn Indicator Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B3867 - Front Right Parking Lamp Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B2585 - Front Left Parking Lamp Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B2698 - Front Right Fog Light Circuit Open
(04) - Present


B2525 - Front Left Fog Light Circuit Open
(04) - Present


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: DDM
Source Address: 0x00000259
Identifier: 0x0301
VIN: W0L0ZCF3541099223
Part Number:13170178
Software version number: OP1D 190000
System description: SIEM 0401
Hardware key number: XXXXXXXXXX
Alpha code: EL
Manufacturing date: 723040
Code Index and version:


No fault codes stored.


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: PDM
Source Address: 0x00000258
Identifier: 0x0301
VIN: W0L0ZCF3541099223
Part Number:13170177
Software version number: OP1D 190000
System description: SIEM 0401
Hardware key number: XXXXXXXXXX
Alpha code: EN
Manufacturing date: 823040
Code Index and version:


No fault codes stored.


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: DIS
Source Address: 0x00000246
Identifier: 0x0306
Hardware number:13190895
Part Number:93182818
Software version number: 08.08.17.00
System description: VDO 0400
Alpha code:
Code Index and version: 005 02


Number of stored fault codes: 1


U2122 - CAN-Bus no Communication with Radio
(00) - Present


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************


**********************ECU ID STARTS**********************
Source Address: ECC
Source Address: 0x00000248
Identifier: 0x0105
System name: ECC 3200
Hardware number:13128712
Part Number:13138196
Software version number: C406 0200300
Alpha code:
Code Index and version: 002 05


No fault codes stored.


**********************ECU ID ENDS**********************



Any suggestions???

[900ss]

Did you clear all the old fault codes before starting the car, as they look historic ?

Only time I have had a immo light flash after reprog was when the battery was half flat
Would not crank fully, then immob will cut in and all old fault codes reappear and ecu need reprogramming again
(this was with ecu mind but guess could be the same as your cim)

[drz]

Looking at this scan and errors it looks like you did something very wrong with the cim replacement procedure. I can't explain how the car started.

[lbhire91]

Battery was fully charged. It stores the faults for pin not programmed, or enviroment. It's defo something wrong.

[lbhire91]

What could I do wrong?

[900ss]

I would maybe try a diffo tool or version to program with ?
If you program cim then clear "all" old codes so no faults shown before trying to start
Turn off and on but dont start. What happens then ? Do they all stay cleared and work ?

[Ninjor s]

When you programming immobilizer function such as ecm or cim, remember ipc,rec nd uhec must be reset and reprogram back.

[lbhire91]

did it that way:
1. reset cim with old pin, erased keys, programmed new cim with car pin, programmed mechanical key number, programmed old key transponder
2. cleared all faults
3. reset and programed rec, uec, ipc, ddm
4. cleared faults
still having issue with "security code not programmed" and wrong enviroment
Tried op com and snap on scanner. Both same results

[Ninjor s]

Reprogram again.
Reset cim wait switch off ignition wait 30 seconds, program back cim after successful programmed ignition off 30, reset ipc key off wait 30, program back back,key off 30sec,on other module do the same procedure.

[drz]

Cim is not programmed well (you can see it fo scan you posted), so any further reset/programming not make sense.

[Ninjor s]

Reprogram again.
Reset cim wait switch off ignition wait 30 seconds, program back cim after successful programmed ignition off 30, reset ipc key off wait 30, program back back,key off 30sec,on other module do the same procedure.

Mate do this procedure,leave negative energy.

[lbhire91]

Tried Your method but on the end I've reset the ecu and did ecu replacement in cim, starts every time! Thank you very much indeed! Happy the car is back running!

[rafal]

Tried Your method but on the end I've reset the ecu and did ecu replacement in cim, starts every time! Thank you very much indeed! Happy the car is back running!

That's great...is never late to learn

[lbhire91]

Unfortunately, I got back to the car and won't start today. Back to the point where it were yesterday. All modules clear, fault in ECU P1610 (00)- Immobiliser function not programmed, in CIM B2810 (00) Security Code not programmed.
Any other Ideas?

[lbhire91]

For the interested ones solved!
It needed ecu and cim instalation in immo programming.
Every day is a lesson.

[drz]

For cim replacing there is no need to do anything with ecu, but you didn't know and did ecu reset...

[lbhire91]

red somewhere that is needed.

[kiszka]

did it that way:
1. reset cim with old pin, erased keys, programmed new cim with car pin, programmed mechanical key number, programmed old key transponder
2. cleared all faults
3. reset and programed rec, uec, ipc, ddm
4. cleared faults
still having issue with "security code not programmed" and wrong enviroment
Tried op com and snap on scanner. Both same results

you are able to arrange an online connection in the car and opcom english or poland
through the teawiewer program
will try to find where you go wrong