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sogaro
21st February, 2010, 02:02 PM
I have an ML320, W163 Mercedes with all keys lost.......how can i read the chip 0D47J in the AAM without desoldering it, i have Xprog-T, does the chinese mb programmer work or not?

gokey
21st February, 2010, 02:16 PM
carefully reading the d47j
they are secured
must desolder

milanista
21st February, 2010, 04:44 PM
I have an ML320, W163 Mercedes with all keys lost.......how can i read the chip 0D47J in the AAM without desoldering it, i have Xprog-T, does the chinese mb programmer work or not?

...........

motortech
21st February, 2010, 05:37 PM
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obdmaster
21st February, 2010, 09:45 PM
You will be able to make a transponder for this vehicle using gambit m8 i think!!!!


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Bigovic
21st February, 2010, 11:20 PM
I have an ML320, W163 Mercedes with all keys lost.......how can i read the chip 0D47J in the AAM without desoldering it, i have Xprog-T, does the chinese mb programmer work or not?

DEAR,

One solution for you yoo can make New Key and used key programming in your Vehicle!

if you have lost alle Keys you must removed the EIS and read with a simple Motorola Programmer the 2 HC IC you see 2 BIG IC.

Save the Original Data from the HC 2 BIG CHips

than use a used Key read with NEC programmer

Sav the File from NEC programmer

than Start the Software from the NEC Programmer MB and synchronise the Data (autoprocess)

Finaly: put the 2 HC Chips in Motorola, put the NEC File in the Key that is

have Enjoy

Onboard solution is very riskfull you can make with i thnisk R205 or R200 (is more better for ODometer but not for EIS)

If you have more Question let me know !

We Experience with STar Diagnosis and Modules more than 8 Years ;-) :wink:

sogaro
22nd February, 2010, 06:26 AM
@Bigovic, you are not right with your solution, W163 does not use EIS but EZS and its got just i Chip , thats the AAM or DAS.

Abritus72 solution is the safest but i dont have it, guess i will have to desolder and solder back then. i have Abritus72 OBD2 programmer but no Pre-coded W163 chip (pcf7935AS) otherwise i would have fixed keys.
Anyone know how to make Precoded PCF chips

mercis
22nd February, 2010, 06:35 AM
abritus cost over 600 eu,i have bougt this for w163,
Mercedes-Benz KEY PROGRAMMMER (http://www.autokmfactory.com/Car_Key_Programmer/08812231940.html)
cost 100 usd and work

sogaro
22nd February, 2010, 07:01 AM
@Bigovic, you are not right with your solution, W163 does not use EIS but EZS and its got just i Chip , thats the AAM or DAS.

Abritus72 solution is the safest but i dont have it, guess i will have to desolder and solder back then. i have Abritus72 OBD2 programmer but no Pre-coded W163 chip (pcf7935AS) otherwise i would have fixed keys.
Anyone know how to make Precoded PCF chips

sogaro
22nd February, 2010, 07:51 AM
abritus cost over 600 eu,i have bougt this for w163,
Mercedes-Benz KEY PROGRAMMMER (http://www.autokmfactory.com/Car_Key_Programmer/08812231940.html)
cost 100 usd and work

This exactly what i have too, but the 2 times i used it , it tells me "That EEprom with taken mask
has used keys N 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8" so am skeptical maybe not good. what do you think? If i have this situation what can i do, i know it can be edited by removing some keys so others can be added.

Have you used yours and it worked?

milanista
22nd February, 2010, 07:51 AM
@Bigovic, you are not right with your solution, W163 does not use EIS but EZS and its got just i Chip , thats the AAM or DAS.

Abritus72 solution is the safest but i dont have it, guess i will have to desolder and solder back then. i have Abritus72 OBD2 programmer but no Pre-coded W163 chip (pcf7935AS) otherwise i would have fixed keys.
Anyone know how to make Precoded PCF chips

post dump here

sogaro
22nd February, 2010, 11:24 AM
abritus cost over 600 eu,i have bougt this for w163,
Mercedes-Benz KEY PROGRAMMMER (http://www.autokmfactory.com/Car_Key_Programmer/08812231940.html)
cost 100 usd and work

The PCF7935AS i will use with the MB key programmer, must it be Pre-coded or just blank?

simon77
22nd February, 2010, 11:56 AM
when i use carprog it asks me for blank 7935 then it codes the it to the car.

sogaro
22nd February, 2010, 12:00 PM
carprog is too expensive

sogaro
22nd February, 2010, 02:49 PM
i have read the EEProm and this is it

andresfn18
22nd February, 2010, 09:27 PM
YOU MOST READ THE AAM AND GENERATE TRANSPONDER, COULD BE WITH ADVI MERCEDES AND TANGO PROGRAMMER OR ONLY WITH CARPROG AND MERCEDES SOFTWARE!!!

YOU USE IN BOTH ONLY A PCF7935 IN BLANK!!!

drivergabriel
22nd February, 2010, 10:44 PM
:wink:

your car is cdi?

Dajan2009
23rd February, 2010, 09:28 AM
No, CDI is 270, not 320. :)

sogaro
23rd February, 2010, 10:22 AM
YOU MOST READ THE AAM AND GENERATE TRANSPONDER, COULD BE WITH ADVI MERCEDES AND TANGO PROGRAMMER OR ONLY WITH CARPROG AND MERCEDES SOFTWARE!!!

YOU USE IN BOTH ONLY A PCF7935 IN BLANK!!!

The mercedes software i have tells me all keys are used but i load into Gambit and it tells me otherwise, at least with Gambit i have 3 extra keys to make, what do you think? My Gambit is inside AK400.

andresfn18
23rd February, 2010, 04:31 PM
The mercedes software i have tells me all keys are used but i load into Gambit and it tells me otherwise, at least with Gambit i have 3 extra keys to make, what do you think? My Gambit is inside AK400.

maybe all your keys are used but you can program either!!!

just a tip, put a new battery in the truck!!!

andresfn18
23rd February, 2010, 07:36 PM
SEE THIS!!!
IS YOUR FILE IN TANGO PROGRAMMER, 3 KEYS USED AND 5 NOT USED!!!

sogaro
24th February, 2010, 05:12 AM
SEE THIS!!!
IS YOUR FILE IN TANGO PROGRAMMER, 3 KEYS USED AND 5 NOT USED!!!
Something is definitely not right, MB programmer says all used, Tango says just 3 and Gambit says 5 used. So which is right? Meanwhile my AK400 gives me error but a friend wrote the chip on key 5 unfortunately he is miles away so i can not test

andresfn18
24th February, 2010, 04:41 PM
SORRY I MADE I MISTAKE!!! THIS IS YOUR DUMP!!!
TANGO PROGRAMMER AND GAMBIT SHOW THE SAME KEYS USED AND NOT USED!!!

simon77
24th February, 2010, 08:14 PM
shouldnt matter if keys are used as you are making key from dump.

clauberty
20th August, 2010, 12:13 PM
hello

in attachment is the error that give me ak 400 when want to program the new key

is a problem if i use pcf 7935AS?

is a problem that all the keys are used ?

how to solve this error ?

the car have only 1 key (nr2) and become disabled for some reason

untitled1 = is what i read from the pcf 7935AS

milanista
20th August, 2010, 01:34 PM
First - I think you are not trying to write the key with AK400, but with Gambit. I have no idea what "Error 2" means.

I think you can use pcf 7935AS, but I amnot 100% sure. Maybe someone else can confirm this.

It is not a problem that all keys are used. By the way - don't trust too much what Gambit is showing - don't you have Star Diagnosis or AVDI to check the Actual Values of the AAM? This is a much safer way to know how many keys and which ones exactly are used.

I don't know how to solve this error you have, but I recommend to you to use one of the tools that can program the key by OBDII. In this way even if you make a mistake you wouldn't have to desolder the AAM or DAS module.



hello

in attachment is the error that give me ak 400 when want to program the new key

is a problem if i use pcf 7935AS?

is a problem that all the keys are used ?

how to solve this error ?

the car have only 1 key (nr2) and become disabled for some reason

untitled1 = is what i read from the pcf 7935AS

clauberty
21st August, 2010, 09:01 AM
thank you

the gambit is in AK400

clauberty
21st August, 2010, 10:09 PM
is any one managed to make a key for ML with AAM ECU with AK 400 ?

if ye please share with me :egg:

thank you

sogaro
22nd August, 2010, 05:17 AM
Let me try and help by telling you that you can not make a key from the file you've got here. All keys are used and you can only use Abritus72 obdii ML key maker to make any key using this file, am sure you don't have this tool. If you have STAR or Launch then there is a way out.
1. Read and post the dump of the ECU, thats chip labeled 4E28B so i can virgin it for you

2. I will give you files with ,5,6,7keys you can write any to AAM

3. Make your key with your gambit and then

4. Do coding using STAR or Launch X431

Meanwhile load any of this dump into your AK400 gambit to be sure its not a gambit problem as gambit works like charm, i use it well

clauberty
26th August, 2010, 10:33 AM
whee is that ecu located that have chip labeled 4E28B?

it give the same error with the files from you


The PCF 7935AS is ok for this job or i need other type ?

i have das

sogaro
26th August, 2010, 07:03 PM
If it gives error withthe files i sent to you , then something is wrong with your AK400. the files are good and safe to use. You may need to invest in Gambit clone which is just a few dollars (60-70usd) to upload and write any of the files i sent you, the 4E28B IS IN YOUR ECU, CHECK IT IN YOUR AK400 FILE PIX.

clauberty
16th September, 2010, 10:44 AM
hello

finely the gambit arrived

the engine ecu picture is attached

is not have 4e28b but it have 29f800

should i read that memory ?

sogaro
16th September, 2010, 11:32 AM
Yes , go ahead and read and post dump for 24co2 , should be at the back side

clauberty
16th September, 2010, 06:50 PM
unbelievable :musicus: this on is empty ?

sogaro
16th September, 2010, 08:10 PM
Strange definitely. you need a virgin dump , post your ECU details maybe someone can help

clauberty
16th September, 2010, 10:28 PM
yes very strange but what is more that the car start but just 5 or 7 times after no way

and with das key authorization appears that the actual key is nr x (forgot the nr) and key is disabled

if i let the car to stay another 3 to 5 day the car start again but not shore maybe start maybe not

clauberty
17th September, 2010, 09:38 AM
hello me again :)

i check the keys with DAS

kes are 1 -> 8

1 not programed

2 programed and is the actual key

3 programed

4 programed

from 5 -> 8 not programed

i have read the AAM CPU

now in gambit if i load key for AAM say that all the keys are used

if i load the key for EAM say tat 3, 5, 6 7 not used

please point me what ECU do i have to read to make a key

after that what i have to do to enable the key

i have DAS
thank you

sogaro
17th September, 2010, 01:37 PM
In this car, there are no keys in the AAM, the keys are stored in the EAM alone. To program key you need to use the dumps of the EAM not AAM. Once your key is programmed , the red light in the middle dash should flash when you insert and/or remove the key from the ignition lock, tht way you know your key is programmed. If car does not start , then we know we are left with ECU to fix.

clauberty
18th September, 2010, 12:55 PM
do i write an existing key or an unused one

sogaro
18th September, 2010, 02:06 PM
Unused definitely

clauberty
18th September, 2010, 05:34 PM
ok

but with the key that i write on the dash appears start error

problem is that i check with das the FBM ecu and the nr of the key is not recognized --- is displayed

when i put the old pcf key nr 2 is displayed

but key is blocked

in gambit the used keys are displayed wrong

i write key nr 6

what to do

do i ned to enable the key nr 6 in the dump ?

ubeliveble i made keys for bmw i think 50 till now but was not so hard like this one :egg:

sogaro
18th September, 2010, 08:11 PM
You need to realise also that the chip you need read is that in the FBM in the EAM and not that on the EAM board to get key dump

clauberty
18th September, 2010, 10:25 PM
ok next problem

the transponder is bloked

with das now key is identified Key Nr 6

start authorization is OK
but transponder is blocked

now why on earth is this :musicus:

how do i unlock the transponder in FBM dump or it is possible with DAS ?:willy:

clauberty
19th September, 2010, 03:27 PM
please give me a hint

is there a way to enable the keys from FBM module

why they become blocked

the same problem is with the key nr 2 has all data ok

recognized, authorization to start but is disabled

now with key nr 6 is the same problem

please :egg:

clauberty
24th September, 2010, 09:10 AM
how do i enable or unlock the keys in FBM dump

the same story with the key nr 2 that is factory

key nr 6 made with gambit

i have access do DAS but when i made the screen-shot was on other car

please is there a software like ews editor for bmw

or put new dumps and make a new key

where i need new dumps in FBM EAM AAM and engine ecu ?

refresh of the problem

car not crank, start error not displayed

thank you

addgsm
24th September, 2010, 03:42 PM
if eam chip is damage and i erase d69j chip in w210 or w202 and programme eam data in it will it work?
br

sogaro
27th September, 2010, 05:47 AM
@ADDGSM, If the EAM you use is from donor car you will need to know the VIN of donor car to use it

sogaro
27th September, 2010, 05:50 AM
There is no record of your Transponder being blocked, it says its not blocked. The red light in the middle panel beside the car tape, does it flash when you insert or remove key from ignition lock? Lets resolve this issue this week.

addgsm
27th September, 2010, 03:41 PM
@ADDGSM, If the EAM you use is from donor car you will need to know the VIN of donor car to use it
yes but i just want to know if d69j mcu mostly on w210 eis can be use to replace g47v mcu in aam or eam incase aam mcu is damage?
i know it has to be coded with star but want to know if its compatible
i will erase data in d69j mcu before writing aam data in it
br

sogaro
27th September, 2010, 07:03 PM
No sir, that would be a miracle

hauwkee
9th October, 2012, 07:46 AM
No sir, that would be a miracle

Still no good ending for this story

sogaro
9th October, 2012, 08:49 AM
What do you mean?


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ibratex
7th October, 2016, 04:39 PM
I solved my problem with gambit

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