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kapadokya
11th June, 2022, 09:42 PM
Hello
I want to change part of my kess 5.017,
I saw on a youtube comment Murata CSTCC8M00G53-R0 when he put this piece kess it work better than before
can someone help me?
thank you in advance

al70
11th June, 2022, 09:51 PM
are you having problems with your kess ?

kapadokya
11th June, 2022, 10:07 PM
On the internet he says that if we change this piece it works without bug

al70
11th June, 2022, 10:17 PM
have you tried to read a car ?

kapadokya
11th June, 2022, 10:27 PM
Infact I just want help to replace tutorial :) All the person who is changing he tells me that on BMW etc after this piece it works very well!
and application of kess works better after this change

al70
12th June, 2022, 07:31 AM
I've had my kess clone for , oh I'm not sure, around 4 years now, and I've never hand to open it, it's hit and miss with clones, I've been lucky with mine, and I've done all makes and models without a problem, only once I bricked a vw touran with a free file that I got off a forum, the key is to find a good file service that you can trust, I'm not in any way running down guys who supply files for free, but that one f#$k up turned me off getting free files, there are good tuners here that will supply you proper files, ask about, someone will help you, best of luck.

kapadokya
12th June, 2022, 09:57 AM
893444is it here, I have with blue?

NutoriusBME
12th June, 2022, 05:45 PM
893444is it here, I have with blue?







The processor needs a signal of 8MHZ + up to 0.10%. The problem is that Ceramic deviation is usually 0.5% ( 5000 PPD ) where as a Quartz Crystal is usually 0.005% ( 50 PPD). Remove the Ceramic, and replace it with a 8mhz quartz such as your common 2 leg items you see, centre pad unused, orientation not important, hand solder in place, and without reworking any other single component you have made you knock off Kess 100% better than it ever was :)


here is your solution !!!!8MHz Crystal ±30ppm HC-49 or SMD

proel
12th June, 2022, 10:14 PM
The processor needs a signal of 8MHZ + up to 0.10%. The problem is that Ceramic deviation is usually 0.5% ( 5000 PPD ) where as a Quartz Crystal is usually 0.005% ( 50 PPD). Remove the Ceramic, and replace it with a 8mhz quartz such as your common 2 leg items you see, centre pad unused, orientation not important, hand solder in place, and without reworking any other single component you have made you knock off Kess 100% better than it ever was :)


here is your solution !!!!8MHz Crystal ±30ppm HC-49 or SMD

Not true. Must "touch central pad" with proper components if you replace with 2 pin quartz version for good working replacement ... 3pin ceramic resonator is not same as 2 pin crystal quartz!

NutoriusBME
13th June, 2022, 07:16 AM
Not true. Must "touch central pad" with proper components if you replace with 2 pin quartz version for good working replacement ... 3pin ceramic resonator is not same as 2 pin crystal quartz!

O.k if you say so !! have you tried so you tell us from experience ??

kapadokya
13th June, 2022, 09:14 AM
The processor needs a signal of 8MHZ + up to 0.10%. The problem is that Ceramic deviation is usually 0.5% ( 5000 PPD ) where as a Quartz Crystal is usually 0.005% ( 50 PPD). Remove the Ceramic, and replace it with a 8mhz quartz such as your common 2 leg items you see, centre pad unused, orientation not important, hand solder in place, and without reworking any other single component you have made you knock off Kess 100% better than it ever was :)


here is your solution !!!!8MHz Crystal ±30ppm HC-49 or SMD

hello did you do this? is there a possibility to see a photo? thank you in advance http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/angel.gif

proel
13th June, 2022, 05:13 PM
O.k if you say so !! have you tried so you tell us from experience ??

Shure mate. except that I always make quartz case connection to ground, this further improves stability.

kapadokya
13th June, 2022, 07:35 PM
can you give me a site with the link thank you in advance to buy the exact piece!
its okey ? https://befr.rs-online.com/web/p/crystal-units/6719242

(https://befr.rs-online.com/web/p/crystal-units/6719242)

Frequency Tolerance
±30ppm


Frequency Stability
±50ppm


Series Resistance
60Ω


Maximum Operating Temperature
85°C


Minimum Operating Temperature
-40°C


??
(https://befr.rs-online.com/web/p/crystal-units/6719242)

NutoriusBME
13th June, 2022, 09:38 PM
možete li mi dati sajt sa linkom hvala unapred da kupim tačan komad!
u redu je? https://befr.rs-online.com/web/p/crystal-units/6719242

(https://befr.rs-online.com/web/p/crystal-units/6719242)

Tolerancija frekvencije
±30ppm


Stabilnost frekvencije
±50ppm


Series Resistance
60Ω


Maksimalna radna temperatura
85°C


Minimalna radna temperatura
-40°C


??
(https://befr.rs-online.com/web/p/crystal-units/6719242)



It is that component !! Now you belive everything i worte why ??

kapadokya
13th June, 2022, 11:07 PM
It is that component !! Now you belive everything i worte why ??

HELLO I can not buy on the site I found on the site is this part good?
https://www.mouser.fr/ProductDetail/449-LFXTAL070598BULK

morgano
14th June, 2022, 12:40 PM
Quarzt need decoupling capacitors, where resonator has them embedded, so direct replacement is not a good idea. IMO

Rider667
14th June, 2022, 01:20 PM
i rework my kess clone based on this picture that can be found on internet and its work good...

kapadokya
21st June, 2022, 09:29 PM
895456I changed with hc49 8mhz crystal it works for now