T300 or SBB key programmer

[kevfield]

Wanting to buy a key programmer can anyone tell me what they thinks better out of the 2 i would be buying a clone of them .

Thanks kev

[xmf70528]

Wanting to buy a key programmer can anyone tell me what they thinks better out of the 2 i would be buying a clone of them .

Thanks kev


sbb is better than T300

[AUS-MAN]

No comparison T300. Will cover MANY more models. Both are cheap why not buy them both?

[jokersat]

SBB 2009 is The King off Programming

[z786]

does SBB cover all makes the mvp does?
how is it better

[z786]

sorry, jus bumping the thread, im kinda stuk i want user opinion on both machines

[Andywill]

Ive heard the SBB clone needs tokens, and UK companys will not support the import tool? Does this need tokens? Does it time out?

[kevfield]

Hmmm thanks for all your views still stuck lol SBB does look better but its not been out that long as a clone where the T300 has. Will cover many more models you say, and toens for the SBB thats not sounding to good to me.

Thanks kev

[z786]

@Jokersat

can we have a detailed user opinion on SBB?

[Fallen]

I hear the SBB is pretty good on euro cars but not much else.

[m3m5]

i've got T300 clone. works fine. the problem that is clone and new models can?t do it. or you have to update, or buy new model. Another problem is pin number. too many brades works with pin. Ford, vag, psa etc read few pin numbers, and in vag group for example do 3-4 diferents possibilities. I'm not very happy.

Silca offer me sbb, but original is expensive. My next buy will be zed bull. You can do a lot of things.

[allstar]

You can buy MVP is good tool i think cover more car then t300 and the price is almost the same ( for the clone ).
Just buy one with newest software.

[Andywill]

The MVP in the UK needs tokens per key coding operation, does the clone have the same tokens to make it work?

[u.s]

token system has been cracked on the clones.

[troubled]

token system has been cracked on the clones.
i have a clone mpv works ok on most cars does the same as uk version but does not work on fords or rovers

[Andywill]

TROUBLED - i thought no tool in the after market will do fords because of the in/out codes required. How is the mvp clone on renaults, they are the biggest pain i have.

[seed212]

both it is good

[mikaelch]

Hy. I have some money to but a chinese copy of SBB or MVP or other device witch can help me programming the transponder keys. I already have a RW4 to program T5 transponders. What tool is more useful for ID40(Opel in general), ID48 (VAG-Group in general).? Thks.

[castortroy]

The SBB is a clone of the TKO (Transponder Key Originater) by Silca and Kabba Ilco. It should be much more user freindly because you dont have to look at charts for the type of ecu. you look up the makes and models of the car and it walks you through it. The T300 is a clone of the T-Code made by Advanced Diagnostics. The word is that Advance Diagnostics is ahead in the technology race with Silca and usually come out with teir updates first. Silca are the Italians and AD are the UK. The latest T-Code and MVP Pro out look a lot like the SBB now. You should consider a choice between the MVP Pro and the SBB. I am going to get both because in my opinion the T300 is phasing out like Kabba Ilcos old SDD machine. Can anyone recommend a good site i can order either one of these. I tried ecutool and delivery was good but product was poor.

[Fallen]

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[mikaelch]

You can programm keys with Vag-com , or OP-Com? I saw a SBB clone on enthernet, and a device who reads the pin code from Vag Group cars. you think with this 2 devices, can i do something? i saw that SBB doesen t read pin code to program the key. Client must have the pin code from agency, or i have to extract it with a device. Thks.

[castortroy]

i saw a tool recently that pulls the SKIMM code (pin) on every chrysler made and programs new key without having to put in response code from dealer. does all chrysler dodges to 1998 to 2010 $1250. ACI (http://www.getskim.com/) they say there coming out with ford soon and if you buy now you get ford free. this is orginal softwar and dealer with support and updates. thats not a bad price for no headaches. i have read other posts that express concern for the clones SDD,T300, MVP to do chrysler because of the codes and causing the car to lock permantly into a no start mode that only this tool can unlock

[tomasete]

hi there, I have a t300 automam, how can I build a cable for rover? is the adc for nissan or something like that?
by the way, I saw the latest sbb last month and it can program vag group keys without the pincode, I mean you dont need it. something like 2000 ? in spain...

[cracks619]

Does china copy update SBB

[obdmaster]

hi there, I have a t300 automam, how can I build a cable for rover? is the adc for nissan or something like that?
by the way, I saw the latest sbb last month and it can program vag group keys without the pincode, I mean you dont need it. something like 2000 ? in spain...



posted on forum m8, rover t300 or ad100 or mvp all same pin outs m8:top:


http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f68/rover-t3oo-remote-lead-pin-outs-47726/

[tomasete]

SBB CAR LIST
IMMOBILIZER:

ACURA
CL & TL 99-03

TAURUS[P2] 98-99
AND SO ON
Silca SBB Key Programmer IMMOBILISER V2009 updatable - Auto Key Programmer - BMW GT1,BMW OPS,BENZ STAR,MB STAR,AUTO BOSS V30,TACHO PRO,FORD VCM,X431,VAG COM (http://www.noadvertising.com/wholesale/Silca-SBB-Key-Programmer-IMMOBILISER-V2009-updatable-281.html)

I mean, does it burn immos like my friend?s?

[cyrixcard]

Does MVP work on chrysler type 1 and type 2. Has anyone tested with clone MVP? Also does SBB clone program key for chrysler type 1 and type 2? any one tried?

[Bishop c4]

yes work with all brand of chrysler can fobik pacifica etc and skim read but only the last version in my country is namely ver.9.5 jejeje but it works like magic bypass everything.

[pkeeney]

Get both of them. What the t300 cant do the sbb will do. I like the sbb because it more user friendly and don't need pin codes for most newer chryslers.

[pkeeney]

Has any one figured how to fix sbb yet. I got two of them that need to be reprogrammed do to a bad update. There has to be a way to re-flash raw data back into device. Or just have to re-flash the eprom so i can connect it to my pc to reload data.

I can give it a shot if some one has the eprom .bin file from a working sbb.

[fabian]

Has any one figured how to fix sbb yet. I got two of them that need to be reprogrammed do to a bad update. There has to be a way to re-flash raw data back into device. Or just have to re-flash the eprom so i can connect it to my pc to reload data.

I can give it a shot if some one has the eprom .bin file from a working sbb.


I need a help .. I have a SBB clone from a year ago, and now it have been blockaded and it asks me a password. Could someone tell me what was happening?

[Domterran]

we just bought a sbb and it seems to work quite well

[P&D]

Hi folks

Along the same lines as the thread,i'm after a clone unit but only want to clone the ford standard 3 button remotes.4c & 4d mainly 4c
Can these be read by any units on the market & also will they copy the transponder chip to use in a new remote ??

I have read to copy the ford 4c i would need the TPx1 chip & for the 4d the TPX2 chip is this correct.

Any pointers would be greatfully accepted.

This programming subject is like a Maze you just find yourself going round in circles

Thx Phil

[williamlee.trade]

Does china copy update SBB
SBB v31 is the newest version and can update,but the old version before it can't. because it has changed too many parts.

[williamlee.trade]

i've got T300 clone. works fine. the problem that is clone and new models can?t do it. or you have to update, or buy new model. Another problem is pin number. too many brades works with pin. Ford, vag, psa etc read few pin numbers, and in vag group for example do 3-4 diferents possibilities. I'm not very happy.

Silca offer me sbb, but original is expensive. My next buy will be zed bull. You can do a lot of things.

Why don't you chose SBB clone? It is only 280USD.
I got to know the zed bull clone can read and identify the transponder type but can't copy.
who can give me the confirmation about it?

[gilly12]

THE ZEDBULL CLONE IS THE WORSE MASCHINE U CAN BUY FROM CHINA,IT LOOK LIKES GOOD,BUT IT IS RUBBISH

[carman2]

how good is d sbb on jappens cars

[ninja123]

i have sbb ver 28 clone. it works great on rover 5as system, and works on fords up to 2003 without any coded, also reads vag pin codes perfectly! I havnt tried to update it just in case it gets destroyed! I also have mvp but i desperately need a pin out diagram for a rover lead to include pin 7 connected for ecu coding.

[brightlockandkey]

does the sbb program chrysler type 1 and 2?

[uobd2010]

sbb is better than T300 and MVP, no token system.

[pintudex]

i have a clone mpv works ok on most cars does the same as uk version but does not work on fords or rovers
Hi buy both T300 will work great on some cars but will ask for incodes and outcodes. While SBB will work with out this.
Both are cheap tools you can buy both and pay them with you 2 first jobs!

[RU$$ELL]

token system has been cracked on the clones.
My T300 NEEDS ITS TOKEN SYSTEM CRACKED! What A Scam!! any way i could remove this Crap Off My Tool?

[Rito]

SBB Can programe very well Citroen C4 and peugeot 207/307??

[batbatdieu]

Does anyone test these tool with Honda Civic 1.8 Vtec 2008 ? Is it OK ?

[keysmith]

does the sbb program chrysler type 1 and 2?

None of the SBB will do the Type 1 or 2 chrysler. Some of the older SBB will do the CAN but all of the new V31 should do CAN.

D.

[Automat]

I need a help .. I have a SBB clone from a year ago, and now it have been blockaded and it asks me a password. Could someone tell me what was happening?

Try 38023118 or 00000000

[alex1986]

I need a help .. I have a SBB clone from a year ago, and now it have been blockaded and it asks me a password. Could someone tell me what was happening?
try 38023118

[Christopher10]

Wanting to buy a key programmer can anyone tell me what they thinks better out of the 2 i would be buying a clone of them .

Thanks kev

SBB is newer that T300, t300 key programmer is old version for old cars.

[snecii]

I need something for renault pin codes...
If I am right T300 can read out original 16 digit PIN code for CLip Programing! Right? If it can read out can it teach to car key from renault dealer? Can it teach key to car where transponder(PCF7946) has been changed?

Can Sbb2010 do the same as T300? Wich is better?

Wich one for franch cars?
REally thanks!

[snecii]

Somebody...............?

[marekajs]

does SBB cover all makes the mvp does?
how is it better


SBB key programmer is better than mvp.
Mvp is old fashioned.

SBB has new version v32 now.

[marekajs]

Why don't you chose SBB clone? It is only 280USD.
I got to know the zed bull clone can read and identify the transponder type but can't copy.
who can give me the confirmation about it?


zed bull is new product from this year.
i heard some from others that zed bull cannot do as original as it can. It has some problems.
SBB it is good.version v32 at present.

[ziko]

i have SBB and not connect to matiz 2005 with ID48 (T300 connect ok). As I see K line from obd on matiz is pin7, pin7 also for VAG K line and lets say opel immo2
VAG and Opel connect ok, so I guess K line from SBB is ok. Any info why not connect to Matiz?
Also tried to Golf 5 CAN and also not connect, than on oscilloscope I see that one of CAN (high or low) not have good pulse, and suddenly I tried golf4 as K line and after that CAN on golf5 shows good pastern on oscilloscope but still not tried on car


Thanks

[ciprishor]

I had the same problem with SBB and Matiz 2006. Cannot connect on any of the 3 models of Matiz.

[newone]

I had the same problem with SBB and Matiz 2006. Cannot connect on any of the 3 models of Matiz.
sbb can connect with matiz 2006,no pin required but you have to precode T6 as 48-a,also you need adapter for obd.

[ciprishor]

Hello, I had the correct chip, later I made the key by modifying eeprom content. What do you mean "adapter for OBD"? Something else than the OBD cable that SBB comes with? My SBB on Matiz always says: ECU not detected.

[Nzivu]

Hi,
i intednt to buy a clone T300 from china for key programming purposes. I am from kenya, Africa. Most cars in our market are Japanese models between 2002 and 2012 year of manufacture. Is this tool the compatible with most of these vehicles?

[ciprishor]

Yesterday I tried to connect to Dacia Sandero 2008 and Dacia Logan 2006 with SBB clone. Both failed. Is this normal with SBB 33.02? Or mine is defect? It is the same that failed on Daewoo Matiz 2006.

[Nzivu]

anyone out there?

[ciprishor]

As far as I know T300 is not the best choice for Asian cars. It is good mostly for European cars. There is a new tool called X-100 that should be better for Asian market.

[camelgd]

We are out here, but only certain people in your geographic area can answer your question. A Japanese car can have 3 or even 4 different immobilizer setups,based on what area of the world you are in, and consequently, different methods of programming keys. You would do well to read as much as you can on this Forum, and pay particular attention to discussions dealing with your part of the world, and the types of cars you will be dealing with.

[Nzivu]

thanks alot

[ciprishor]

So, should SBB be able to make Dacia Logan and Sandero <2010?