View Full Version : Locksmith newbie need a mentor/teacher
encor4
24th June, 2022, 03:54 PM
hello everyone,
i started learning about locksmithing, keys copying, and i need one or more people who want to teach me this skills. They will be paid. I want to work mostly on european cars. Waiting for your message thanks
i will be using keytool plus, autel im 608 and many more...
fred77
24th June, 2022, 08:36 PM
You will need many more like Abrites - not just china tools
Need a big wallet
encor4
24th June, 2022, 09:44 PM
You will need many more like Abrites - not just china tools
Need a big wallet
If you are down to help me i am Waiting for your pm
Oktawian
24th June, 2022, 10:18 PM
Sad, that You have no idea about subject.
Its not a matter of pressing buttons all the time. Dumps programming, coding , dump editions by You not by program. Pin and login finding. Finding way to go around the problem to solve it.
When buying tools , best time is around december.
What about lock picking ? You need to know how and with what to pick the lock, then DECODE it. not even talking about locks and ignition fixing.
You need to know EVERYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING in a matter of car locks
And its more and more and more of it.
If You're thinking fvdi2022 will do the job, let it go.
encor4
24th June, 2022, 10:28 PM
Sad, that You have no idea about subject.
Its not a matter of pressing buttons all the time. Dumps programming, coding , dump editions by You not by program. Pin and login finding. Finding way to go around the problem to solve it.
When buying tools , best time is around december.
What about lock picking ? You need to know how and with what to pick the lock, then DECODE it. not even talking about locks and ignition fixing.
You need to know EVERYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING in a matter of car locks
And its more and more and more of it.
If You're thinking fvdi2022 will do the job, let it go.
I did not supposed that only pushing some buttons or only one tool will help me. That’s why I am looking for someone to teach me, I have this opportunity to have my start up financed and buy some good tools to start. I am reading forums 3/4 hours everyday, but after all I need someone to guide me through this hard process. I can say that I am a fast an dedicated learner. Thanks for your time.
fred77
25th June, 2022, 09:14 AM
Biggest issue are customers
Starting off you will be expected to
1) fix cars
2) undercut
3) wait to be paid (if at all)
Are you a mechanic or auto electrician?
Starting off you will be slung off s**t jobs nobody else wants and frankly not key programming.
For example would you take on a late Rover MG which supposed immo problem sitting in junction off M4?
Your welcome the guy is waiting for your call!!
Just saying reality is different my friend - business is tough and unpleasant at times
Good luck to you
Oktawian
25th June, 2022, 01:53 PM
I've started with buying cars from police repo and auctions , all of them without keys :D from there, one by one was learning how to do it. Open it , make mechanical key, if it possible to programm used remote , how to get pin / login and in the end how programm immo chip to start the car.
Like that I had peace of mind and lots of time- to go about each car. No pressure.
If you want start from nothing. Open the company, buy some tools if you will get this , I assume free cash on the start ?
Try to clean used keys and refresh them, pre programming of immo chip and sell them locally or online. And wait for the customers. But do it after solid job that will bring you cash for the food and bills.
fuzz1
25th June, 2022, 03:22 PM
Learning should be methodical so i guess if you want to work professionally in that field follow an online course or find a local locksmith looking for an apprentice
super jumbe
25th June, 2022, 11:47 PM
First of all you need a computer brain otherwise spending £100,000 to begin with money in the drain.
fred77
26th June, 2022, 03:05 AM
ask everything to super jumbe - supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
encor4
26th June, 2022, 10:02 AM
Learning should be methodical so i guess if you want to work professionally in that field follow an online course or find a local locksmith looking for an apprentice
In my city, about 250k people they are only 3 locksmiths that i m sure they would not agree to Take me as their apprentice. Do you recomend Any online course?
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encor4
26th June, 2022, 10:06 AM
First of all you need a computer brain otherwise spending £100,000 to begin with money in the drain.
Mhmmm, i know that, time will tell.
Manta1600
26th June, 2022, 12:17 PM
In my city, about 250k people they are only 3 locksmiths that i m sure they would not agree to Take me as their apprentice. Do you recomend Any online course?
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3 locksmiths on 250 000 people are too much - don't waist your money
To work properly you have around 2000 euro on subscriptions every year
Are you think that you will have enough cars to cover them?
encor4
26th June, 2022, 12:36 PM
3 locksmiths on 250 000 people are too much - don't waist your money
To work properly you have around 2000 euro on subscriptions every year
Are you think that you will have enough cars to cover them?
This 3 locksmiths are not enough, trust me, just one of them cand do akl for mostly of the cars, the rest of 2 are on bmw or vag group. This type of business i want to grow is based on my actual garage, i have 2 mechanics and i also import cars from germany to romania so this is won t be my Only income…
I need some people i can ask questions when i am on doubt and when forums can t help me… i know will be very hard guys no need to scade me more…
if you want to help, please dm me… as i mentioned earlier we will find a way that your time will by paid
Have a nice sunday guys, thanks again for your time
dtip
26th June, 2022, 01:53 PM
Everyone started from somewhere, yes they are mostly right that invested money probably wont pay out at first....but that is business and after all life. You seem like a nice guy and i am in your neighboring country so you can message me if you need help on some issue....
Manta1600
26th June, 2022, 05:39 PM
This 3 locksmiths are not enough, trust me, just one of them cand do akl for mostly of the cars, the rest of 2 are on bmw or vag group. This type of business i want to grow is based on my actual garage, i have 2 mechanics and i also import cars from germany to romania so this is won t be my Only income…
I need some people i can ask questions when i am on doubt and when forums can t help me… i know will be very hard guys no need to scade me more…
if you want to help, please dm me… as i mentioned earlier we will find a way that your time will by paid
Have a nice sunday guys, thanks again for your time
So you will invest more than 20 000e in tools + around 10 000e for keys + 2000e for subscriptions to program 1 key per week?
encor4
26th June, 2022, 06:00 PM
So you will invest more than 20 000e in tools + around 10 000e for keys + 2000e for subscriptions to program 1 key per week?
So thats how much you invested? You started doing this and knew everything? I don’t understand why this bothers you so much, i will be investing more or less. I belive in this type of business. You know that is more healty for you to help rather than hate. Have a nice day, hope you will do 100x more keys per week (in comparison with what you wished me)
Manta1600
26th June, 2022, 08:03 PM
So thats how much you invested? You started doing this and knew everything? I don’t understand why this bothers you so much, i will be investing more or less. I belive in this type of business. You know that is more healty for you to help rather than hate. Have a nice day, hope you will do 100x more keys per week (in comparison with what you wished me)
One locksmith easy can cover city with 250 000 citizens - There is already 3 locksmiths - I wish you Good luck
whiskeyman
27th June, 2022, 12:06 AM
No much to learn in this trade now
Videos books picks it's all handed to you on a plate nowNot much graft to put in
It's all out there no secrets to this trade now
godfathertwo
27th June, 2022, 06:40 AM
And free advice on this forum for under cutters they tottally destroyed the business doing keys for peanuts..
rapidlocksmiths
27th June, 2022, 12:15 PM
Personally i would say go on a training course , most are around 10 days but do only teach the very basics which you will need , firm foundations to build upon rather than weak foundations .
from there and long before buying programming tools , i would suggest looking at the coverage you need , makes models and years , then research the best programmers for your coverage needs .
no training will give you competence , competence comes with research and practice and this is an ongoing commitment for ever.
you are not likely to find anyone that can train you to a competent level , especially on specific brands , this comes from alot of research and reading , alot of time in scrap yards and doing as you did buying auction cars with no keys , every day is a school day and this will never change .
you will need a number of skill sets to try and master , picking , lock fitting and stripping and rekeying , electronics , electrics , fault diagnosis etc as it includes many different disciplins .
you may find plenty willing to take your money and give you some training , but in the end it doesnt make you competent , only you can do this via research reading and practice .
buy abrites and you can pay to attend their training courses , most distributors offer training courses on the equipment they sell , some are ok and some a poor but again none make you competent .
you havnt had the answers you wanted so sound upset , sadly its life , the one thing we all have in this game is on the whole we are on our own.
my advice is to learn from the ground up , buy your tools to fit the coverage you identify you need and project 1 brand at a time , read everything and get to scrap yard , it makes you a far better auto locksmith than attending training by those just after your easy training money , most training courses will dissapoint you and most offering training courses are struggling to make a living as an auto locksmith so using training to prop up their business , some offering training are not even competent themselves yet , its a minefield.
i would say 2 years is a fair time frame to basic competence , then every day is a school day as something new to learn as things change so fast .
you reap what you sew , put in the research the practice and the graft , invest in the right quality tooling and work hard at it
good luck
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