Ford how to copy these Ford chips ID63 & ID83

[super jumbe]

As the title says any info how to copy these chips.
Ford 4D63 40 bit and 4D83 80 bit.
Tried with Xhorse key tool max no go.

[rapidlocksmiths]

most good cloners will do these , silca certainly does them , but why bother when these are fine by obd

[p1et]

Seriously? I would understand that question but 5 years ago.

[super jumbe]

Just for a quick copy and go, I even tried TMpro2 I have folder to copy these chips but did not work both keep saying un-clonable funny rapid when you say good cloners such as!!!

[rapidlocksmiths]

silca RW4 plus and the new RW5 as well as new smart ariel that incorperates rw5 with smart pro using silca gti or wedge chips for 40 bit and with their T80 chip for 80 bit .

though obd on these is just as quick , chips are cheaper and its a proper job as key can be recoded if needed in future , obd is always my preference , ive never been a fan of cloning and never will be .

[DenDroid]

Ford chips was copied without any problems with vvdi mini or KD-X2, except smart keys. Tried to clone smart keys - no luck. Was needed chip for aftermarket alarm system (remote start).

Add chip to car via obd - done.

[Supas]

As the title says any info how to copy these chips.
Ford 4D63 40 bit and 4D83 80 bit.
Tried with Xhorse key tool max no go.


Hello Jumbe
Keydiy went well for me...

[godfathertwo]

Handy baby and kdx2 does them in minutes jma trs5000 evo keyline 884 etc etc plus as rapid says better
Doing by obd add key or key lost on ford or mazda .

[ray-ray]

Handy baby cloner $65.00 handy baby blue chip $1.50 or $1.75 Onlyda..tried all cloner and various chip blue chip has the best range, never had a miss fire do to low range chip. Hope that helps!

[mjoesen]

Kdx2 usualy fail on newer Ford for me. I think I never had any sucess kloning pear shaped smart remotes with Id63/83.

[kemaster]

Keyline mini 884 with CK100 and CKG is my preference

[super jumbe]

Lads I have personally copied hundreds of ford chips with TMpro2 but on this occasion with the car I was doing was impossible with almost any tools I had, this is not funny, I even tried with Smart Pro to add key did not work, now I will explain why I could not able to copy chip and add key, car with young children the keys are programmed with special software to keys such a way that the cars will not exid over 60MPH you cannot copy those chips because the software not compatible with any key programmers, I asked customer for more info and said the car was gift from my parents and the keys will not let the car go over 60MPH that’s why I need new key, I erased all keys but could not add keys with any programmers even smart pro let me down, finally I managed to add key with HT3 ford programmer, good all Mr Chris you third time you save my life, remember there is always to learn in locksmith business.

[rapidlocksmiths]

it sounds like the mykeys system , if so a master key is needed to make changes to the restrictions on the keys , if you had added a new key to the system ( if ht3 worked from no keys then should work with add key too) this would have been a master key and allow you to make changes to the my key system.

jumbe if the my keys system , then cloning a restricted key if possible would just have cloned another restricted key as would have same id , if no master key exists then coding a new master key obd is required , though i suspect mum and dad have kept a master key which of course will no longer work now you have deleted and added keys.

[p1et]

I dont believe smart pro didnt work for you as it's one of the most reliable ford programming machines

[vialli]

Hi super jumbe
You didn't specify which Ford model it is, is it a blade key Focus?
Do you still have Lonsdor? Why didn't you use it?
I'm sure you wouldn't have had any problems adding a new key with Lonsdor

[super jumbe]

Once the car keys have been changed to my keys system nothing will add or clone chips that was the reason I came here for help, you don’t have to believe me who cares, the only person made sense was rapid he knew what I was talking about and that’s the end I will say.

[rapidlocksmiths]

jumbe , i dont think anyone is having a go , in fairness in your original post you didnt mention the retricted keys issue or year and model , just the cloning of id63 40 and 80 bit , which as you know is basics , just shows the importance of being clear when posting with as much detail.

with the mykeys system , with a master key you can add a range of restrictions to keys , ie speed restrictions to keys you allow your kids to use as in this case , a master key is needed to add or remove a keys restriction.

all programmed keys are in effect a master key until restrictions have been placed on them . so had you just added another key by obd then this would be a master key as its a new key with no restrictions , you could have used this to enter the mykeys system and remove restrictions from your customers keys .
its odd that none of your other kit added a key , but HT3 did once all keys were deleted , so should have when the others were still in the system .
did you try HT3 to simply add a key before clearing all keys ?

had you managed to clone the customers key it would still have been restricted as a clone of a restricted key , another reason why cloning isnt best way forward in my opinion, im also not having a pop at cloning , i just dont like cloning as to me its not a proper job , on cloning its each to own.

ive never tried to clone a ford id63 so have never come up against this issue of restricted keys not cloning , so if the case ive learnt something new from this thread as im sure have others , i may restrict one and then have a go just to see if silca still clone it or not.

i think the responses were in response to the original post as came over as just a question on how and what to use to clone 40 and 80 bit chips , no mention of year model and restricted keys , so answers i think related to the perception of the question , a lesson to all in this that a well worded question containing make model year and exact issue gets more relevent answers , for instance , had you mentioned the restricted keys so cant go over 60 , i and others would of known its the mykeys system and posted on how to get around this , which would have resulted in a very different thread.

far from end of world , certainly not worth getting upset , after all we all potentially learnt something here , me included as i had no idea a restricted key could not be cloned , so even out of threads like this theres nuggets for all .

the biggest lesson to learn from this for all those reading is to be clear in your questions adding as much detail as is possible to ensure getting the correct and relevent answers quickly ,

[vialli]

its odd that none of your other kit added a key , but HT3 did once all keys were deleted , so should have when the others were still in the system .
did you try HT3 to simply add a key before clearing all keys ?




rapidlocksmiths clearly and professionally explained what happens to the car when you have the MyKey setting activated.
To remove any confusion from this thread, I can confirm that it is the same job to add a key or AKL in both situations (with or w/o MyKey set).
I have done this successfully a few times on the Focus mk3, once just for the simple key, only with the chip.
The same job for keyless start/entry models, I added a key and then AKL for Mondeo 2015 mk5 (id49)

[rapidlocksmiths]

just to add ive added a key to a number of vehicles by obd to generate a new master key as well as all keys lost , using smart pro and HT3 , autel and abrites over the years without issue , so cant be sure what was going on with this one , im surprised smart pro failed

[p1et]

Jumbe always have strange problems that anyone else did not encounter :)