VAG-COM/VCDS EVERYTHING

[liviudiaconu]

Bad quality clone.
First try with another cable (USB A to USB B, aka "for printers").

For "time to time recognise" make this: Mount USB cable, power-on clone and DON'T TUCH the clone. Try put in USB more times. Recognise?

[hid3]

Damn... Why do you n00bs keep buying low quality non-working interfaces (there has been at least several posts with identical hardware) instead of the recommended ones and then come here for help? Contact the seller, Ali or Ross for support on these or buy normal one

[bg17aw]

Dont know if it is faulty hardware and I return it to the seller or if there is a way to get it working.
Wouldn't the postage cost more to return to the seller than the actual cable?
You might try to ask for a refund

Some good cables are recommended here: https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3504897&viewfull=1#post3504897

[TheSky]

The site indicates the high quality... but then in the notes it is written in red:
"Not work friendly with MQB platform."
Why?

[LostAngel]

Because only the official interfaces HEX V2 and HEX NET are currently working on the MQB platform!

[GoAzBox]

Just installed Kolimer V7.2 and it works like a charm.

Thanks for this genius loader! Kolimer, you are the best! Thank to all other folks providing me with info. Didnt expect it to be such a breeze.

[TheSky]

Because only the official interfaces HEX V2 and HEX NET are currently working on the MQB platform!
What then is the difference with the old cable?
Only that HEX V2 is faster?
The old cable works on MQB

[LostAngel]

Old cables do not fully support the new platform, some modules can not be read, some encoding can not be done, etc! If you use the interface on older machines, upgrading is not necessary! I mention that it is only my personal opinion!

[heshamzn]

is this one good to buy ?
https://www.obd2cartool.com/atmega-vag-hexv2-vag-1781-usb-interface-vcds-hex-v2-189-full-actived-for-vw-audi-seat-skoda-p-1492?zenid=ss4pa8f58l81u0nnktepn94045
i mean it can be flash by usb and car
is there any cheaper guaranteed site ??

[bg17aw]

I think this is the same but cheaper (and free shipping): http://www.obd2obd.com/vag-diagnostic-tool/vag-com-v2-vcds-18-2-v2-with-ft232rq-and-atmega162-chip-supports-milti-languages.html

[hid3]

35 days later someone will come here, post pics of HEX-V2 with really bad quality soldering work on the PCB and ask "why the drivers are not detected" :D

[heshamzn]

35 days later someone will come here, post pics of HEX-V2 with really bad quality soldering work on the PCB and ask "why the drivers are not detected" :D

U mean me Hhahahah so tell me where to buy one cheap and can be flashed by usb just cuz i don't know how to use programmer

[hid3]

Do some homework: scroll up 5-6 posts and see if you can solve the riddle.

[safm]

@heshamzn look here


Cheapest option: http://www.obd2cartool.com/vagcom-1684-full-active-vcds-1684-diy-vag-com-1684-can-reprogram-language-and-version-p-1266
High quality option: http://www.obd2cartool.com/atmega-vag-hexv2-vag-1781-usb-interface-vcds-hex-v2-full-actived-free-shipping-p-1554

In either case you will need to do a quick reflash (takes a few minutes, no special tools needed) in order to use latest VCDS and loader

[heshamzn]

i saw it but now new problem Can not ready although it was ready before i tested always on my car and it was ready all the time and i could make auto scan now i changed the win to 32 bit and try some programs like can commander and didin't work and install vcp some play around then i install vcds latest it gives me can not ready ??? what the ??
i reflash it again and again no use can not ready what happend do i need to install fresh windows to clear the programs also i installed odis

[heshamzn]

Got every thing ok again and got Can Ok again the reason for this problem was the latest version which i downloaded yesterday from the ross tech site that was the problem who got link to old latest version that work ok ??

[heshamzn]

Don't use the latest vcds from the ross tech site they did some thing there that disable the can and make it not ready

[Roma77]

Don't use the latest vcds from the ross tech site they did some thing there that disable the can and make it not ready
Write all in one post, stop spam, edit post button.
A lot of spam, users come and can not find good information, too many unnecessary posts.

[litllevill]

Hi all,please help me with this hex v2 to program with 18.9,thanks.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190325/74676e8e68b92d3a563572fba9f48987.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190325/518d42b99d4066dc6182e22080df3d94.jpg

Trimis de pe al meu EML-L29 folosind Tapatalk

[LostAngel]

I think it is China-type hardware, the poor quality clone that can not be used with the Kolimar Loader! I do not see ATMEGA 162!Compare your clone with the images here, you will see by yourself what the differences are!

https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forum...=1#post3504897 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3504897&viewfull=1#post3504897)

[Novica]

Hi Everybody!

I have found this site searching for info about my VCDS 11.11.5 why she is not showing some engine data showed by newer version (17....)

I found you guys and you make me very happy!!!

Many THANKS to @kolimer for his support!

So, after reading 4 and more days this thread I have made update (even if I did not planned to do today) to my interface and VCDS.

Even my interface was working OK I was searching for better solution.

I found here link (with picture guide how to do it):

https://www.drive2.ru/l/518948048907273121/

Downloaded VCDSLoader v5.1 and follow guide written by elpaso544 (many thanks to him as well if he is present here).

First I checked my chips:

607159 607160 607161

ATMEGA162 16AU 1236H; ATF16V8BQL - 15SU; FT232BL 731-1; MCP2515; MCP2551; ATMLH236; Even If I am not sure which fuctions they are performing :)

I need to mention also the seller from BiH (ABdija........ Sarajevo) who sold me this excellent interface few years ago and worked all the time without any problem (many thanks to him as well if he is registered here and reading this).

Checked my version:

607165

Checked HW version:

607166

To be continued in next post

[Novica]

Checked VID an PID data:

607172

Corrected PID data from FA24 to FA20 into VAGCOM_EEWriteLang program


Followed all instructions as elpaso544 posted and there is result:

607174

Very easy update, only through USB and connected to car

One question, can I update it in same way for newer version (18...), without using programmer?

Thanks for all your posts here, they are very useful!!

[LostAngel]

Use the loader on every version of \ / (ds you install.) Search to download Loader 7.2 for older versions of \ / (ds! I do not guarantee that it works perfectly on the latest version!

[Novica]

Thanks for suggestion, for now I will use this version. It is ok for my car (Audi 2.0 tdi 2011 year), as I am using diagnostic tool mostly for me. I was hoping that I will get Long coding help for recently retrofitted 4C module (for tire pressure control modul 7K6 option - indirect type) but this module is still unknown for vcds, never mind I get synchronization data in address 01 - engine :) which I could not find on old version.

[bg17aw]

Checked VID an PID data:

Corrected PID data from FA24 to FA20 into VAGCOM_EEWriteLang program


I don't think that was necessary

I kept FA24 in place and everything worked.

Any pictures with how you soldered the wires to your PCB/chips?

Regarding VAGCOM_HWType.exe, I think you are not using the latest version, it should display a 4th row with info about Bootloader status, I have attached a picture and the latest version

[JBG2]

Hello all,

I have read through this thread and on page 523 about a cable to buy a "cheap" and "better" quality clone. I have never used VCDS before or a clone cable so I have a few questions:

Can you brick your car using a fake cable? - I have never bought the original because in the UK it costs £450 for an unlimited license!
What is the difference between the original cable and clone cables?
After experience would you use a clone cable over an original cable?
Im technically minded so having to flash the cable etc or cutting a trace (after reading you might need to do this to update certain cables). - Is there anything else I should be aware of?

Thanks

[Roma77]

Hello all,

I have read through this thread and on page 523 about a cable to buy a "cheap" and "better" quality clone. I have never used VCDS before or a clone cable so I have a few questions:

Can you brick your car using a fake cable? - I have never bought the original because in the UK it costs £450 for an unlimited license!
What is the difference between the original cable and clone cables?
After experience would you use a clone cable over an original cable?
Im technically minded so having to flash the cable etc or cutting a trace (after reading you might need to do this to update certain cables). - Is there anything else I should be aware of?

Thanks
Pre-sale clone technical support лол
Know all the reward that awaits you when buying a clone, do you have fortune tellers in the city? for sure their services are cheaper than 450 pounds.
A good clone costs about 23 pounds and you are still in doubt. In my country with an average salary of 250 pounds, no one doubts :)

[tucano79]

Hi guys. I know how to program vag. I had program my vag to 18.9 with loader 7.2 but then my pc doesn’t recognize the cable. It seems to be driver do not installed so windows show the yellow cartoon “unknown device” so when I do the test port I have message “interface non found” and Red Cross image. I tried to reprogram the cable but the result doesn’t change. Program succesfully, the green led turn on, but cable doesn’t works. The vcds is correctly installed on pc infact another my vag 18.9 works perfectly. So I think that cable is damage. Witch component of the cable should be damage?

[kaalis]

What VID and PID do you have for it in device manager?

[Volki]

Hello,

I have the following problem:
Originally my cable was recognized as serial-interface. I had to reflash with MProg to get the proper name in device manager: Ross-Tech HEX or KEY USB Interface.
I reflashed the Atmega succesfully, but in VCDS I get Unkown firmware message, and VCDS can not update. Also VAGCOM_HWType not recognize it anymore.
I know that my flash file is ok because it was worked with an other cable. I used ProgISP and the corresponding project file.

Can anybody help?

Thank You

[Novica]

@bg17aw
I did not make any soldering to interface, I was using method without programmer, connecting interface to car and to laptop via usb only.
Everything goes well.

[bg17aw]

Hi guys. I know how to program vag. I had program my vag to 18.9 with loader 7.2 but then my pc doesn’t recognize the cable. It seems to be driver do not installed so windows show the yellow cartoon “unknown device” so when I do the test port I have message “interface non found” and Red Cross image. I tried to reprogram the cable but the result doesn’t change. Program succesfully, the green led turn on, but cable doesn’t works. The vcds is correctly installed on pc infact another my vag 18.9 works perfectly. So I think that cable is damage. Witch component of the cable should be damage?
Follow the following steps:

- uninstall VCDS and make sure to check to uninstall drivers as well
- reconnect cable to usb port and check in Device Manager, if it appears there (with a yellow exclamation mark or not) right-click and choose "uninstall" and make sure to check "Delete driver"
- at this point, remove cable from usb port
- re-install VCDS 18.9.0
- reconnect cable to usb port and check in Device Manager
- your cable should now be installed correctly, no yellow exclamation mark

[bg17aw]

@bg17aw
I did not make any soldering to interface, I was using method without programmer, connecting interface to car and to laptop via usb only.
Everything goes well.
That means you bootloader was unlocked. Unfortunately, you didn't use the correct version of HWType, as it would have shown the bootloader status as well.

You were lucky.

[julez01]

607825607826
Hi, im having problems with my newly received hex v2 clone from aliexpress. It is not possible for me to get it working. Windows recognises the cable sometimes but vcds is not able to establish a connection, it freezes then inside test option. But mostly it does not get recognised by windows, instead it is shown as "unknown device" inside device manager. I was never able to get it working, tried at 3 PCs now... I attached a screenshot from device manager and pics from inside the dongle. maybe you can advise me .. thx
I tested it on my android phone and as soon as i plug it in, it gets recognised and iam offered to open it with torque. Inside torque it is showing me values. Sometimes my phone recognises it as "null" and sometimes it is recognised as " Ross-Tech HEX-USB"
Dont know if it is faulty hardware and I return it to the seller or if there is a way to get it working.


What can I can do to get this thing running? Is there a chance to get it working? Can you give me a starting point ...? At least all basic things been done: changed the cable, soldered a new usb socket, re-installed the drivers a hundred times, tried different drivers but no luck at all.

Attached a pic of inside device manager. The first message says: the driver could not be loaded and it may be damaged or it is non existent. (Code 39) and the second message says: (unknown Bild) %hs is whether not intended to be executed on windows or it contains errors.
IMHO is it a driver problem, maybe because of ftdi-clone chip.. but what do you mean
(btw have a look at the fritzbox. I connected the clone on my fritzbox, to connect it via fritz usb remote connection to my pc, which gave me the same errors...Since that it shows the same error messages like the clone?! Also USB devices are now not available via usb remote connection)
I know its a bad clone but may it be possible to get it working?

607823

[Furax]

Do the 18.9 leads still have the capability to brick themselves? My 11.11 lead is dead due to connecting with the internet enabled, i want to upgrade rather than repair so am going to buy a new lead.

[hid3]

For those buying cheap crap at Ali - get normal quality cable (from Obd2CarTool recommended) or go away. Those cheap crappy cables are impossible to repair, period.

[kaalis]

i want to upgrade rather than repair so am going to buy a new lead.
So, you can't choose between choice #1 and choice #2. That's why you do choice #3. Why we need to know it?

Better post normal quality pictures of your PCB.

[Furax]

So, you can't choose between choice #1 and choice #2. That's why you do choice #3. Why we need to know it?

Better post normal quality pictures of your PCB.

Apologies, I don't think i explained myself properly.

I trashed my old lead, so ive bought a new good quality one that is on its way (https://www.obd2cartool.com/atmega-vag-hexv2-vag-1890-usb-interface-vcds-hex-v2-full-actived-free-shipping-p-1554)

What I was asking is. Does 18.9 VCDS work the same way as 11.11 by trashing the lead if it detects it as a clone. What precautions should I take with the new version when using it (if any?). Never connect to the internet on that laptop or is disconnecting when VCDS is open enough?

Thanks

[kaalis]

If using loader properly, you can leave internet connection ON and use it together with vcds. Read or re-read info.pdf from loader archive.

[Jerak]

I bought the recommended interface from OBD2Cartool.com and it looks exactly like the picture in Info.pdf (VCDSLoader v6.3).
It is supposed to have the bootloader enabled but I get "Not in bootloader mode" running VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe.
I tried with the jumpers off and on.
Info.pdf says that it is supposed to be HW type 0x44 but VAGCOM_HWType.exe reports that it is FW 1.96 and HW 0x46.
Note I had to have jumpers on for VAGCOM_HWType.exe to read this.

I didn't cut any traces though because it doesn't have the STC chip, is this correct?

Help please. Thank you.

[kaalis]

Get usbasp, reprogram to 0x44. Sometimes (usually) they can't read numbers properly.

[Jerak]

Get usbasp, reprogram to 0x44. Sometimes (usually) they can't read numbers properly.

Ok. Thanks.

[kaalis]

Get a cable that can plug into usbasp. Cut off connector (if any) in the other end and wire it correctly with cable you got together with vcds clone.
Connection diagram is in this PDF from Fantomel that you can google... "2.PROGISP FOR VCDS Tutorial.pdf"

[Jerak]

Get a cable that can plug into usbasp. Cut off connector (if any) in the other end and wire it correctly with cable you got together with vcds clone.
Connection diagram is in this PDF from Fantomel that you can google... "2.PROGISP FOR VCDS Tutorial.pdf"

So inexpensive, I bought-https://www.ebay.com/itm/USBASP-USBISP-AVR-Programmer-Adapter-10-Pin-Cable-USB-ATMEGA8-ATMEGA128-Arduino/310506909410?epid=25004058957&hash=item484ba76ee2:g:X2YAAOSwEVZcmGhg

Found the Fantomel pdf too.
Thanks

[bg17aw]

Can someone detail how to identify hardware type? Not sure what to check for even following the guide


For example, on my PCB, there is no IC1 marking so not sure which corner to check and what to check for

[tucano79]

[/LEFT]
Follow the following steps:

- uninstall VCDS and make sure to check to uninstall drivers as well
- reconnect cable to usb port and check in Device Manager, if it appears there (with a yellow exclamation mark or not) right-click and choose "uninstall" and make sure to check "Delete driver"
- at this point, remove cable from usb port
- re-install VCDS 18.9.0
- reconnect cable to usb port and check in Device Manager
- your cable should now be installed correctly, no yellow exclamation mark

Thank you, but drivers are already install correcty, infact another vag works correctly.

Thank you Kaalis:
The vag that works shows me
USB\VID_0403&PID_FA24&REV_0600
USB\VID_0403&PID_FA24

When I connect the vag that don't works, de device manager tell me "unknow device". So I think it's a problem of harware of the vag.
But I don't know which component. May be the FTDI FT232RL?

[Mario6]

tucano79 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/548178-tucano79)

Also check what VID and PID has a cable that does not work "unknown usb device" VID 0000_PID 0000. Sometimes you can fix it.

[kaalis]

Can someone detail how to identify hardware type? Not sure what to check for even following the guide
Can you count from 1 to 34 and 35? Then you will see if there are or are not traces going from Atmega to GAL chip.
Ignore IC1, D1CK, CR@P and whatever marking are on PCB itself.

[Roma77]

Can someone detail how to identify hardware type? Not sure what to check for even following the guide


For example, on my PCB, there is no IC1 marking so not sure which corner to check and what to check for
You have a 0x44 board, and the firmware can be 0x44 and 0x46(not correct)

[bg17aw]

Thank you, but drivers are already install correcty, infact another vag works correctly.

why not just try it anyway?? I bet it will work if you do

[bg17aw]

You have a 0x44 board, and the firmware can be 0x44 and 0x46(not correct)
Yes, I know I have a 44, I was just trying to understand the picture, that suggests you can determine what hardware type you have just by looking at the chip, no multimeter. I used a multimeter for mine, so trying to find an easier solution for the future.

Or I should ask: how can you tell just my looking at my PCB? I circled pins 34 and 35, I don't see connections from them

[hid3]

Info.PDF file has got very preceise information about finding out the hardware type. Each word in that section is important and is there for a reason.
Quick way is to visually check for ATmega 34 & 35 pins if they are connected or not to GAL chip.
But... I'd suggest using multimeter each time, because there are a lot of cables which have traces under the ATmega chip and they are not visible at the first glance.

[Roma77]

Yes, I know I have a 44, I was just trying to understand the picture, that suggests you can determine what hardware type you have just by looking at the chip, no multimeter. I used a multimeter for mine, so trying to find an easier solution for the future.

Or I should ask: how can you tell just my looking at my PCB? I circled pins 34 and 35, I don't see connections from them
This comes with the experience of a friend, when you see and repair hundreds of different boards from different stores, it is often enough to look at the board and you know the version and cost)).
But as the writes hid3
multimeter the eye is always safer.

[Jerak]

I think that you had bought the recommended cable. So with a meter-
ATmega 34 and 35 pins are connected to ATF16V8B pins 5 and 4
ATF16V8B pin9 is connected to the FTDI chip pin1.

[bg17aw]

Jerak, excellent pic, just wish it was a higher resolution version

[tumulto]

6099871.96 - 0x44 - bootloader enabled
hello guys
I have 2 questions about my cable:
1) It is 182 and I use with vcds 18.2 english very well in my laptop dell win10 64. I bought Other system (ODIS) and came with Lenovo Laptop WIN7 Ultimate 64... But curiously the VCDS that i already have, when I use vcdsloader nothing work, delete VCDS file and not open nothing, Just open if I dont use Loader... But in my Dell is working well.


2) Searching about vcds loader, I found this forum, and I see my cable is looks like good.
I am wright?
There are some step-by-step to upgrade him?
And what advantages if I do it?

[leroiv]

Hello to everyone!
I am new to this domain of vcds flash-ing... I have a clone vcds 12.12.0 english version. I think is HW44 LB.
610021
I use it from 2 years with no problems but these days when I started the scan to read for error codes from my car suddenly a windows pops-up with a message to <use a licensed interface>. Probably last time when I scanned my car the internet connection was opened and found my cloned cable... Testing the cable is ok like in the picture
610024
Has anyone dump files, loaders...etc, for 12.12.0 or maybe a link to download to flash the cable? Thank you for your time!
p.s: the back of the PCB: MCP 2515, FTDI 1327 - FT232RL
610239

[kaalis]

Read about Kolimer loader and update to 18.9.x if cable has atmega162 chip you are trying to hide from us.

[meciu]

Update to my previous post #7952 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING/page531) about "HEX-V2" from AliExpress..
So I've managed to fix this china clone.. device was not recognized correctly because of NO NAME FT232. Bought original FTDI FT232BL (6€), soldered correctly and now it works as it should!

[hid3]

Not much left ahead - next step will be to replace no-name MCP2515 with proper one to make CAN always work properly :D

[meciu]

Yeah, already upgraded noname chip to proper MCP2515 :D but to be honest - I dont see any difference between them (except visual) so I didn't post info about that.

[liviudiaconu]

For work with V7.2 18.9.0 installer needed. If try with 18.9.1 25.02.2019 CAN NotReady will appear.

[julez01]

Update to my previous post #7952 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING/page531) about "HEX-V2" from AliExpress..
So I've managed to fix this china clone.. device was not recognized correctly because of NO NAME FT232. Bought original FTDI FT232BL (6€), soldered correctly and now it works as it should!


Yeah man, I'm having the same crappy cable from Aliexpress ( BOSCAR - Jimmy Jimmy - MFer) with the same failures like you. Checked also that it is working with short cable, so did solder an old short USB cable onto it, too. So it works but as you said its way too short. Ordered new ftdi, too but not arrived until now.

[e701]

Hi Looking to buy my 1st cable, which recommend for Audi TT Euro, mk2 2 / 8j? will certiainly buy from odb2cartool, so confusing with loads of versions

So much info, alot to take in but very very intrestring cant wait to play.

What the diffeence with the version availabe? some are more expensive then others? any reason using old over newer verions vagcom / vcds?

sorry for newbie question.

Regards.

[bg17aw]

obd2cartool charges at least $10 to deliver to my country, while all others offer free shipping.

I found this one that looks really good

[alexm1]

There are a few items with free shipping, at list for EU.

[meciu]

@e701


For example this one http://www.obd2cartool.com/atmega-vag-hexv2-vag-1781-usb-interface-vcds-hex-v2-full-actived-free-shipping-p-1554
or this one https://www.obd2cartool.com/atm-182-vag-com-1890-vcds-full-active-enfrde-vag-hex-can-crack-cable-p-1561?zenid=81ta3jrvpju1ve5jevicvufjl3

Sure, you can also buy this crappy clones from china or somewhere else, but this will be a waste of money and time if cable will be without atmega+ftdi+mcp

[Roma77]

obd2cartool charges at least $10 to deliver to my country, while all others offer free shipping.

I found this one that looks really good
Buy a cable from Ali but .... when you ask why the scanner does not work for you, I will remind you about this flow.
You have been told where to buy quality goods, so why these thoughtless posts.

[Jerak]

obd2cartool charges at least $10 to deliver to my country, while all others offer free shipping.

I found this one that looks really good

I think that China subsidizes shipping for small business (they must).
My country will let these free delivery items sit in customs for months.
Maybe it is because they sit in a bulk transport that takes time to sort.
If I choose a vendor that charges even $1 for shipping, I seem to get it in weeks instead.
Just a thought.

[bg17aw]

Buy a cable from Ali but .... when you ask why the scanner does not work for you, I will remind you about this flow.
You have been told where to buy quality goods, so why these thoughtless posts.
I already had a very good cable from Aliexpress, with programming interface, which I upgraded successfully.

I am just pointing out obd2cartool is charging extra for nothing and for everything:

- $2.84 extra for 18.9.0... hmmm...
- $10 for shipping (or increased price by $10 for "free" shipping)

This one has pictures of the chips and it also states ATMEGA in the description, a refund is always possible if not as described (60 days + 15 days for dispute policy)

EDIT: seems censorship is in place, links from Aliexpress are just removed! That's not cool
Allow others to have some opinions please, even if they differ from yours.

This is the one, the PCB looks good to me, the description as well

[bg17aw]

I think that China subsidizes shipping for small business (they must).
My country will let these free delivery items sit in customs for months.
Maybe it is because they sit in a bulk transport that takes time to sort.
If I choose a vendor that charges even $1 for shipping, I seem to get it in weeks instead.
Just a thought.
That is a good point and I thought so too, but the shipping time is still listed as the classic 30 to 60 days...
The one I ordered from Ali had a 27-49 days policy, will see

Just trying to help, by the way.

[Roma77]

That is a good point and I thought so too, but the shipping time is still listed as the classic 30 to 60 days...
The one I ordered from Ali had a 27-49 days policy, will see

Just trying to help, by the way.
I asked you to write everything in one message and not to engage in spam, I receive the goods from OBD in 12 days, with Ali for 25-30. (My country is listed in the profile)
about the cost of delivery there are goods with free shipping, you can have your opinion but why are you then asking for help here and not listening to advice? and now I have to respond to you with flooding unrelated to repairs and problems, I appeal to you personally, stop spamming, trolling - they gave you advice if they are not suitable for you leave spamming on Ali or another store, this is a topic for those who need help and not flood .
It will help no matter where someone bought their cable, and RECOMMEND but NOT REQUIRE where to buy quality.
I do not want to communicate with you anymore, you consider yourself smarter than those who ask for advice:)

[hid3]

I already had a very good cable from Aliexpress, with programming interface, which I upgraded successfully.

I am just pointing out obd2cartool is charging extra for nothing and for everything:

- $2.84 extra for 18.9.0... hmmm...
- $10 for shipping (or increased price by $10 for "free" shipping)

This one has pictures of the chips and it also states ATMEGA in the description, a refund is always possible if not as described (60 days + 15 days for dispute policy)

EDIT: seems censorship is in place, links from Aliexpress are just removed! That's not cool
Allow others to have some opinions please, even if they differ from yours.

This is the one, the PCB looks good to me, the description as well

Charges for nothing, you say?

You do understand that chips are being flashed with some version during assembly point, at the stage where chip isn't even soldered to the PCB. During the time while interface is being manufactured, versions change. The requirement to manually reflash involves time and labour, maybe that's why because the charge exists? If you are so smart, you can always buy whatever version is offered and reflash youself, so what's the problem?

As for shipping with +$10. Have you ever heard about PostNL service? With this shipping option your package will reach your hands in 12-15 calendar days from the moment you do the order. Now how long does your Ali package travels? In the pic you attached it's stated that the processing time alone is 7 days and delivery time is up to 60 days. From experience I know that in most cases it arrives after 35-45 days of waiting.

Also, do Ali sellers offer any technical support? No. Once they get your money, you're on your own. Meanwhile OBD2CT folks are active members of the community, helping people with their interfaces purchased months if not years ago.

Finally, go a few pages back where one member bought the same HEX-V2 interface from Ali as in your pic. It was not working, besides, soldering quality was awful. After he realised that he started claiming he bought it from OBD2CT but couldn't provide neither his order number or date nor warranty sticker evidence and finally was unkenneled.

If Ali sellers are so great, why do we keep seeing so many people buying non working crap there and later come here asking for help? Go to the sellers and ask for their help instead.

Moral of the story: buy your interface whereever you want (I bet you spend more money on the cigarettes per day than the price difference but anyway) but please have respect to trusted sellers and don't spread misleading information which you don't even know.

[bg17aw]

I asked you to write everything in one message and not to engage in spam, I receive the goods from OBD in 12 days, with Ali for 25-30. (My country is listed in the profile)
about the cost of delivery there are goods with free shipping, you can have your opinion but why are you then asking for help here and not listening to advice? and now I have to respond to you with flooding unrelated to repairs and problems, I appeal to you personally, stop spamming, trolling - they gave you advice if they are not suitable for you leave spamming on Ali or another store, this is a topic for those who need help and not flood .
It will help no matter where someone bought their cable, and RECOMMEND but NOT REQUIRE where to buy quality.
I do not want to communicate with you anymore, you consider yourself smarter than those who ask for advice:)
1) how is me posting a link to a good cable spam, and you posting a link to a cable not spam?
2) you seem to only promote one website, that seems more like spam (I posted two different cables from two different websites)
3) Calm down. Stop attacking people for no reason
4) I also provided help to others when I could. You seem the only one who considers himself smarter...
5) If you do not want to talk to me, just don't. Do not reply to me saying all sorts of things, as that means you are communicating.

6) Please see my post here: https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3532565&viewfull=1#post3532565
I actually recommended the cables from obd2ct. Ok? Some appologies might be in order.

[bg17aw]

If you are so smart, you can always buy whatever version is offered and reflash youself, so what's the problem?

hmm... where exactly I said I am smart, or smarter etc? I did say "they charge for nothing" for 2 reasons:
1) we can reflash to whatever version we want as you yourself mention
2) the ones I linked from other websites already come with 18.9.0 ( I would still reflash to 18.9.1 probably)

3) no, I never heard pf PostNL

4) obd2ct might offer some after-sale support, might be better as you say, still don't see the reason you guys get so aggressive just because I posted an alternative. I actually posted another website that also says they offer after-sales support besides Ali

5) "unkenneled" ? Really?

6) Where did I ever say Ali "is great"? Don't put words in my mouth. Again, so much fuss over nothing...

7) yeah, stop spreading missleading info you don't even know, do not acuse me of spamming, do not say you know I smoke (or ever did).

Jeez...

[turboleak]

I have a question that is not really specific to VCDS but it's almost there. If it is considered as hijacking this thread I will apologize and delete the question.

- I want to check and erase the error codes of a control module for the suspension of an Audi allroad from 2002 without actually having an Audi allroad or even connecting the module to a car.

Besides powering the VCDS cable and module with a 12v power supply, what other pins do I need to connect from the cable to the module, to then open vcds software and select the module and read/erase the error codes? Is this even possible?

[xoom]

I have a question that is not really specific to VCDS but it's almost there. If it is considered as hijacking this thread I will apologize and delete the question.

- I want to check and erase the error codes of a control module for the suspension of an Audi allroad from 2002 without actually having an Audi allroad or even connecting the module to a car.

Besides powering the VCDS cable and module with a 12v power supply, what other pins do I need to connect from the cable to the module, to then open vcds software and select the module and read/erase the error codes? Is this even possible?

Check in ElsaWin. If its not going through Gateway.

[kaalis]

Depends on version of J197.


20pin version
#5 gnd
#15 gnd
#16 k
#11 30
#2 15

50pin version
#1 gnd
#2 gnd
#15 k
#25 30
#49 15
#50 30
[#20 canh, #21 canl] not needed for this


But you will get faults back second after clearing them as no sensors are not connected or they are off actual readings.
What is the purpose doing this?

Instrument cluster acts like a small crappy gateway in A6 C5 trying to control some ecu's like parkings, radio, etc. It's not real gateway as we know from CAN era cars.

[tucano79]

Hello guys can I program the FT232 with ept file using usbasp programmer? If yes, can you tell me how can I do it? Thank so much

[hid3]

FT232 can be probrammed directly via USB. You can use MProg software for that - there is no need (nor possibility) to use USBASP for that.

[akio]

Hello,

I'm newbe and
I've got this device. Is it a "ggod" one?
It comes with a CD and VCDSLoader.exe for using. But VCDSLoader.exe is infected ...
And please can anyone give me support for this device how to flash.



611981611983611984611986

Kind regards
Akio

[alexm1]

That cable is a bad bussines for you, next time when you buy another one ask be sure to be with Atmega not ARM like this one. You can not Reflash it.

[belkor]

you are to disabled antivirus and make exceptions in your antivirus

[turboleak]

@kaalis and @xoom,
Thanks for replying.

I should obviously have added more info. The reason is that I want to purchase this module for later use and be sure that it doesn't have the dreaded 65535 - memory fault error that is known to kill them.
So basically, I want to buy one, read error codes on a bench instead on having a real car, and check if the 65535 error code is present ( if it is the module is garbage ).

[akio]

should i buy this:
https://www.obd2cartool.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1492

[muscles1960]

should i buy this:
https://www.obd2cartool.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1492

Yep. All good. Just update to new 18.9 version via USB using Kolimer's 7.2 loader package once received.

[Alexander1997]

please help . how do you all calculate the mileage correction !!!!!!!!!!!!
tell me the formule please :2in1:

[Shebby mwembe]

hellow mr am the bigginer on the proglaming i want lear how to make programming in car​

[tucano79]

FT232 can be probrammed directly via USB. You can use MProg software for that - there is no need (nor possibility) to use USBASP for that.


thank you so much hid3 I just try to do it as you said using Mprog 3.5. I connect Vag by USB port but when I do the scan with Mprog the message is:
Number of blank device:0
Number or programmed device:0 (instead 1)
So if I try to flash, Mprog doesn’t flash and show me “no device found”

How can I do to program RT232?

[belkor]

should i buy this:
https://www.obd2cartool.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1492

I would recommend https://es.aliexpress.com/store/product/2018-VCDS-VAG-COM-17-1-3-VAGCOM-17-1-USB-Interface-FOR-VW-AUDI-Skoda/4997300_33002811367.html?spm=a219c.search0104.3.50 .7d712181ARB06b&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10065_10 068_10547_319_10891_317_10548_10696_10084_453_454_ 10083_10618_10307_10820_10821_10301_10303_537_536_ 10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_16 ,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=8b03e2cd-d32e-4605-98be-78f4e60cfec3-8&algo_pvid=8b03e2cd-d32e-4605-98be-78f4e60cfec3&transAbTest=ae803_5

[liviudiaconu]

If read carefully even on title write Atmega 162, on your recomendation link write:

1. No se puede actualizar - that mean Cannot update
So, big "chance" to be without At162.
Stop recommend shits.

[hid3]

Personally I've had negative experience with that Autox431 shop (which seems to be the monopoly in Ali due to some reason) but let's assume it was just my bad luck.
While the cable indeed may be with ATmega inside, this doesn't mean anything. There still may be fake FT232R* chip (no markings), transistors driven k/l-lines, no protective diode, no GAL, no programming header etc etc etc.
I can't understand why people still want to take a risk seeking for some new discoveres meanwhile when the wheel is already invented.

[kaalis]

Even more... no pictures from actual board, go away and choose something else as seller is trying to hide the most valuable details.
Want to buy vcds cable but get a dead cat in bag? Then this is perfect cable. :biggrin:

[bg17aw]

As some posted above, to be sure you get a good cable, get one that:

- mentions the chips in the title/description, example: "ATMEGA162+16V8+FT232RQ"

- shows a picture of the PCB, both sides, with all the chipsets present and a programming header, see example

- maybe shows a picture of the programming header interface connecter, see example

Or just buy from the stores recommended here, for peace of mind

[bg17aw]

I would recommend https://es.aliexpress.com/store/product/2018-VCDS-VAG-COM-17-1-3-VAGCOM-17-1-USB-Interface-FOR-VW-AUDI-Skoda/4997300_33002811367.html?spm=a219c.search0104.3.50 .7d712181ARB06b&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10065_10 068_10547_319_10891_317_10548_10696_10084_453_454_ 10083_10618_10307_10820_10821_10301_10303_537_536_ 10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_16 ,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=8b03e2cd-d32e-4605-98be-78f4e60cfec3-8&algo_pvid=8b03e2cd-d32e-4605-98be-78f4e60cfec3&transAbTest=ae803_5
that's actually a risky one, no pictures of the PCB and 0% score!

How come this is not marked as spam, but my link to a cable that actually shows the PCB and everything, was marked as spam?

It is impossible to be considered spam as I posted two choices anyway, from two different sellers.

Is there a way to contest the spam report? I feel it was totally unfair.

[muscles1960]

I would recommend https://es.aliexpress.com/store/product/2018-VCDS-VAG-COM-17-1-3-VAGCOM-17-1-USB-Interface-FOR-VW-AUDI-Skoda/4997300_33002811367.html?spm=a219c.search0104.3.50 .7d712181ARB06b&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10065_10 068_10547_319_10891_317_10548_10696_10084_453_454_ 10083_10618_10307_10820_10821_10301_10303_537_536_ 10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_16 ,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=8b03e2cd-d32e-4605-98be-78f4e60cfec3-8&algo_pvid=8b03e2cd-d32e-4605-98be-78f4e60cfec3&transAbTest=ae803_5

Honestly, and speaking from experience, I'd avoid Aliexpress at all costs. Their cables are sub-standard as noted by many experienced users on this site.

[Roma77]

I have very good news friends, the obd2cartool store and special thanks to Julie (great2obd) efforts, for all users of our forum there is a special link to 2 products with a big discount and free shipping DIY VAG / VAG V2 Choose option one or option two.
And now think for yourself what to buy: a quality product for a good price with a guarantee and technical support or shit with Ali.

Option 1:

Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader - 19.12 Euro


Option 2:

HEX-V2 DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RQ + 9241 + 16V8B +ATA6561 cable with Bootloader - 26.97 Evro

https://www.obd2cartool.com/vip-customer-link-classic-v1hex-v2-diy-programming-cable-for-digital-kaos-members-p-1209?zenid=p6ha6dh7md91gh1jgm4016dpr2Euro

[hid3]

The only things I can add to what Roma said is that these two offers come with fast shipping (usually 15 days to most EU countries) and that these guys have lots of more good automotice stuff at their shop ( http://obd2cartool.com/ )

[bg17aw]

Now I regret ordering from Ali... Ordered another one. There is a charge for paying with paypal, but still best offer considering the fast shipping.
Will report back when I get it.

[Roma77]

Now I regret ordering from Ali... Ordered another one. There is a charge for paying with paypal, but still best offer considering the fast shipping.
Will report back when I get it.
I am very pleased that we have brought to you about the difference in the quality and price of the goods, of course you will be able to appreciate the quality when you receive it, prepare the package Kolimer 7.2, flash and enjoy.
And I am pleased to see that you are not writing two posts in a row, if you need to add something just click the edit button, thanks.

[Mario6]

I bought from OBD2cartool 3 vcd$ interfaces. One very very recently. The first came after 18 days. He worked well. I have updated it from 18.2.0 to 18.9.0. The only minus is a very hard usb cable. I am waiting for the second 33 days. I do not know how long I will be waiting for the third.

I also had many cables from aliexpres and they all worked. I think the basis is a good job, not a look.

I use a cable from aliexpres, bought in 2016 as 16.8.3. Works with 18.9.0 AKP/EN and with 18.9.1EN.

Thanks bg17aw (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/641986-bg17aw)

[Roma77]

I bought from OBD2cartool 3 vcd$ interfaces. One very very recently. The first came after 18 days. He worked well. I have updated it from 18.2.0 to 18.9.0. The only minus is a very hard usb cable. I am waiting for the second 33 days. I do not know how long I will be waiting for the third. I also had many cables from aliexpres and they all worked. I think the basis is a good job, not a look.
I agree, the appearance does not matter if the circuitry of the board and the components and soldering are done qualitatively, the board can be shoved into the cardboard box and it will work, but you see users complaining that Ali has recently sold a lot of boards with poor-quality components and bad circuitry and loudly calling it V2 :)
In my opinion, creating these two products for our forum OBD2cartool has made the best offers on the market in terms of price - quality, support, warranty.

[Mario6]

Yes it's true. It's hard to buy equipment that is compatible with the description on aliexpres. Earlier, I saw on the aliexpress site with a large price informing about the differences between HEX-CAN and Hex V2.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VCDS-17-8-HEX-V2-Made-in-China-is-Not-Real-HEX-V2-you-can-check/33002589451.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.182.51d4105 f6TPTAN&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10065_10 068_10843_319_10059_10884_317_10887_10696_321_322_ 453_10084_454_10083_10103_10618_10304_10307_10820_ 10301_10821_537_536,searchweb201603_6,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=9e220e3d-c229-4991-9421-bdc390eb76c3-30&algo_pvid=9e220e3d-c229-4991-9421-bdc390eb76c3&transAbTest=ae803_3

Another example is OP COM for Opel. All reportedly have a PIC 18F458 chip but few of them support FW change. Just lottery.

[bg17aw]

I am waiting for the second 33 days. I do not know how long I will be waiting for the third.
so no tracking number at obd2ct?

I ordered mine yesterday, no shipping info yet. Hope to get it sooner than the one I ordered from Ali though, this was the reason I ordered it (people saying obd2 delivers in about 15-20 days)

[alexm1]

In a few days you will see on Status section- will apear track nr ; about time delivery, I never get my package, earlier than 35 days, but there are a lot of causes that can prolong delivery time.

[Mario6]

I have this information about the shipment.



03/13/2019
Delivered
Hello, dear customer, thank you for shopping with us. your tracking number is VR057xxxxx5YP , you can check on http://www.yw56.com.cn/, it should take 7-45 business days to reach your destination. if you have any quesion welcome contact with skype: great2obd, After sell service: obd2cartool@outlook.com . thnx.^_^ Regards from www.obd2cartool.com

[Roma77]

I do not know who I ordered twice, both parcels came in 12 days. Probably, someone also depends on the destination country. The third is on the way for 13 days, but I know that from April 5 to 7 there were weekend 3 days in China (Memorial Day of the Dead), please consider not only the weekend in your country, but also in the country of the sender, the store will process and send the order within 2-3 days and then everything depends on the carrier in different countries; different schedules for sending mail to one country can be 10 flights to another only 2 per month if the parcel arrived just in time for sending to your country quickly or waiting for the next flight.
P.S. Do not hesitate to indicate your country in the profile on our forum - be proud of your country.

[predki]

Hello, I have a problem with vcds. the system can not see it. pid and vid 0000. How do you fix it, go back to ft612874

[Roma77]

Hello, I have a problem with vcds. the system can not see it. pid and vid 0000. How do you fix it, go back to ft612874
With the help of this set and pictures, you can restore it, I had to do it several times, everything will be fine if you create the instructions correctly.

[Mario6]

predki (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/593965-predki)


You can try this too. EPT take from V 7.2.

[Jerak]

My USBasp came yesterday and my VCDS 17.1 is updated to 18.2.0 x64. :proud:

Is there any way to remove the software out of date popup?


It is not too important, i am just asking.

[predki]

It does not go as you wrote colleagues. all the time a problem. You can not run this device code 10 .Windows do not want pid and vid 0000 a little strange should be some other numbers?

[Mario6]

Yes. Undo the date on the laptop up to the release date of vcd$18.2.0.

[Mario6]

I have a question. Does anyone have a working VCD$ 18.9.1 AKP version?

bg17aw (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/641986-bg17aw)

Thank you for the link to the EN version.

[bg17aw]

My USBasp came yesterday and my VCDS 17.1 is updated to 18.2.0 x64. :proud:

Is there any way to remove the software out of date popup?
It is not too important, i am just asking.

Yes. Just use 18.9.0 or 18.9.1

[predki]

https://s10.ifotos.pl/mini/vcdjpg_qspqxph.jpg (https://ifotos.pl/z/qspqxph/)Hello . It can be fixed so it shows in windows.

[Roma77]

https://s10.ifotos.pl/mini/vcdjpg_qspqxph.jpg (https://ifotos.pl/z/qspqxph/)Hello . It can be fixed so it shows in windows.
The archive that I gave you above restores serviceable scanner with a bad pid xxxх vid xxxx
In your case there may be physical problems with both the D+, D- cable and the 232 chip or its strapping components. (flashing IC 93cXX for 232BM,BL)
after recovery, you need a driver for USB <--> Serial vid 0403 pid 6001 (google search for your system)
If you want I can try to help you on timeweaver 14
If this suits you, send me an ID and password in private messages
Just please publish the photos of your PCB from two sides in good quality, I need to know what's inside.
A request to all who need help, the more you write the information for whatever reason the scanner broke and give good photo cards on both sides, the faster other users will tell you how to fix it.

[da78n]

https://i.imgur.com/AH4y5oC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CudCCMH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/oXRNLA3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1B4zH8r.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7cBtb6I.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4RuTpmc.jpg




I need help to restore my interface.
I had FW 1.94 & HW 0x46.

After disconnecting the STC chip i flashed the interface with USBasp (loaded the project from archive) and the result was ok.

If i start the VCDS on the desk (not in the car) i receive Interface Found, Type Ross-Tech HEX-USB and Licence status Invalid / Unauthorized.
If i start the VCDS connected to the car i receive Interface Not Found and Licence status Invalid / Unauthorized.

VAGCOM_HWType.exe is reporting ok FW 1.96 & HW 0x46.
VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe is not working so only USBasp programming is working.

Where is the problem ?

[alexm1]

Did I missed the part about the loader???? Or you did not use it?


L.E.
About VAGCOM_HWType.exe, I think you have a old version, the last vers. can choose automatic VID/PID and I think here is the part where you are mesing things wrong

[da78n]

I used the loader v7.2
But i also tested the VCDS-Release-18.9.1.

[alexm1]

...and I do not see the pics with PCB with the side where Atmega is placed

[da78n]

https://i.imgur.com/tvtQQKG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/h7fylyq.jpg

[alexm1]

Can you see it in Dev Manager after usb is plugged in? Rigth click on it Properties& Hardware Id

[da78n]

Yes, it's in Device Manager.

https://i.imgur.com/AbELFIW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/h7fylyq.jpg

[liviudiaconu]

@dan78: Your AVR nothing wrote.
Let me explain: Your settings are F9DCCD. In the right side is the same? If YES..NOT OK.
That mean you set "44" version. Even you opened "46" inside programmer. If the writing is OK on HWType you must obtain in this case "44" or "wrong info".
One by another, your descriptor is RossUSA. Wrong! K0l1 use another descriptor.
So, you did something wrong!
My advice is desolder IC8 and D7 and after try again.

L.E. First photo i see wires from programmes fixed with rubber-band.
In second atmega photo i don't see on pins 1-4 soldering-trace. So..where you soldered programmer's wires?
1-4 = MOSI-MISO-SCK-RESET.

[da78n]

ATMEGA pin 1: MOSI ( pin 1 on USBasp )
ATMEGA pin 2: MISO ( pin 9 on USBasp )
ATMEGA pin 3: SCK ( pin 7 on USBasp )
ATMEGA pin 4: RESET ( pin 5 on USBasp )

I zoomed the picture so wires can be visible now.

After flashing the FW version changed from 94 to 96 (so something got inside ATmega i guess).

And Progisp reported Erase, Writte flash, Verify Flash, Write Eeprom, Verify Eeprom, Write fuse, Lock chip, Successfully Done!

I will recheck those bits and try to reflash again.

https://i.imgur.com/sOAavJO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kq59fiK.jpg

[da78n]

I tried to program again now using the AVRdude.
The result:
https://i.imgur.com/oJiw0Bo.jpg?1


And again with Progisp v1.72
The result:
https://i.imgur.com/AH4y5oC.jpg


And again with AVRdude.
avrdude -p m162 -c usbasp -e -U flash:w:Flash1.96_HW_0x46.bin:r -U eeprom:w:eepromavr_HW_0x46.bin:r
-U lock:w:0x3f:m
-U efuse:w:0xf9:m
-U hfuse:w:0xda:m
-U lfuse:w:0xcd:m

The result:
https://i.imgur.com/HfA0CB8.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/k860tRJ.jpg


But the VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe is still not working.

https://i.imgur.com/YXHsrzI.jpg

[Jerak]

Yes. Undo the date on the laptop up to the release date of vcd$18.2.0.
Yah, can't do that. Ok thanks


Yes. Just use 18.9.0 or 18.9.1
So when Ross updates the popup will return?

[Roma77]

I tried to program again now using the AVRdude.
The result:
And again with Progisp v1.72
The result:
And again with AVRdude.
avrdude -p m162 -c usbasp -e -U flash:w:Flash1.96_HW_0x46.bin:r -U eeprom:w:eepromavr_HW_0x46.bin:r
-U lock:w:0x3f:m
-U efuse:w:0xf9:m
-U hfuse:w:0xda:m
-U lfuse:w:0xcd:m

The result:
But the VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe is still not working.


1 photo - an eeprom empty atmel162, 2 photos - an eeprom repaired, 3 photos - its eeprom is correctly sewn. Will you delete IC8 or will it be a problem.

[da78n]

So you suggest to completely remove the IC8 (STC), to unsolder him from the board ?
The interface is working without the STC or i have to solder him again after writing the firmware?
What is that STC doing ?

[Roma77]

So you suggest to completely remove the IC8 (STC), to unsolder him from the board ?
The interface is working without the STC or i have to solder him again after writing the firmware?
What is that STC doing ?
Delete it and throw it far away, it restores eeprom Atmega162 and does not allow to work firmware
liviudiaconu (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/161166-liviudiaconu)
wrote to you to remove them, and do not forget to remove the diode D7

[liviudiaconu]

IF (REMEMBER only IF) Avr write CORECTLY AVR ATMRGA162 then you will obtain in HWType 46 and ROSS TECH 46
IF (REMEMBER only IF) this happend and IF CDDAFF(or CDDAF9CC) then USB Writer must write correctly by USB k0l1 flash and eeprom.
IF NOT..something is wrong. OR..IF after exclude STC (IC8 ) and D9 the same ..probably FT232R is damaged.
As i see you do something wrong or STC is damaged or put short-circuit on FT. If i have that cable in my hands will be more easy. "At the distance" is dificult to repair...
And YES, i suggest TO ALL exclude STC and D9. Not always that not let communicate FT232-16V8-Atmel...but time to time..is happend,,randomly. "Howgh!!!" - as Winnetou said:barscarf:

[da78n]

https://i.imgur.com/gJJHcc7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/msdTx5i.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZtpLOlK.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DecxP1Z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/AhnYN8e.jpg

I removed IC8 and D7.
Flashed the interface with AVRdude.
Everithing looks ok

Tried VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe and it's working.
After USB update with VAGCOM_EEWriteLang.exe VCDS also requested and did firmware update.

I will test it tomorrow on the car since now is too late but it looks good.

Thank you all for the support.

PS: will it work with VCDS-Release-18.9.1 or must use only VCDS-Release-18.9.0 ?

[alexm1]

Will work only with 18.9.0. Maybe in the near future this "problem" will be solved by Kolimer .

[Toljanoss]

Here is the link for downloading the VCDS 18.9.0 installation in Czech.


https://uloz.to/!Uspjvr6r07zo/vcds-18-9-0-cz-zip
Link doesn`t work any more.
Can somebody upload it once more?

[zakdk]

Hi thanks for the 2 option link my last one was a ebay vcds 12.12 still working ,but would like to get a another one .Whats the difference between the 2 options and which one is better many thanks !!

[zakdk]

Hi thanks for the 2 option link my last one was a ebay vcds 12.12 still working ,but would like to get a another one .Whats the difference between the 2 options and which one is better many thanks !!


I have very good news friends, the obd2cartool store and special thanks to Julie (great2obd) efforts, for all users of our forum there is a special link to 2 products with a big discount and free shipping DIY VAG / VAG V2 Choose option one or option two.
And now think for yourself what to buy: a quality product for a good price with a guarantee and technical support or shit with Ali.

Option 1:

Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader - 19.12 Euro


Option 2:

HEX-V2 DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RQ + 9241 + 16V8B +ATA6561 cable with Bootloader - 26.97 Evro

https://www.obd2cartool.com/vip-customer-link-classic-v1hex-v2-diy-programming-cable-for-digital-kaos-members-p-1209?zenid=p6ha6dh7md91gh1jgm4016dpr2Euro

[Roma77]

Hi thanks for the 2 option link my last one was a ebay vcds 12.12 still working ,but would like to get a another one .Whats the difference between the 2 options and which one is better many thanks !!
if you are not hampered by the budget, then I advise option 2, but the first one also works fine.
Only consider that both options are calculated on the fact that you will use the Kolimer package for firmware.
you can see the difference between them by clicking on the link option 1 option 2 click here


There is also another news friends, I read on the forums that the diagnostics of cars of new 2017-2019, if the scanner does not see all the blocks, you need to open the hood.
Request to forum users to check who has the opportunity and unsubscribe here.

[psgpol]

hi, i want to ask did you test yours 18.2.1/18.9 vcds with CAN car?

I bought cable from this guy: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/VAG-COM-18-2-1-VAGCOM-18-9-0-VCDS-HEX-CAN-USB-Interface-FOR-VW/2403101_32999220864.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356 .10.28c64e18ReHu8B

cable came with vcds 18.2.1polish/18.9ENG and with vcds_loader ver7 and of course vcds 18.2.1 AKP polish or 18.9 english could be registered (OPTIONS->TEST->SAVE k1=ok k2=ok CAN=Ok) but it works only with car equipped in KKL line but any car which has got CAN can't be connected without error communication info.

I'm getting communication errors windows each time i want to scan/autoscan or direct access any car's component,
i have got older version 17.1.3polish/17.8ENG from same guy and this version with different older loader works OK
please answer:
1.did you test your 18.2.1 polish / 18.9 ENG with any CAN/UDS car ?
2. can i check using some tools which versions of "firmware" has got my cable ?

[Roma77]

hi, i want to ask did you test yours 18.2.1/18.9 vcds with CAN car?

I bought cable from this guy: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/VAG-COM-18-2-1-VAGCOM-18-9-0-VCDS-HEX-CAN-USB-Interface-FOR-VW/2403101_32999220864.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356 .10.28c64e18ReHu8B

cable came with vcds 18.2.1polish/18.9ENG and with vcds_loader ver7 and of course vcds 18.2.1 AKP polish or 18.9 english could be registered (OPTIONS->TEST->SAVE k1=ok k2=ok CAN=Ok) but it works only with car equipped in KKL line but any car which has got CAN can't be connected without error communication info.

I'm getting communication errors windows each time i want to scan/autoscan or direct access any car's component,
i have got older version 17.1.3polish/17.8ENG from same guy and this version with different older loader works OK
please answer:
1.did you test your 18.2.1 polish / 18.9 ENG with any CAN/UDS car ?
2. can i check using some tools which versions of "firmware" has got my cable ?



Well, here's another shit with Ali)), you can find and download everything you need for this scanner to work on this forum, everything works fine, read carefully the info file in the archive.
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3444869&viewfull=1#post3444869

if you have a multimeter stop the resistance at 6 and 14 pin OBD should be 120om
If this does not help, try to remove, replace the diode that I noted in the photo.
https://prnt.sc/ne3rqa

[bg17aw]

There is also another news friends, I read on the forums that the diagnostics of cars of new 2017-2019, if the scanner does not see all the blocks, you need to open the hood.
Request to forum users to check who has the opportunity and unsubscribe here.
What I have found is this, but I did not test it yet:

"Hey Guys,i found out that MQB Cars are still codeable and readable with a HEX CAN Cable.
There is just a verification on the new VCDS Software.

To readout newer MQB Modell cars you need to:
1. Turn on ignition
2. Do autoscan on the car
3. Turn off the ignition
4. Select the desired Module
5. Turn on the ignition

With this you bypass VCDS to readout the Cars modellyear and
all information will be still displayed.

I think they just put this to sell new HEX V2 Cables"

[Roma77]

What I have found is this, but I did not test it yet:

"Hey Guys,i found out that MQB Cars are still codeable and readable with a HEX CAN Cable.
There is just a verification on the new VCDS Software.

To readout newer MQB Modell cars you need to:
1. Turn on ignition
2. Do autoscan on the car
3. Turn off the ignition
4. Select the desired Module
5. Turn on the ignition

With this you bypass VCDS to readout the Cars modellyear and
all information will be still displayed.

I think they just put this to sell new HEX V2 Cables"
I know about this thanks, but at this moment we are talking about raising the hood for diagnosis (Toureg, Q7 and so on 2017-19 )

[Toljanoss]

hi, i want to ask did you test yours 18.2.1/18.9 vcds with CAN car?.....



You should use with 18.9 vcds loader v.7.2

[jakuza]

From VCDS Germany distributor...

Important NOTE:
Due to a bug in the current VCDS 18.9 resetting the service interval in the control unit 17 is not possible. In this case, we recommend you to downgrade to the VCDS 17.8 until the bug in the next VCDS version has been corrected.

[Jerak]

I know about this thanks, but at this moment we are talking about raising the hood for diagnosis (Toureg, Q7 and so on)



From VCDS Germany distributor...

Important NOTE:
Due to a bug in the current VCDS 18.9 resetting the service interval in the control unit 17 is not possible. In this case, we recommend you to downgrade to the VCDS 17.8 until the bug in the next VCDS version has been corrected.

I just reset the Service Reminder and Distance and Time based Service reminders with 17-Adaptation 10 on a 2014 Touareg with VCDS 18.2 and the classic cable.
I don't know about the newer model Touareg though.

[bg17aw]

we are talking about raising the hood for diagnosis (Toureg, Q7 and so on 2017-19 )
sorry, not sure what that means

[Roma77]

sorry, not sure what that means
I will try to explain, but it seems that because of a bad translation, not everyone understands me. Some cars of 2017-2019 year can not be diagnosed normally until you open the hood, it turned out after connecting the VCP(vag can pro) there is a hint OPEN PLEASE THE HOOD FOR DIAGNOSTICS. After opening the hood vcd$ worked well with such cars.
I think that the sensor of the closed hood does not allow the 19th unit (CAN) to switch to the diagnostic mode.

This also applies to vehicles in which the automatic locking mode is activated when the driver's door is closed or if the key is inserted in the ignition for door diagnostics should be unlocked.

[bubsterboo]

Hey Guys,

I bought a cable from Aliexpress a while back. I couldn't get it to work with the stock firmware it came with.
Somewhere else online I found VCDSLoader_v2. I flashed the firmware and the cable started working.
However, the cable is very flaky. It works for a few seconds and I can get a single scan or sometimes no scans done before I start getting comunication errors. Unplugging and plugging the USB cable back in gets me back where it may work or may not work.

Wondering if this is a hardware issue or if there's anything I can do to improve the reliability of the cable.
I will try the latest VCDSLoader and see if that helps.

Thanks!
613695613696

[hid3]

Looks like it's got fake FTDI chip along with fake MCP's... Nothing unusual for a cable from Aliexpress, you get what you pay for.

[bronec10]

I received the package after 18 days "18 day The item has been delivered successfully"




I ordered at the recommendation of a user here on the forum and I am very grateful


I want to thank her for all your help,this gentleman is very good so thank you

[bubsterboo]

Looks like it's got fake FTDI chip along with fake MCP's... Nothing unusual for a cable from Aliexpress, you get what you pay for.
Okay. When I plug it into my linux computer i get kernel USB communication errors. I guess it must indeed be a fake dodgy FTDI chip.
I've ordered the recommended one from obd2cartool. So hopefully that arrives soon and I can have a reliable cable.
Out of curiosity. How can you tell it's a fake FTDI? I know that's common, and it seems to be the cause of my problems, so I don't doubt it.

The FTDI chip does have markings on it. But they're not very pronounced.
613837

Thanks!

Edit: Comparing the markings to an FTDI chip on my BUS pirate it's definitely not the same. Yeah must be fake.

[predki]

WHICH IS BETTER613883613884

[Roma77]

WHICH IS BETTER613883613884
definitely photo 1, photo 2 bad cable (resistor assembly instead of logic and transistors instead of microcircuits along K L lines)

[bubsterboo]

Okay. When I plug it into my linux computer i get kernel USB communication errors. I guess it must indeed be a fake dodgy FTDI chip.
I've ordered the recommended one from obd2cartool. So hopefully that arrives soon and I can have a reliable cable.
Out of curiosity. How can you tell it's a fake FTDI? I know that's common, and it seems to be the cause of my problems, so I don't doubt it.

The FTDI chip does have markings on it. But they're not very pronounced.
613837

Thanks!

Edit: Comparing the markings to an FTDI chip on my BUS pirate it's definitely not the same. Yeah must be fake.

I replaced the FTDI chip with a genuine one from a uart board i had lying around. Flashed the FTDI chip and the Atmega and now HWType and EEWriteLange work and 18.9.0 works reliably too!
Thanks for the help!

[Syrxes]

Hey, been using \/AG189 cable from obd2cartool. And recently when I connect cable to my pc it doesn't work anymore, in device manager i get Unknown USB device (Device descriptor request failed). Any ideas?

[alexm1]

Let.s repeat what many other s allready write on this topic: ad some pics with your pcb and then share your problems. We can not guess what is inside your cable...

[hid3]

First thing, use multimeter to make sure each and every wire of USB is still intact and not broken

[predki]

witaj, gdy uruchamiasz vcds przez program ładujący coś takiego614081

[Syrxes]

My bad. Here are the photos. Thanks
614089614091

[Roma77]

predki (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/593965-predki) Is the program on drive C? what windows?
Have you solved the problem with the chip or is it a different cable?

[predki]

Hello, I had a message before the cable was damaged. yes everything is on the C drive. I have installed the system from scratch and it is the same. I have other cables, solder ftdi

[Roma77]

Hello, I had a message before the cable was damaged. yes everything is on the C drive. I have installed the system from scratch and it is the same. I have other cables, solder ftdi
I had such an error when I wanted to run version 19.1 with bootloader 7.2 :peaceful:, look at everything that indicates that the problem is not the correct version or driver.

[liviudiaconu]

19.1? 19.1 beta not work with HEX-CAN, only V2.

[muscles1960]

To be clear, only Genuine V2 can run beta software.

[v6tom]

Hey, I bought some rear led lights for my A5, I have adapter cables and codeing instructions but cant find a good vcds cable with soft. my cars 2012 so 12.12.3 should do?
Sorry noob here, I have read through alot of this thread but most links seem dead. and this dose get confusing after a while.

[Roma77]

Hey, I bought some rear led lights for my A5, I have adapter cables and codeing instructions but cant find a good vcds cable with soft. my cars 2012 so 12.12.3 should do?
Sorry noob here, I have read through alot of this thread but most links seem dead. and this dose get confusing after a while.

For DK forum users
Option 1:
Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader - 19.12 Euro
Option 2:
HEX-V2 DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RQ + 9241 + 16V8B +ATA6561 cable with Bootloader - 26.97 Evro

https://www.obd2cartool.com/vip-cust...gh1jgm4016dpr2 (https://www.obd2cartool.com/vip-customer-link-classic-v1hex-v2-diy-programming-cable-for-digital-kaos-members-p-1209?zenid=p6ha6dh7md91gh1jgm4016dpr2)

EThis cable at a special price for our forum is intended for those who want to and can flash their scanner on the version it needs, if you are not confident in your abilities, then buy the finished cable of the desired version and language from the same link.

[v6tom]

For DK forum users
Option 1:
Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader - 19.12 Euro
Option 2:
HEX-V2 DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RQ + 9241 + 16V8B +ATA6561 cable with Bootloader - 26.97 Evro

https://www.obd2cartool.com/vip-cust...gh1jgm4016dpr2 (https://www.obd2cartool.com/vip-customer-link-classic-v1hex-v2-diy-programming-cable-for-digital-kaos-members-p-1209?zenid=p6ha6dh7md91gh1jgm4016dpr2)E

Thanks! It says I will need to flash my own EEPROM? how hard is this to do?

" * Comes with no specific EEPROM (must write on your own)"

[hid3]

While you'll be waiting for your cable, please do your homework and read the thread.
If you really want your LEDs installed, I'm sure you'll find out every bit of detail :)

[Roma77]

Thanks! It says I will need to flash my own EEPROM? how hard is this to do?

" * Comes with no specific EEPROM (must write on your own)"
today or tomorrow I will post a full video of how to use the 7.2 kolimer package, how to flash ft232 and how to flash atmega 162 into necessary language
hid3 wrote you correctly, until you get the cable you will know what to do with it

[v6tom]

Thanks for the help so far guys, I will take time to read this thread. but it has god 546 pages lol I dont know how much will be relevant
I just purchased the Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader - 19.12 Euro cable! I assume all the files will be included with the cable? or can i download them now so i can prepare?
Roma, Will the video explain all I need to know?

[Roma77]

Thanks for the help so far guys, I will take time to read this thread. but it has god 546 pages lol I dont know how much will be relevant
I just purchased the Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader - 19.12 Euro cable! I assume all the files will be included with the cable? or can i download them now so i can prepare?
Roma, Will the video explain all I need to know?

There is no CD-ROM with the cable, everything will be clear in the video more precisely, not video, but animation, video RT removes from video hosting sites., I hope, if something is in question for this and there is this forum, you can ask the working version of the software with the language you need in this thread and you will be given a link where to download.
This cable at a special price for our forum is intended for those who want to and can flash their scanner on the version it needs, if you are not confident in your abilities, then buy the finished cable of the desired version and language from the same link.

[v6tom]

Is it like flashing something with a audino? If so I should be able to do it

[jan4]

usbasp if needed

[v6tom]

will i need it for the Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader - 19.12 Euro

[Roma77]

will i need it for the Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader - 19.12 Euro

No, you don’t have a cable yet, and how many questions already, wait for the video, it’s best to see what to ask a hundred times.

[v6tom]

Sorry, I just dont want a cable turning up and then needing to buy and wait for a USBASP.....

[Roma77]

Sorry, I just dont want a cable turning up and then needing to buy and wait for a USBASP.....
https://prnt.sc/ngq8om

[Mario6]

v6tom (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/648779-v6tom)

I received today. After reprogramming via usb works well with 18.9.0 AKP, 18.9.0 EN, 18.9.1EN. I think that with other language versions too.


(A little long delivery of 42 days and a hard usb cable)

https://www.obd2cartool.com/vagcom-1684-full-active-vcds-1684-diy-vag-com-1684-can-reprogram-language-and-version-p-1266?zenid=9k8mbqjtdl8v43ntkn3nen2sn3&zenid=9k8mbqjtdl8v43ntkn3nen2sn3

[Roma77]

The package of kolimer 7.2 and the English working version 18.9.1 can be downloaded here https://m.mega.dp.ua/7YMa

[v6tom]

Thanks for the video, I understand that and tbh docent look like a hard thing to do! When you flashed the custom firmware, It said connect to 12V so dose this mean you have to hook it up to a bench power supply? or can you just plug it into the cars obd2 for the 12V?

[barrn]

Hi Guys,

What is the quality like on this cable:
https://www.obd2cartool.com/atmega-vag-hexv2-vag-1890-usb-interface-vcds-hex-v2-full-actived-free-shipping-p-1554?zenid=9k8mbqjtdl8v43ntkn3nen2sn3

is this a good cable to buy and flash, anyone know if it will require USBASP or can be USB.
I have all the files downloaded from Kolimer, notice in the listing itself says greetings to Kolimer.

If any better cables, let me know.

Thanks!

[HG7]

Hi.
Anyone has a link to download VCDS-AKP-18.9.0 Polish ? Thanks

[rak183]

Friends,
im locking for last working german vcds drv. Thanks.

[Tib82]

Thanks for the video, I understand that and tbh docent look like a hard thing to do! When you flashed the custom firmware, It said connect to 12V so dose this mean you have to hook it up to a bench power supply? or can you just plug it into the cars obd2 for the 12V?
It's up to you. Both are working :)
You can use an average 12V power supply (like this (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/12-Volts-Power-Supply-DC12V-1A-2A-3A-5A-6A-8A-10A-Power-Adapter-Transformer-AC/32973091924.html)) or a bench power supply, or just plug it into your car's ODB2 port and turn on the ignition.

[v6tom]

Ahh I have a few dc plugs kicking about. I guess I will

[hid3]

Anyone have old/broken VCDS interfaces which are not needed or not used anymore and willing to ship it to me for spare parts? I'd cover the shipping costs.
PM me.

Thank you.

[Chupstar]

Hello,

sorry if my english isn´t perfect ;)

I have an alixpress caple, it came along with 18.2 and it worked perfectly on my MY 2018 Leon Cupra.

I have a new car since yesterday (MY2019 Octavia) and I think 18.2 was too old (Label-Files for most of the modules are missing).

So I installed 18.9.1 and Loader v7.2. In checked the cable with the tool provided and flashed it. After that I could update it from 1.95 to 1.96 with VCDS.

After connecting it to the car and doing the Test it always says "Can not ready". I have read this thread but I didn´t find the solution.

Can someone please explain what to do step by step? As I saif, the cable itself worked perfectly before with 18.2. Thx :)

[alexm1]

Try with version 18.9.0, will work.

[kaalis]

Or 18.9.1 from january.
Check installer's digital signature.

https://i.imgur.com/lYEiLnS.png

[ganobi]

Hi.
Anyone has a link to download VCDS-AKP-18.9.0 Polish ? Thanks
link.
łap.
http://uploadfile.pl/pokaz/1719876---7xv2.html
:tears_of_joy:

[HG7]

Thank you ganobi for the link

[AreckiA3]

Hi, I have unfortunately bought my VCDS 18.9.0 cable on ali before I found this forum and that is why I am here now.

I have problem with connecting to modules in my car (Audi A3 2015):
615914

But as I have noticed, the ROD file names are invalid. There are always 2 chars swapped (randomly):
615915

And here is my cable:
615563615564

So this is version with ATMega162, that can be flashed.

Do you think this can be fixed?
Or maybe this is due to MQB platform that cause none of the cable works except original HEX V2/NET?

I have also some suspicious regarding MCP2515 chip as it has no markings and can be fake.

I have been reading this topic for few days, but wasn't able to read all as it it quite long now, and haven't found such problem here.

[AreckiA3]

I do not know why some pictures were resized to non readable size.
Updated photos again.

[kaalis]

Must be too old loader version or too new 18.9.0 release for specific loader.
"No ROD file found" means that VCDS has detected you are using clone.
Find loader 7.2 and 18.9.1 from 2019 january. It can be done... How? It's all written in previous pages...

[baubau2006]

hi buddy, is this january (1st edition)?

cheers for sharing

[baubau2006]

The package of kolimer 7.2 and the English working version 18.9.1 can be downloaded here https://m.mega.dp.ua/7YMa


hi buddy, is this january (1st edition)?

cheers for sharing

[Tib82]

hi buddy, is this january (1st edition)?Yes, that is the first and working release :) If you're not sure, just check it's SHA1

18.9.1 ENG (20190114 DS296.0) v1: c9da064c588913c9773f6306d9bb03f9dced1108
18.9.1 ENG (20190114 DS296.0) v2: e247ce66ec07b69ccd3b52802745e05870f62947

[Gyula84]

Hi everyone
which is the latest version of loader? 7.2?

[SDfgdhfj]

Just use the search - Yes 7.2 is the newest

https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3444869#post3444869

[obdcarsale]

Hello everyone, he is a cheater! the cable free got form aliexpress. from Poland.

the info form facebook inside!Real event!

[hid3]

Hello everyone, he is a cheater! the cable free got form aliexpress. from Poland.

the info form facebook inside!Real event!

Hello,

could you please tell the exact name of the cheater who got it for free? We won't be tolerating cheating members and giving them NEGATIVE reputation instantly for cheating.

Thank you.

[elm329]

Hi Guys, i have VCDS cable

[elm329]

PCBA OF VCDS V189 615788

[kaalis]

What is the problem? Is it dead? Can't read last pages? Please, explain and don't doublepost.

[AreckiA3]

Must be too old loader version or too new 18.9.0 release for specific loader.
"No ROD file found" means that VCDS has detected you are using clone.
Find loader 7.2 and 18.9.1 from 2019 january. It can be done... How? It's all written in previous pages...
I wanted to test this cable with different versions of loader to find out what was originaly flashed there, but during tests I got "Interface not connected to the car" error, although it was connected.
So finaly I had to reflash completely this crappy cable with Loader V7.2 and install fresh 18.9.1 V1 (January). Now I got working cable. At least for now...

[hid3]

I wanted to test this cable with different versions of loader to find out what was originaly flashed there, but during tests I got "Interface not connected to the car" error, although it was connected.
So finaly I had to reflash completely this crappy cable with Loader V7.2 and install fresh 18.9.1 V1 (January). Now I got working cable. At least for now...

Was it you who got the cable from Aliexpress for free?

[AreckiA3]

Oh, I can see it is going to be very interesting.

First of all, I do not know who is this obdcarsale, but if someone is going to call me a cheater then he needs to give a prove, because public defamation is subject to a judicial punishment. It is not China but UK forum and UK is still in the European Union.

Secondly I have bought this cable from aliexpress like everybody, nothing is for free there.
I do not see any reason for giving an explanation here but I am doing it on my own will.

I have found this cable not working correctly, however as I am new in VAG (I have this car for a month now) I have wasted a lot of time struggling to find out what am I doing wrong. Moreover due to this broken cable I have disabled some functionality in my car as long coding was not working. Thanks God it wasn't so important for normal functioning of the car, so I didn't have to go to authorized service to fix it. I didn't get any solution from the seller so I got the refund. When I was looking for another cable, even original one, I have found information that there is an option to fix this. Then I wasted another few days till I found this forum and those useful information.

So in summary I didn't get this cable for free, I have paid for it as everybody, but finally I had to spent dozens of hours and break my car to make this cable working as seller does not give a sh*t what he is selling. This is also the reason this threat is over 500 pages long.

And finally, I do not want to point a cheater here, but I would like to see a permission from Ross-Tech LLC. for obdcarsale or any other aliexpress seller, to offer their products (hardware based on their design and software that is signed Ross-Tech name). Also permission from the developer of the Loader application they offer, to offer this product.

[ganobi]

Oh, I can see it is going to be very interesting.

First of all, I do not know who is this obdcarsale, but if someone is going to call me a cheater then he needs to give a prove, because public defamation is subject to a judicial punishment. It is not China but UK forum and UK is still in the European Union.

Secondly I have bought this cable from aliexpress like everybody, nothing is for free there.
I do not see any reason for giving an explanation here but I am doing it on my own will.

I have found this cable not working correctly, however as I am new in VAG (I have this car for a month now) I have wasted a lot of time struggling to find out what am I doing wrong. Moreover due to this broken cable I have disabled some functionality in my car as long coding was not working. Thanks God it wasn't so important for normal functioning of the car, so I didn't have to go to authorized service to fix it. I didn't get any solution from the seller so I got the refund. When I was looking for another cable, even original one, I have found information that there is an option to fix this. Then I wasted another few days till I found this forum and those useful information.

So in summary I didn't get this cable for free, I have paid for it as everybody, but finally I had to spent dozens of hours and break my car to make this cable working as seller does not give a sh*t what he is selling. This is also the reason this threat is over 500 pages long.

And finally, I do not want to point a cheater here, but I would like to see a permission from Ross-Tech LLC. for obdcarsale or any other aliexpress seller, to offer their products (hardware based on their design and software that is signed Ross-Tech name). Also permission from the developer of the Loader application they offer, to offer this product.

Embarrassing.

[radmorek]

Oh, I can see it is going to be very interesting.

First of all, I do not know who is this obdcarsale, but if someone is going to call me a cheater then he needs to give a prove, because public defamation is subject to a judicial punishment. It is not China but UK forum and UK is still in the European Union.

Secondly I have bought this cable from aliexpress like everybody, nothing is for free there.
I do not see any reason for giving an explanation here but I am doing it on my own will.

I have found this cable not working correctly, however as I am new in VAG (I have this car for a month now) I have wasted a lot of time struggling to find out what am I doing wrong. Moreover due to this broken cable I have disabled some functionality in my car as long coding was not working. Thanks God it wasn't so important for normal functioning of the car, so I didn't have to go to authorized service to fix it. I didn't get any solution from the seller so I got the refund. When I was looking for another cable, even original one, I have found information that there is an option to fix this. Then I wasted another few days till I found this forum and those useful information.

So in summary I didn't get this cable for free, I have paid for it as everybody, but finally I had to spent dozens of hours and break my car to make this cable working as seller does not give a sh*t what he is selling. This is also the reason this threat is over 500 pages long.

And finally, I do not want to point a cheater here, but I would like to see a permission from Ross-Tech LLC. for obdcarsale or any other aliexpress seller, to offer their products (hardware based on their design and software that is signed Ross-Tech name). Also permission from the developer of the Loader application they offer, to offer this product.

this is called phishing, You should return the goods to the seller if You have received refunds.

[Sinapsi]

Good morning guys.
I need your precious help.
In 4 days I practically read almost all the 500 and more pages of this 3D, but I can't solve my problem which I now expose to you (as precisely as possible).
A couple of weeks ago I bought a VAG cable and it arrived with minidisk (VCDS 18.9 EN-ITT with loader 7.0).
As per the instructions attached to the minidisk, I deactivated the internet connection and stopped AV and Defense (WIN7).
I launched the ITT installer. I also installed the driver correctly. At the end of the installation, I moved the Loader to the VCDS folder and launched it. Vcds has correctly opened with the 7.0 loader popup.
I connected the cable via USB to the PC and recognized it, recording and saving it.
It was already late and I disconnected everything and turned off the PC.
Back home, I turned the PC back on and, when I connected the cable to the PC via USB, it no longer recognized the cable (unrecognized USB device).
Contacted the seller, 'he washes his hands' saying that I blocked the cable.


Let's move on to the technical part.
thanks to this 3D, I'm trying to figure out how to fix this problem.
The cable, whatever I do is not recognized, neither from my PC nor from other PCs on which I put the driver.
The type of interface is visible in photos and, from the file info.pdf I discovered that it is the most recommended (it was just luck).
No program inserted in the loader (HWType, EEWriteLang, ProgIsp, etc etc) manages to detect it. The interface, when powered at 12v, but also at 5V via the programmer, lights up first in red then regularly switches to green.
I tried via USBISP to communicate via serial (MOSI / MISO / SCK / RST / VCC and GND) without success.
Where am I doing wrong ?
With the ATMEGAs I have a little bit of experience, but this time seems to be kidding me.


Thanks to anyone who can help me.

[AreckiA3]

this is called phishing, You should return the goods to the seller if You have received refunds.
Those disputes are managed by Aliexpress and there was no decision to return broken cable. Cost for the return is too big and no one wants to pay for it.

And don't be a hipocrite. Usage of hacked software is called theft.

Ouh, that is embarasing...


Sinapsi,
Check what VID&PID are detected in windows devices manager, probably those are erased, so you need to fix that with MProg application.
You should not need to flash ATMega if FTDI will be working again.
But regarding ATMega connection make sure all signals are connected correctly, because for me it looks invalid. Also make sure the power is supplied correctly (from programmer of from ATMega PCB). However if you connected ISP wires incorrect and reversed power supply, you could damage ATMega.

[Sinapsi]

Thanks for the quick reply.
it is completely unknown.
The ISP connection is correct (checked several times) but Mprog does not communicate with the ISP. Unless the pinout written in the info.pdf file is incorrect, or this card has a different pinout (after dinner check the tracks and connections with the ATMega)
It is not the first time that I use these programmers via ISP, but something like this has never happened to me.
Assuming I can get them to talk, what file should I upload from those available? There is more than one file for RT interfaces.

[Mario6]

Sinapsi (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/649111-Sinapsi)



Again check in "M.D" "Details" and "device instance ID" vid and pid. Then try this from post 1 or 2 (translate). I had a similar situation with OP-COM but I could not fix it. I bought the next one.
(But earlier, I've fixed the vcd$ and op-com several times (FTDI)

https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING/page542

[Sinapsi]

I had already tried to force the device with the RT driver. As soon as you apply the change, it warns you that the device is not working anyway.
keeping the forcing, I also tried MProg (it doesn't see anything connected) and even vidpidfix can't do anything.
it's incredible. How can an FT232R (original FTDI) lose data and, above all, no more input?

[rak183]

It seen that you have a clone ftdi chip. Its now dead. Desold it put a new one and it will works again.

[Sinapsi]

Is this a clone for you ?

[Tib82]

...
I tried via USBISP to communicate via serial (MOSI / MISO / SCK / RST / VCC and GND) without success.
...
Did you connected like this?
616515

[predki]

Sinapsi (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/649111-Sinapsi)

I have three cables so damaged. VID and PID alone 0000 tried everything, could not do it.

[Roma77]

I created a booth for checking and repairing scanners yesterday, it turned out great, I bought a CAN from the Passat B6 ($ 9), picked up an old battery from a laptop for three 18650 batteries (lay just like that for me) soldered crocodiles, I recommend it to anyone who needs offline testing (on the table)
Gateway power network connector:
food + 12v - 1.14
food - (weight) - 11
Tire for diagnostics H - 19 - for 6 pin diagnostic connector
L-9 Diagnostic Tire for 14 pin diagnostic connector
OBDII diagnostic connector:
food + 12v - 16
food - (weight) - 4
The tire for diagnostics of N - 6 - on 19 pin Gateway
The tire for diagnostics of L - 14 - on 9 pin Gateway

[rak183]

the problem is clear the FTDI Chip is broken. If y can not fix it with the tool from #8220, dann y have to change it.

[Roma77]

Sinapsi (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/649111-Sinapsi)


I have three cables so damaged. VID and PID alone 0000 tried everything, could not do it.
Do not forget that in different Windows systems there are different settings, there are systems that need a digital signature of the driver and settings in priority to search for drivers in the update center and install drivers for Windows and then the RT driver will be blocked and search in the center of Windows.
If you are not able to find a solution and want to repair on our forum there are masters from your country, contact them. If it’s really bad and easier to buy then give them to hid3 # 8193 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3562512&viewfull=1#post3562512)

[networkers]

the problem is clear the FTDI Chip is broken

What about something trivial: the USB cable?

[liviudiaconu]

Those disputes are managed by Aliexpress and there was no decision to return broken cable. Cost for the return is too big and no one wants to pay for it.

And don't be a hipocrite. Usage of hacked software is called theft.

Ouh, that is embarasing...
[...]


OK, the seller in your opinion is a thief.
You received the refund as Ali decide. After this you restore the clone. You knew from first moment is a clone, right? And bought as-is.
You use the soft from here. In fact a solution for the peoples having not much money for an original cable only for his car.
So, if your cable work well, correctly is to refund to seller at least some of the money. You did it?

I suppose not.
In this case, you accuse all for stolen soft but you use one.
You accuse seller for cheating but you?

About your person what can you say?
No need to answer us, it's just a rhetorical question.


Thanks for the quick reply.
it is completely unknown.
[...]

1. Check USB cable.
2. Desolder U10 from PCB.

If cable is 100% functional (can use an ohmmetter for continuity and too, with cable on PC's USB use an voltmetter for see if between RED and BLACK wires (USB cable) having 5V) and if after desolder U10 the clone still not recognized, FT232R must replaced.

[mattdj]

Hi guys I have interface with D79f8513 HW:0x44 but with bootloader disable can i upgrade this interface?

[liviudiaconu]

No, you can't

[mattdj]

Ok thanks you so much
Only Atmega162?

[liviudiaconu]

Yes, only Atmega162

[mikroel]

I just made update from 18.9.0 to 18.9.1
My interfaces are old (but very good) Ver 12.12 and 11.11 with transistors on K-line

Never had any problem with them.


So guys no need to search and spend money on new junk

Sent from my HONOR 8X

[hid3]

I just made update from 18.9.0 to 18.9.1
My interfaces are old (but very good) Ver 12.12 and 11.11 with transistors on K-line

Never had any problem with them.


So guys no need to search and spend money on new junk

Sent from my HONOR 8X

Well, yeah. But I wouldn't say they are very good with transistors driven K/L lines :)
IMHO currently the best available interfaces are "HEX-V2" sold in Obd2CarTool's shop - detachable USB cable, 1:1 original PCB layout, good chips, modern design...

[mikroel]

Before write bulshit you should learn little bit more

First of all that is not HEX-V2 at all[emoji1]

Second thing, transistors working very well, same as any other k- line special chip but you probably do not uderstand electronics very well.



Sent from my HONOR 8X

[hid3]

The only one writing bullshit is you.
I wrote "HEX-V2" in quotes because it's how the cable is labelled. Nobody is telling it's real HEX-V2. How should that one be called then?
Transistors in either case is "cheap setup" - they cost cheaper than controllers.
I wish you best luck with your old and the best cables and brilliant understanding in electronics.

[mikroel]

The only one writing bullshit is you.
I wrote "HEX-V2" in quotes because it's how the cable is labelled. Nobody is telling it's real HEX-V2. How should that one be called then?
Transistors in either case is "cheap setup" - they cost cheaper than controllers.
I wish you best luck with your old and the best cables and brilliant understanding in electronics.

Again you are wrong and write bulshit.

Chinease can call it Apolo 16 but it is still OLD HEX-CAN. That is right name and only one.

1:1 pcb also is BULSHIT, it is TOTAL nonsense , it can not be because it is, again, Only old HEX - CAN NOT HEX-V2.

as well quality OF Chinease CHIPS, ARE YOU CHILD OR WHAT??? Where you saw HQ chips in Chinease devices at all???

Regarding chips and transistor better not write anything if you don't understand how it work and especially what is cheaper to produce.

Obviesly you never produced any electronic device so you don't know how prices are calculate in electronics productions.

Enjoy in your excellent working , looking nice HEX-V2 [emoji1][emoji1][emoji1]



Sent from my HONOR 8X

[liviudiaconu]

In fact that specialized chips are made for K-Line translate signals. Why the producer of Si or L chips made that chips? If the solution is so simple, 2 transistors and few diodes?
They are masochists? Only complicate things for nothing?
And, if the solution with transistors is so simple and so good, why R-T not allowed and used?
I think that chips are them importance.
@mikroel: you know chineses simplified more solution and used 2 transistors for one K/L line? And the solution didn't worked on few models Passat (if i remember well)?
After this they "patched' with diodes.
The same chineses too, after a "solution" for eliminate 16V8 posted by a "smart guy" (because the 16V8 not easy to reprogram at that time, more years ago) released bad clones without 16V8. Apparently it works but for few adaptations not.
So, let chineses with them shit-inventions.

Transistor solution can work well for a "perfect" car. But if the car signals are not so good?
Transistors solution is more easy for repair. In fact, if i see "K x Short to GND/+ " i preffer to change both transistors. Without measuring in one of them is broken or not.
And costs=1-2 cents. If change a controller..2-3 euros or more. But i preffer controllers solution. They are made for a function. With some protections, and others.

[Roma77]

....bad post, sorry.

[mikroel]

Well

For ISO 9141 protocol or well know K-line is much easier and cheaper (for production) to use one or two transivers ( for example as Si9243 or MC33290 or L9637 or TJA1050..... 1$ price)
Then 4 transistors and bunch of diodes and resistors and capacitors.

Also price for pick and place is much lower for mounting one or two soic8 components then 10 transistors and bunch of needed components such as R & C & diodes

Comparing prices of components it is more or less the simmilar but comparing assembling price and time, transivers is much better and cheaper, also u need less space on pcb and u have much faster production.
But quality of signals with transivers comparing to transistors are the same or should be.


That is main reason why they produce transivers and not only them but all modern chips and MCUs.

Basicly all chips are made of transistors.


Edit:forget to mention, transivers has less power consumptions and they are faster then combination with transistors but this is not so important for the K-line which is relatively slow protocol,.


Sent from my HONOR 8X

[liviudiaconu]

Look here:
http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/L/9/6/3/L9637.shtml
Any .pdf you want.
Do you think that chip contain only 2 transistors and 2-3 diodes?
If we both agree the answer is "NO" is ok.
The reason for this chip is quality, stability, etc., not china economy.
But..

[mikroel]

Look here:
http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/L/9/6/3/L9637.shtml
Any .pdf you want.
Do you think that chip contain only 2 transistors and 2-3 diodes?
If we both agree the answer is "NO" is ok.
The reason for this chip is quality, stability, etc., not china economy.
But..What is the point of your post?
Now u discovered hot weather?

I didn't tell that transivers are bad or worst then transistors.

I am telling that VCDS device with transistors on K-line working good same as device with transivers.

But your choice is in what u want to believe
Ps.

Yes transivers are basicly made of transistors and some resistors and capacitors, same as microprocessors.
But you already should know that if you learned electronics in school .
If u are just self-tought hobbist then I can understand your attitude.

Cheers

Sent from my HONOR 8X

[Roma77]

@mikroel:# 8235 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3566194&viewfull=1#post3566194)
why all this? You came and wrote that you do not buy new scanners that you can update old ones? if you have not noticed, then we are doing this here, and if you have not noticed, one of the most reliable stores in China has created special links to independent programming for our forum with affordable prices and a guarantee of quality, we are constantly helping people in this thread to buy and repair, Why prove that it’s better - transistors or microchips? This is not a branch for professional installers and engineers who will argue, there is knowledge, just help users with repairs, I don’t need to answer, all questions are rhetorical, this whole dispute is useless and does not benefit the simple user. I would appreciate if you stop the argument since you started it. Thank.
P.S. According to the K.L- lines I put even the budget comparator LM339 over and above and the scanner will work, CAN-bus dictates its technologies.

[liviudiaconu]

Stay calm, I quit. Sorry for mini-flame.

[mikroel]

@mikroel:# 8235 (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/99750-VAG-COM-VCDS-EVERYTHING?p=3566194&viewfull=1#post3566194)
why all this? You came and wrote that you do not buy new scanners that you can update old ones? if you have not noticed, then we are doing this here, and if you have not noticed, one of the most reliable stores in China has created special links to independent programming for our forum with affordable prices and a guarantee of quality, we are constantly helping people in this thread to buy and repair, Why prove that it’s better - transistors or microchips? This is not a branch for professional installers and engineers who will argue, there is knowledge, just help users with repairs, I don’t need to answer, all questions are rhetorical, this whole dispute is useless and does not benefit the simple user. I would appreciate if you stop the argument since you started it. Thank.
P.S. According to the K.L- lines I put even the budget comparator LM339 over and above and the scanner will work, CAN-bus dictates its technologies.


Sorry,
I really didn't noticed when was that reliable store was opened to our forum.
Can you share the name of that releable China store... with guarantee ...HQ devices...

That will be very big contribution to this topic.
Much better then my stupid post about fullish transistors.


Sent from my HONOR 8X

[Roma77]

Sorry,
I really didn't noticed when was that reliable store was opened to our forum.
Can you share the name of that releable China store... with guarantee ...HQ devices...

That will be very big contribution to this topic.
Much better then my stupid post about fullish transistors.


Sent from my HONOR 8X
such arrogant posts containing trolling and arrogance are of no use, I answered your post for the last time with an appeal to stop the argument and do not try to discuss with me, I look at it all with a smile. If you want to continue the dispute for this, there is a private message, otherwise it is just a flood and incitement of insults. I hope the translator brought you my request. If you continue to communicate with me in the same manner, I will be forced to contact the Administration.
Friends do not pay attention and do not answer just continue to help users.
And I’ll add, with this post, you question the store that Kolimer recommends and at the same time you use it to update your adapters, but where is the respect?

[MaTyyyspl]

Hello.

I'm sorry for interfering in your conversation, but i have a small question.
I have a D79F8513A chip inside so i can't update version, but VAGCOM_HWType shows

FW Version : 1.96
HW Version : 0x46
Identification : HEX-OEM
Bootloader : Disabled

I actually use VCDS 17.1.3, so can i download newest version and use VCDSLoader.exe without destruction of my cable?

[kaalis]

You can download it, but it will be useless to use for the purpose it was created.

[hid3]

It simply won't work.
Quality cables are available for affordable price, check back a few pages back to get the link.

[bubsterboo]

I ordered the obd2cartool cable special that was posted here. Opted for the hex-v2 clone. https://www.obd2cartool.com/vip-link-vag-com-vag-hex-v2-diy-programming-cable-for-dk-members-p-1209?zenid=aretrl0ksv8a82q53tp5lv2mc1
It arrived after 17 days in transit from China to Canada. Just want to say its a great product. Very cheap. USB cable is quite thick and feels like quality. Hardware looks good. I flashed the firmware with the included bootloader and it works without issues. A+
617735617736

[Roma77]

I ordered the obd2cartool cable special that was posted here. Opted for the hex-v2 clone. https://www.obd2cartool.com/vip-link-vag-com-vag-hex-v2-diy-programming-cable-for-dk-members-p-1209?zenid=aretrl0ksv8a82q53tp5lv2mc1
It arrived after 17 days in transit from China to Canada. Just want to say its a great product. Very cheap. USB cable is quite thick and feels like quality. Hardware looks good. I flashed the firmware with the included bootloader and it works without issues. A+
617735617736

Thank you for sharing your impressions of the purchase. You have made a good and quality choice.

[Fabio89]

Guys,

some news about support MY2019+ ?
thanks

[LostAngel]

New for original Interface!
Beta 19.4.0
Data Version 20190411 / DS307.0
Beta 19.4 works only with Ross-Tech's current HEX-NET AND HEX-V2 interfaces.
It will not work with any of our older, legacy interfaces.
Support for legacy interfaces will be included again in the next Release versio

[bosu1787]

link.
łap.
http://uploadfile.pl/pokaz/1719876---7xv2.html
:tears_of_joy:

Hi,
do you have vcds 18.9.0 ROJ ?
thank you

[BMR187]

Hello,

I have 2 clone cables 12.12 and 16.8.4, both flashed fine to 1.96, I tryed vcds 7.1.3 and 8.9.1,(English and Dutch version) connections all ok with loader 7.2.

But if I try to read a module, I get 'No response from controller'. No matter what module I choose.

What can this be?