thanks hitek winrar worked a treat, 2 questions for anyone who can help me 1 if i try to rec on my ex 5000 it say's hdd full or not loaded it's not full and is loaded i've tried press rec 4 a few moments then pvr manager still nothing. 2 90% of my tvch's say free and 10% say scrambled i get the scrambled one's but the free ones say no audio/video data any ideas? cheers