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  • Evastar
    V.I.P. Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 1220

    #1

    Herbal Medicines Directive

    Forbidden healing

    if people can sign the petition to stop the eu from banning herbal medicines, that would be great
  • Bulld0g
    V.I.P. Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 7158

    #2
    Done Eva

    THE TRUTH
    The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

    Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
    The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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    • nara
      DK Veteran
      • May 2008
      • 2586

      #3
      Sorry Eva. If herbal medicines can satisfy the license requirements to prove themselves safe and effective they will be ok.

      If they can't, they will be banned. This is a public safety issue.
      He who laughs last probably didn't get the joke.

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      • Evastar
        V.I.P. Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 1220

        #4
        Originally posted by nara
        Sorry Eva. If herbal medicines can satisfy the license requirements to prove themselves safe and effective they will be ok.

        If they can't, they will be banned. This is a public safety issue.
        some of these remedies have been used for thousands of years and shouldn't come under the same licensing laws as synthetic drugs.

        what it's really about is the money the pharmaceutical companies are losing by people having a choice. i mean if it was about public safety cigarettes would have been banned long ago. but both the multi billion pound pharmacetical and tobacco industries can afford lobbyists and 'donations' to keep things going their way.

        and as for proving themselves safe, look at all the drugs scares they have had over the last number of years, products they licence and then withdraw from the market.

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        • evs
          Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 42

          #5
          Originally posted by Evastar
          some of these remedies have been used for thousands of years and shouldn't come under the same licensing laws as synthetic drugs.
          Originally posted by Evastar

          what it's really about is the money the pharmaceutical companies are losing by people having a choice. i mean if it was about public safety cigarettes would have been banned long ago. but both the multi billion pound pharmacetical and tobacco industries can afford lobbyists and 'donations' to keep things going their way.

          and as for proving themselves safe, look at all the drugs scares they have had over the last number of years, products they licence and then withdraw from the market.



          Got to agree, look at thalidomide people and ask how they managed to develop like they did. It wasn?t through there parents taking natural drugs.

          There?s a guy on the news only yesterday fighting for legal aid to take a pharmaceutical company to court for compensation because of the drugs that his mother took that left him disfigured.

          Natural remedies have no side affects unlike synthetic drugs.
          Petition signed.
          I intend to live forever - so far so good.

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          • nara
            DK Veteran
            • May 2008
            • 2586

            #6
            Originally posted by evs
            Natural remedies have no side affects unlike synthetic drugs.
            Sorry , but that is nonsense.

            Here's some reading for you.

            Herbal Side Effects and Warnings

            Side Effects of Herbal Medicine | LoveToKnow

            Negative Side Effects of Herbal Medicine | eHow.com
            He who laughs last probably didn't get the joke.

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            • SouthernComfort
              DK Veteran
              • Feb 2011
              • 403

              #7
              Originally posted by nara
              Sorry Eva. If herbal medicines can satisfy the license requirements to prove themselves safe and effective they will be ok.

              If they can't, they will be banned. This is a public safety issue.
              We both know that's not true, in a country where tobacco is legal yet cannabis is illegal, Safety is of little concern.

              It is unclear if the ANH supports the legalization of cannabis, I support anyone willing to investigate the benefits of ALL natural remedies. Most groups are very selective.
              Last edited by SouthernComfort; 20 April, 2011, 13:10.
              "What we've got here is failure to communicate."

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              • Evastar
                V.I.P. Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 1220

                #8
                Originally posted by nara
                yes some herbal medicines can have side effects, so do synthetic drugs.

                and as these herbal medicines are around for so long most side effects are already well documented. so it's not like creating a new synthetic drug that needs to be tested for years because they don't know what it does.

                just because you choose not to use them or believe in their efficacy doesn't mean that the choice of using them should be taken away from the millions that do want to use them.

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                • berley
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 567

                  #9
                  .... done

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                  • evs
                    Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 42

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nara

                    Looks like I was wrong, it seems they can have an adverse effect. But I had to laugh when I read your links as most used the word may cause adverse effects.

                    I had to laugh when it suggested that Celery may increase the risk of bleeding.


                    Yeah if some one smacked you in the face with a bunch of it.


                    But when you read Mims book of prescription drugs they use the word can cause adverse effects which everyone knows is true.

                    So I think there is a place for both, that?s why I can?t disregard one over another as easy as you can.
                    I intend to live forever - so far so good.

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                    • Snowy79
                      DK Veteran
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1347

                      #11
                      Trust me if the Pharmaceutical companies were losing money to Herbal Remedies they'd soon buy out the Companies or sell the stuff themselves. Oh wait a minute they do already.

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                      • mtv1
                        The Stig PT
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 4413

                        #12
                        am i bovvered


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                        • nara
                          DK Veteran
                          • May 2008
                          • 2586

                          #13
                          Originally posted by evs
                          But when you read Mims book of prescription drugs they use the word can cause adverse effects which everyone knows is true.
                          I quite agree. (though I prefer the BNF) As a scientific database they have the research data to be more specific.

                          Originally posted by evs
                          that's why I can't disregard one over another as easy as you can.
                          I don't disregard. Stay focused. Any herbal remedy that is licensed, and there are plenty of them, is ok by me.

                          Originally posted by evs
                          I had to laugh when it suggested that Celery may increase the risk of bleeding.

                          Yeah if some one smacked you in the face with a bunch of it.
                          Don't laugh.Celery seeds can cause uterine bleeding in pregnant women.

                          Celery itself can increase the risk of bleeding when taken in conjunction with other anticoagulants such as aspirin.
                          He who laughs last probably didn't get the joke.

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                          • chroma
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1976

                            #14
                            Signed, but only cause i like using fennel seeds for cooking
                            He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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                            • Grizz
                              DK Veteran
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1598

                              #15
                              Signed cause i hate moneygrubbing pharmaceutical companies.

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