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They have set the Lockerbie bomber free. SNP are a complete JOKE!
Hope his kin plane crashes into the sea.
before jumping on this, the facts are the guy in prison was innocent all along, he was about to appeal and most likely would have got free, this would have made the initial case like a chimps tea party, so whats the best thing to go .. yeah let the guy drop his appeal and set him free due to this cancer everyones happy. and rest assured his release is the backing of the americans, regardless of all the false noises they are making . without the yanks blessing this would not happen
alot of information was not used at the trial which would have been used in the appeal trial and a miscarraige of justice would have happened and he would have been free
Err we have ywet to see the proof that he didnt do it. This is a political descision not legal. Pressure applied by the UK government on the Scottish parliment has made this happy I hope the oil contracts in Libya are worth it. I'd rather he rotted in jail fighting his appeal then we would actually know if he was innocent or just guilting of being involved witht he planning as has been suggested.
Err we have ywet to see the proof that he didnt do it. This is a political descision not legal. Pressure applied by the UK government on the Scottish parliment has made this happy I hope the oil contracts in Libya are worth it. I'd rather he rotted in jail fighting his appeal then we would actually know if he was innocent or just guilting of being involved witht he planning as has been suggested.
proof would have come out in his appeal trial that I am sure of, the whole Lockerbie events is shrouded in mystery, wouldnt suprise me if Iran, Syria were the ultimate country direclty involved in this.
as I have said, the Americans approved his release.
alof of answered questions now buried away and we will never find out the truth of who was responsible.
his appeal was dropped by him for what ever reason I'm totally embarrassed to be scottish how you can commit Mass Murder and be sentenced to life and then be free just because you are dying is a joke compassion just think about this if he was diagnosed terminally ill when he was on trial would we or the prosecutors have dropped the case.Scottish Justice is a joke as for his appeal im sure that in the circumstances the processes could have been speeded up if the facts cleared him of the crime.
Err we have ywet to see the proof that he didnt do it. This is a political descision not legal. Pressure applied by the UK government on the Scottish parliment has made this happy I hope the oil contracts in Libya are worth it. I'd rather he rotted in jail fighting his appeal then we would actually know if he was innocent or just guilting of being involved witht he planning as has been suggested.
...BUT it dosent work like that. You have to provide PROOF he did it! Why dont the gov. provide 100% proof he was involved!
When a person is taken to court, the people who take you to court have to provide proof you did the crime, not the other way around. His trial was a shambles to start with, thanks to the Yanks.
Its just another case of America telling the UK government what to do.
Just in case you havent noticed, its just like the illegal wars that have been started in Afgan and Iraq.
WHERE ARE THE WMDs? Our then PM Tony Blair said, he has seen the WMDs and could be fired within 15 minutes!
That all turned out to be total BULLSH*T.
I think this guy was used as a escape goat, so the Yanks could get their own way and start wars, which would then make them
rich!
I feel sorry for the familys of the people who died, BUT that dosent mean, you can grab someone and throw him into prison, to make it all look good.
SLOWLY, OUR FREEDOM IS BEING ERASED.
SOON, WE WILL JUST BE A NUMBER.
IF WE DON'T FOLLOW, WE WILL BE ERASED.
...BUT it dosent work like that. You have to provide PROOF he did it! Why dont the gov. provide 100% proof he was involved!
When a person is taken to court, the people who take you to court have to provide proof you did the crime, not the other way around. His trial was a shambles to start with, thanks to the Yanks.
Its just another case of America telling the UK government what to do.
Just in case you havent noticed, its just like the illegal wars that have been started in Afgan and Iraq.
WHERE ARE THE WMDs? Our then PM Tony Blair said, he has seen the WMDs and could be fired within 15 minutes!
That all turned out to be total BULLSH*T.
I think this guy was used as a escape goat, so the Yanks could get their own way and start wars, which would then make them
rich!
I feel sorry for the familys of the people who died, BUT that dosent mean, you can grab someone and throw him into prison, to make it all look good.
Indeed yet but he was already found guilty it was up to him at his appeal to provide PROOF he didnt do it. This is a separate case to the WMD issue and I'd have loved to see tony Blair up in court for that one.
Still we will never hear any of the socalled evidence that proved he was infact innocnet.
His time in jail equated to 2 weeks for each of the 270 people that died.
Just herad on Sky news, the rep. of the victims familys has said he believes the trial was a FARCE and A COVER UP by the Yank and UK government!
He went on saying... the true evidence was hidden from the courts and the people of Scotland by the authorities.
He believes this person shold NOT have been charged over the attack as there was NO direct evidence to PROOVE he was involved in the actual bombing!
NOW WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU!!!
SLOWLY, OUR FREEDOM IS BEING ERASED.
SOON, WE WILL JUST BE A NUMBER.
IF WE DON'T FOLLOW, WE WILL BE ERASED.
Tells us nothing without proof this is only his opinion. Setting this man free denies us the chance at getting any real proof that he was indeed innocent.
Tells us nothing without proof this is only his opinion. Setting this man free denies us the chance at getting any real proof that he was indeed innocent.
Us getting hold of all the evidence will be impossible!
The authorities will only disclose evidence/proof which will favour them.
By law they should have disclosed ALL evidence to the courts and the defence, which they did not do. What chance do we have now in obtaining any evidence/proof!
Even by using the "freedom of information act", the authorities will hide behind the "national security" door!
SLOWLY, OUR FREEDOM IS BEING ERASED.
SOON, WE WILL JUST BE A NUMBER.
IF WE DON'T FOLLOW, WE WILL BE ERASED.
Indeed yet but he was already found guilty it was up to him at his appeal to provide PROOF he didnt do it. This is a separate case to the WMD issue and I'd have loved to see tony Blair up in court for that one.
Still we will never hear any of the socalled evidence that proved he was infact innocnet.
His time in jail equated to 2 weeks for each of the 270 people that died.
The break in at London airport he night before was kept under raps by Mrs Thatcher and company probably in collusion with America. At the time of the bombing Libya was the 'bad man' in American eyes. They had just recently bombed installations in the Libyan desert, saying, wrongly, that it was a plant to develop nuclear weapons(Does this ring a bell? WMD and all that). There were a lot of mysterious men around the site of the crash at the time and no one in authority would say, or knew, who they were.
Another point to remember is the following;
Sunday July 3, 1988
The USA shot down an Iranian civil aircraft with the loss of 290 passengers and crew, including 66 children. This was a deliberate act of shooting down a scheduled Iranian civil flight. Nobody is going to tell me that the people in charge of the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world could not tell the difference between that aircraft and a threat. No one was ever charged with that 'mistake' although Iran was paid off for their loss.
Wednesday 21st December 1988
A Pan-Am 747 bound for New York from London crashes into the small Scottish town of Lockerbie, killing all 259 people onboard and 11 people on the ground.
Coincidence? I think not.
I can't wake up Grumpy now in case I am accused of Dwarfism
This whole sorry catastrophe can be laid firmly in the lap of the U.S.A. If they had not shot down that Iranian scheduled civilian aircraft there would have been no 'revenge' attack.
The even 'fixed' evidence to point the blame to Libya. Had the appeal gone ahead America would not have come out off it looking very good. Despite all the anger etc in the U.S.A. I bet they are quietly saying thank goodness we got out off that easy. They can even throw some blame Scotlands way. I hope it damages U.K. relations to the extent that we 'break away' from them(I know it won't). The only thing we have got from America in the last fifty years are dead soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan. Half the american people don't even know where 'Skatland' is. I have been asked a few times when I was over there. "Is it part of Germany?".
I can't wake up Grumpy now in case I am accused of Dwarfism
i can understand what you are saying but my viewpoint is this..
Was he found guilty in a court of law..? Yes
Should he ben released to die..? No
He should have continued with his appeal, if found not guilty, then he should have been released as a free man..
Its the same with Ronnie Biggs.. should have not been released...
If you commit a crime and are found guilty in a court of law then unless you can prove your innocence you should see your sentence out.. if you happen to die or be close to death then so be it..
You can speculate, come up with cover up stories, but as it stands the man has been found guilty (rightly or wrongly) of killing 270 people and therefore should be treated as such.. which in my book does not include compassion
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