ps3 modding

[minitruck]

Hi all,
Has anyone been able to mod the ps3, so you can play copied games.

[glic83]

no and seeing that it has been out a while it doesnt look likely

[flunkyou2]

its the never been hacked and never will.... Watch out, as the next gen will follow suit and wont be hacked

[Raven]

What the previous poster said would be more than likely true in theory.....I'm not sure why people want to copy PS3 games anyway, as far as I can tell (I could be wrong however) most games use over 8.5gb standard dual layer disc space....games like MGS4 use almost 50gb space on disc confirmed....and there's one or two other games one can see using similar amounts - especially as the PS3 goes on from here and the games get bigger and better in scope. So it's not like copying games is even a feasible option on PS3 let alone viable, which it obviously isn't at the moment. And besides an original game always beats a copy for basically everything especially reliability and other niceties, does save alot of messing about, can be had for not much more money realistically when you think about it from a preowned standpoint vs a copy, do get the instruction booklet most of the time when preowned and that's something one never gets with copies no matter how much time you spent making the copy "identical" to retail.....and alot of PS3 games quite frankly are worth every penny - with some being an absolute steal for the asking price - Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns of The Patriots in particular at 15 quid preowned, however you can't go wrong with Uncharted Drake's Fortune for a tenner!

The same points and principles would fly for the 360 too, and 95% of them do, except that on 360 due to data space on the discs it's not only extremely feasible but it's also very viable too - the major difference is the space available on disc at what price point. There comes a time sometimes when there are occasions where one has to ask the question of is it worth buying or burning copies at this point considering time/money spent versus just buying the original preowned ?

Copying or buying copies was only useful when games were 40 quid in the shops, that's not the case anymore not even with new games unless you count the first week or two....nowadays copying is only really useful for trying out games to see which ones are worth the asking price - but then that's what rental service and game demos are for....but still not technically the same! Also nowadays top quality games can be had preowned for a around a tenner or less in alot of cases - and a copy is what 3 or 5 quid from the boot sale (preowned when you think about it and not guaranteed to work!) or a download, par, extract and burn away (more time consuming and still not guaranteed to work, coasters do happen for various reasons!)....it's like why settle for second best when an extra fiver could save you alot of messing about and net you the premium, legit version. Granted price does vary and fluctuate somewhat but basically this is the price of convenience so it would seem!

I just think that in times gone by, myself included, people bought copies because of inflated shop prices where it was a situation of buy at 3 quid or 40 it's your choice if you know a guy who knows a guy which everyone did, no doubt these days copying will be all some people know, and I just think nowadays people copy impulsively not because they need to or in alot of cases particularly want to but just because they can. To some extent it's always been like this, like when people used to tape record songs live from the radio and try to avoid dj dilbert ruining the song (and I bet some people still haven't got the hang of it! )

This post might seem a little righteous or preachy, but I'm not trying to pass judgement on wether it's right or wrong either way, because everyone does it to some extent and not just for games either....but I am questioning wether the ends justify the means with copies on consoles. They definitely used to do, but I'm not so sure they do anymore, not in this generation of consoles with today's technology amongst various other things.

War and Peace over!

[anthony9559]

How to copy ps1 games from my ps3 to to my psp
Does anyone know how i can do that cos i heard that it can be done but not sure how to do it
______________________
used ps3 games
copying ps3 games

[project_rai]

ps3

so, currently there are no chances of ps3 being moded?

[Raven]

I appreciate that there's a wave of PS3 newbies coming into the situation, but why are people still asking this question ? Is it not abundantly clear that the answer is 'no and not likely' - surely you knew already or at least a quick google search would have given you the answer. It's frustrating because here we are 3 years into the PS3's life cycle and every week somebody is asking if it's been modded yet or if it's possible and it's like come on guys use your own intuition, hell use google!

I don't know why the tight arse's are even holding out for a hack anyway, the games are dirt cheap and awesome quality already not to mention free to play online, I mean Killzone2 and Uncharted Drake's Fortune preowned for a tenner a piece and MGS4 at 15 quid tops - that's value. Think about it, when all's said and done you spend at least 3 quid on a shitty copy be it from the boot sale or the burnable media and boxes and stuff....is it really worth it ?

Obviously I've been buying games on the cheap since I got the PS3 (exception made for Uncharted 2 - obviously!) but I wouldn't go back to copies or copying for keeps now, and it's mainly because it's not worth the hassle and you aren't even saving that much, but any game I do like I'll buy when the price comes down or unless it's absolutely worth the 40 notes to play now. The original media is a lot more reliable than burnt to media as well. Especially them Blu-ray discs. That's mostly why I stopped copying stuff to burnable media on a full time reliability basis because the discs no matter what quality were about as scratch resistant as cat's claws on bare skin and to make matters worse 8 times out of 10 the slightest scratch meant half the data on disc was now unreadable - so burnable discs are completely unreliable unless they're used as a vessel for forwarding data from one location directly to another on a 1 time deal basis.

[cunny]

I saw a very good post on the ps3 security and why its a cow to mod. Last i heard they were working on a HDD launcher but that was ages ago. Will see what i can dig out.

[cunny]

This is the article i found an is interesting to read for those who wonder why it cant be hacked yet

When we create a new generation of video games, we also create a new generation of technology, security, and sadly ... hackers. Finding holes in new hardware and exploiting them to do anything from copying free games to changing the technology itself, these hackers have many ways of doing things and leave many industries looking for solutions to stop it. With the PSP being hacked just days after each update, we are left to wonder why the PS3 hasn't been hacked yet and what has Sony done to stop the madness. Well, we created a feature to help explain how things are done and exactly why the PS3 is safe from these attacks.

If you have ever hacked, or watched someone hack a PSP, then you'd know how things work. You mess with the file system and trick it into reformatting itself to fit your needs. All the DRM and privilege rights are overwritten and nothing is stopping you from doing things you're not supposed to. This can be done on almost any technological piece of hardware. You can insert a UMD and copy it to a memory stick, you can take the iPhone and change the version to bypass AT&T security, or you take your PC game and upload it to a torrent site for someone else to play. Since these hacks seem to be common practice nowadays, Sony has obviously studied these exploits and went to great lengths to prevent it from happening on the PS3.

The minute your PS3 boots up, it runs through 4 stages of security at all times. All 4 stages have secrets that will need to be decoded in order to reach the next stage. So think of hacking the PS3 to be similar to a treasure hunt. You discover the clues and figure out a way to piece them all together to find the treasure. Except in this hunt for the booty, if you mess up one tiny thing, the whole mission collapses and your PS3 could possibly explode into vast reaches of outer space.

For starters, the PS3 is not easily fooled like its sibling PSP. Sony has encrypted each hard drive to only work with a specific PS3, which eliminates the possibility of switching them out like memory sticks. The hard drive is then read by the PS3 where it makes sure the drive is registered to the specific console. After verifying the hard drive, the PS3 continues to search for needed files to boot up the OS. This is merely the logo that appears or random files hidden in the system that will trigger the ?OK? to boot up. The hard drive is built in layers with the ?bootflag.dat? being the first file read on each start up, which then leads into the DRM file and finally ... the game files. Several files found in between each of these makes things even more complicated to bypass. We must also note that messing with any of these files will cause the PS3 to read them as missing and not boot up correctly.

If you finally get past the hard drive, you must then face the problems hidden within the actual system itself. We all know the PS3 is a beast with a hearty 7 cells running under the hood as we brag about this on a daily basis. The problem for hackers is how only 6 of these cells are actually accessible, with the 7th cell access being denied to everyone. Not even game developers have access to this 7th cell. Now why is this cell even there if we can't use it? In a simple sentence, the 7th cell runs the PS3 completely on its own. The cell boots the system up, cracks the codes encrypted in all security branches, and finally keeps the OS running while you play a game or do whatever you normally do. Remember how I talked about the PS3 verifying the HDD in relation to the system? This is where that comes into place. The 7th cell is what verifies everything that needs to be unlocked or encrypted. The 7th cell basically double checks that everything in the PS3 actually belongs to the PS3, so users cannot trade hard drives or share illegal games without the cell noticing and denying access. With the exception of communicating with other cells, this cell cannot be written to or acknowledged by an outside source, making it completely secure from attacks.


If hackers somehow find a way to hack the hard drive and bypass the 7th cell, there is still one more major problem awaiting for them at the next step. If you haven't heard about Blu-ray, then you are probably thinking PS2 is the shiznit right now and randomly came across this article of the future somehow. Joking aside, Blu-ray is an amazing feature for HD users and a tremendous advancement for all game makers with a massive storage space and fast loading times. However, it is also the biggest problem to every hacker out there. Each Blu-ray disc comes equipped with a special ?disc-based? encryption that is stronger than the security we find on DVD. The 128-bit key is hidden within each disc marked as BD-ROM and requires the ?special? Blu-ray technology to decrypt it. Does Eboot.bin sound familiar? No? Well for the new guys, this is the file that hides all the required data to run a game or movie, which is very important. Now you can guess what is hidden under the encryption layer of BD. A Blu-ray lens can read the encryption, unlock it, and break it down from a .SELF file and .ELF file for games, where the Eboot file can be shared with the system. Even if this code is bypassed, hackers would have trouble finding ways to boot up a particular file without having the disc inserted. Unlike hacks on the PSP, simply inserting a different disc will not work. So next time you insert a BD and realize the small load time, just remember your PS3 is just doing all these things in a matter of seconds.

While the PS3 is closed down like the gates at Fort Knox, hackers do occasionally find ways to breach the security of the system. Some hackers have tried to steal passwords, some have tried to destroy the PS3 due to their frustrations of failing, and others randomly do something stupid to make us all laugh. Sony finds out about these hacks, or ?attempts? as it were, and immediately issue software updates to protect users like you and I. These updates help protect the PS3 from attacks and are required to access the PlayStation Network. When a PS3 logs into the PSN, it registers on the network with its firmware version. Having faulty firmware will get you banned from the PSN permanently and possibly trigger something to go wrong internally. Hacking the PS3 will also void your warranty and you will no longer be allowed to receive repairs. This final precaution is the 4th and final step Sony has taken to prevent the pirates from hacking your PS3.

Remember, these are just the 4 major security walls Sony has implemented within the PS3. Depending on how hackers attempt to hack the PS3, several smaller problems can occur preventing them from going any further. Installing the OS Linux may open up some loop holes, but compared to what hackers have done with the PSP, nothing has ever been quite as successful.

Will we see the PS3 hacked one day? Possibly, depending on if Sony ever releases that 7th cell and how much hackers learn about all the new technology. Right now the PS3 is the safest beast on the market and people don't really have to worry a whole lot about attacks. While you may be thinking free games on the PSP are nice, we all must realize how much it hurts the industry as a whole and would devastate the PS3 market.

Thankfully, Sony has found a way to make the safety features unnoticeable to the average gamer and keep the lid on the PS3 closed tightly. So no need to worry, your PS3 is safe at home waiting for you to play the latest games and will one day rule the world. That is until PS4 comes out and we start worrying about something new ? but that's quite a ways away, so let's just relax while we can.

[Raven]

That's a great read m8, who would have thought it that the best and most powerful console on the market which has the best games would also be the safest console there's ever been....I guess you could say that Sony (and Sky/VM) have done the impossible and beaten the hackers.

The only thing with that article unless I'm misreading is the parts about hard drive securities with regards to specific PS3's - surely this really means firmware licenses actually stored on a chip somewhere on the board inside the PS3 - because I've manually upgraded my PS3 hard drive to a 300gb non official hard drive because the PS3 uses standard laptop hard drives and Sony encourage the upgrading of these because this is the one thing they've made easy with regards to hardware "tampering".

[nemesiszero]

Sorry nope its going to be a very long time even if it does happen blu ray has the hackers beat down for now thats why future generation consoles are switching to blu ray because the Algorithm is too secure and complex to crack but hopefully one day there will be a expoilt.

[Raven]

but hopefully one day there will be a expoilt.

Why ? Because it's the same shit just a different day with regards to discs, for me the only time copying or hacking is worth it is when discs are simply not involved.....because it's much more reliable that way.

[calvin plummer]

The PS3 is already region free ****wit and as for your download site - it's a con - jog on

[Raven]

Same guy obviously looking to get his site some exposure off the back of DK's legwork...looks like he keeps getting banned too.

[tufftrading]

ps3 dvd player multi region

Hello people, New on here and i have a query, PS3 slim 120gb, Does anybody know if its possible to make the dvd player region free? got stacks of dvds i cannot play, dont wanna add another dvd player to my already overcrowded tv space! (spolis it) thanks for any help