Linksys pap 2 phone adaptor

[thered]

i have another problem if anyone can help got 1 of these

UNLOCKED LINKSYS PAP2T-NA SIP VOIP Phone Adapter 2 Port | eBay


i have it set up with sipgate i have it set up through the browser

i can see on sipgate that i am online and the pap2 device is connected

my analog phone is plugged in to it


it wont ~~~~in ring though ring ring you piece of 5hit damn you

any help anyone got 1 thank you????

[TheCoder]

I think the NA model is for North America which has a different ring circuit than UK phones. From what I remember you need add a ring capacitor to get a UK phone to ring. Something like -

Broadbandbuyer US Plug to BT Socket Adapter w/Ring Capacitor - RJP/BTS

may do the job.

The PAP2 also has a fairly weak ring output which may not work on many older phones that require significant ring current.

There's also a chance that changing the ring waveform may help. Some UK phones seem to respond better to a trapezoid than the more normal sinusoid.

admin login => regional (must be in advanced view) => (see left pane title letter and roll down to) ring call and call waiting tone spec => ( see right pane) ring waveform => ( click pull down menu) trapezoid.

[thered]

confused now

i have this home telephone

BT Graphite 2500 Twin Cordless Phone With Answer Machine (051537) - BT Shop


i bought some rj11 cable today to connect it and i thought that would seal the deal but it hasnt

my phone is connected to linksy as i can press **** and get my ip from the handset but i have no dialing tone and the phone will not ring in either

i will have a play with these trapezes you talk of and get back do i need to adjust voltages or anything else thanks

[TheCoder]

Something else to check is whether you have your router set up properly to route any incoming SIP protocol packets to the IP address of the PAP2. That may involve setting the STUN server address (stun.sipgate.co.uk I think) from the PAP2 and opening up ports UDP 5060 (SIP), UDP 5004 (RDP) and TCP/UDP 10000 (STUN) on your router.

If everything is set up properly then you should be able to place a SIP call directly to your IP address (ie,without going through sipgate) from virtually any sip phone (either hardware or a PC softphone). Usual thing is to just type something like [email protected] into a softphone

[thered]

Something else to check is whether you have your router set up properly to route any incoming SIP protocol packets to the IP address of the PAP2. That may involve setting the STUN server address (stun.sipgate.co.uk I think) from the PAP2 and opening up ports UDP 5060 (SIP), UDP 5004 (RDP) and TCP/UDP 10000 (STUN) on your router.

ok thanks anything in changing the voltages??????



when you say configure the router i can ring on my mobile my sipgate number it rings on my mobile

when i check my browser at the same time for the pap 2 device it is showing as receiving the cal from my mobile

so i am assuming it is set up correct or may it still need router configuration??

[TheCoder]

Not sure on voltages - never had to do that as I used to use the PAP2-UK device which is designed to run with UK phones. There may be a setting somewhere but no idea what it should be. I think ring voltage used to be around 30v but that was last century !

If the web interface says the PAP2 is presently receiving a call then it should of rung the phone. When that happens can you actually pick the phone up and talk (regardless of not hearing a ringtone) ?

If you can then the problem is ring voltage related - you'll probably require the ring capacitor solution or maybe even a different phone. If you cant talk then the problem is more likely to be router/PAP2 configuration.

nb, the ringtone you hear on the mobile is generated at the exchange, not by the PAP2. You'd hear it even if the phone was disconnected.

[thered]

If everything is set up properly then you should be able to place a SIP call directly to your IP address (ie,without going through sipgate) from virtually any sip phone (either hardware or a PC softphone). Usual thing is to just type something like [email protected] into a softphone

sorry dont understand this??

i dont even know what a soft phone is

can you explain these steps in laymans terms thank you

[thered]

Not sure on voltages - never had to do that as I used to use the PAP2-UK device which is designed to run with UK phones. There may be a setting somewhere but no idea what it should be. I think ring voltage used to be around 30v but that was last century !

If the web interface says the PAP2 is presently receiving a call then it should of rung the phone. When that happens can you actually pick the phone up and talk (regardless of not hearing a ringtone) ?

If you can then the problem is ring voltage related - you'll probably require the ring capacitor solution or maybe even a different phone. If you cant talk then the problem is more likely to be router/PAP2 configuration.

nb, the ringtone you hear on the mobile is generated at the exchange, not by the PAP2. You'd hear it even if the phone was disconnected.

on the last bit yes i know phones still ring while disconnected but my web interface for the pap2 device is actually showing that my mobile number is calling it which sort of makes me think it is ok

on the other hand i cannot hear any voioce when i pick it up and i get no dial tone so maybe it is the config of the router

i have fowarded the router to the ports mentioned earlier do i also need to change the pap2 settings???

thanks

[thered]

just to add to the last post i think i ~~~~ed up when i read back i forwarded all my router ports i think correct me please the only router was the last one

are the other 2 for the pap2 thing is i cant see where i forward these 2 5060 and 5004 on the actual pap2 interface

if so where do i forward them at

thank you

[TheCoder]

A Softphone is a SIP phone program that runs on your PC. It just uses your PC speakers and a microphone instead of a real handset. Most SIP service providers will provide a SIP softphone program fro free. The one sipgate recommends is - sipgate.co.uk - free phone service over your broadband link - voice over ip provider

Sipgate very nicely pre-configure the that particular softphone with all your details if you log into the site first using your account details.

To send/receive internet calls you dont actually need to go via sipgate. Your PAP2 is effectively a standalone SIP server device so others can contact it directly. In order to do so all a caller needs to know is your public IP address, then they can simply enter that address in their own SIP phone. A typical format for a PC softphone would be to enter [email protected] (where 1.2.3.4 is your public IP address) or possibly SIP:[email protected]. If this address is entered by somebody on their SIP phone then your phone should ring and you should have Sip->Sip contact without going through any other provider. This type of call is always free. You can also do SIP calls through sipgate BUT they dont allow anybody but other sipgate customers (and selected peers) to go through their servers so not as useful (format is [email protected] instead of your own IP address)

[TheCoder]

just to add to the last post i think i ~~~~ed up when i read back i forwarded all my router ports i think correct me please the only router was the last one

the other 2 are for the pap2 thing is i cant see where i forward these 2 5060 and 5004 on the actual pap2 interface

thank you

On my setup, all 3 ports I mentioned are forwarded to my phone in the router.

Inside my router I have -

Port 5060 UDP -> 192.168.123.199
Port 5004 UDP -> 192.168.123.199
Port 10000 ALL -> 192.168.123.199

where 192.168.123.199 is the internal IP of my SIP phone (replace with internal IP of your PAP2).

I also have my phone set up to a static IP (192.168.123.199) rather than allowing the router to set it. This means that the phone always gets the same IP allocated so the above routing always works.

[TheCoder]

on the other hand i cannot hear any voioce when i pick it up and i get no dial tone so maybe it is the config of the router

You should be getting a dialtone - if your not then something is definately wrong with your configuration.

Have you followed the sipgate guide - https://secure.sipgate.co.uk/faq/ind...cle=643&id=304

Edit: Actually, that guides not exactly helpful - just tells you to follow the device manual

[thered]

On my setup, all 3 ports I mentioned are forwarded to my phone in the router.

Inside my router I have -

Port 5060 UDP -> 192.168.123.199
Port 5004 UDP -> 192.168.123.199
Port 10000 ALL -> 192.168.123.199

where 192.168.123.199 is the internal IP of my SIP phone (replace with internal IP of your PAP2).

I also have my phone set up to a static IP (192.168.123.199) rather than allowing the router to set it. This means that the phone always gets the same IP allocated so the above routing always works.

thats what i have done with no joy

i am guessing it is connected ok to my pap device as i can ring **** on the phone and get the IP of the pap2 device and i also get that it is ringing when i call it from my mobile on the web interface


so maybe my phone is not compatible if not can you reccomend any cheapos that will work thanks

[TheCoder]

ok, reading sipgates help pages you may need to also set -

Port 8000 - 8012 UDP
Port 3478 ALL

not sure that will make any difference (they aren't set on my phone) but its what Sipgate recommends for port forwading on routers

You can paritally test sipgate by dialing 10000 on your phone - you should get an automated message

You may also need the following settings (SIP tab, advanced view) to make STUN work correctly

STUN Enable: yes
STUN Test Enable: no
STUN Server: stun.sipgate.net
EXT IP: 217.10.79.2
NAT Keep Alive Intvl: 20

[jazzyman]

I had a similar problem of no ring, it was the wrong adapter used, you need a "BT Socket - RJ11 Plug Adapter including a ring circuit" type adapter.