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  • podgey3874
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 45

    #31
    Originally posted by happy_highlander
    Can I just add to this post that for fixed dish single sat channel lists. Clarke tech studio editor will download a full channel list for the sat of your choice i.e. 28.2 by choosing input from web. List is from king of sats and you can then edit the list and favourites to your liking and stick them on a usb. Job done and very simple to use.
    hi highlander i have tried this way bye firstly adding 28.2 then 19.2 and both was added to the list useing clake tech was wondering if i could do this for all sats on my motorised dish and am guessing due to importing list from web list is up to date as it can be?
    i tested and uploaded to stb then i add to go to instilation.satelite setup select astra19.2 save it then checked motorised settings see if usals was selected all seems to be working fine
    Last edited by podgey3874; 14 February, 2013, 13:00.

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    • digicon
      V.I.P. Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 8261

      #32
      Originally posted by podgey3874
      hi highlander i have tried this way bye firstly adding 28.2 then 19.2 and both was added to the list useing clake tech was wondering if i could do this for all sats on my motorised dish and am guessing due to importing list from web list is up to date as it can be?
      i tested and uploaded to stb then i add to go to instilation.satelite setup select astra19.2 save it then checked motorised settings see if usals was selected all seems to be working fine

      Mate if your going to start banding this software about on other forums at least give Credit to the original author 'jetsetw'

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      • podgey3874
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 45

        #33
        Originally posted by digicon
        Mate if your going to start banding this software about on other forums at least give Credit to the original author 'jetsetw'
        sorry mate i will edit and give credit were its due sorry for that mate and jetsetw

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        • podgey3874
          Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 45

          #34
          what beams are impossiable to get around the arc on a 1metre motorised in wakefield reason why i ask is i am trying ot edit your spreadsheet for my needs
          for example i no i can only get badr4 but what would i need to put in coloum only to get that beam scanned

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          • jetsetw
            Newbie
            • Aug 2012
            • 3

            #35
            The explanation below is for the default website, Lyngsat. If you are using KoS or Flysat, it is easy enough
            to change the URL and beam names accordingly.


            You'll see in the spreadsheet at 26E that the URL is "Badr-4.html". This means that only beams from the
            Badr-4 satellite will be looked up. If you had an enormous dish and thought you could also pick up channels
            from Badr-5 or 6, you could change the URL to "Badr-4-5-6.html".


            As for which beams on Badr-4 are possible, the easiest way to find out is as follows:


            1) Type "All" in the beams column for 26E and run the macro. The spreadsheet will then pick up every beam
            available from the website. (If you look on Lyngsat, you'll see that the beams are called MBC, BSS and FSS.)


            2) Remember to back up your own channel list!
            Copy the resulting "TPs.ndf" file from your PC to a USB stick, and load into your Technomate.


            3) Scan Badr-4 on your Technomate, and make a note of which TPs have actually picked up channels.


            4) Go to the Lyngsat website and check the names of the beams corresponding to the aforementioned TPs.


            5) If, for example, you find that all those TPs are from the MBC and BSS beams, and that none of the TPs
            on the FSS beam gave you any channels, then you can safely change the 26E beam column of the spreadsheet
            to *MBC*BSS* (or Not *FSS* if you prefer). Next time you run the macro, only those beams will be used for
            TPs, saving you a lot of time when you next scan for channels on your Technomate.


            (What really slows down the scanning is having a list of hundreds of TPs that have no chance of being picked
            up. The Technomate will spend 10 seconds or so on each one in vain before moving on. By only using suitable
            beams in the spreadsheet, you miss out all the unavailable TPs from your channel list.)


            The reason that I haven't already filled in the beams column of 26E is that I can't pick up anything at all on
            my 60cm dish! I've only entered what works for me from 30W to 42E.


            Hope this makes sense; give a shout otherwise.


            Jetset
            Last edited by jetsetw; 15 February, 2013, 15:04. Reason: clarification

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            • podgey3874
              Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 45

              #36
              Originally posted by jetsetw
              The explanation below is for the default website, Lyngsat. If you are using KoS or Flysat, it is easy enough
              to change the URL and beam names accordingly.


              You'll see in the spreadsheet at 26E that the URL is "Badr-4.html". This means that only beams from the
              Badr-4 satellite will be looked up. If you had an enormous dish and thought you could also pick up channels
              from Badr-5 or 6, you could change the URL to "Badr-4-5-6.html".


              As for which beams on Badr-4 are possible, the easiest way to find out is as follows:


              1) Type "All" in the beams column for 26E and run the macro. The spreadsheet will then pick up every beam
              available from the website. (If you look on Lyngsat, you'll see that the beams are called MBC, BSS and FSS.)


              2) Remember to back up your own channel list!
              Copy the resulting "TPs.ndf" file from your PC to a USB stick, and load into your Technomate.


              3) Scan Badr-4 on your Technomate, and make a note of which TPs have actually picked up channels.


              4) Go to the Lyngsat website and check the names of the beams corresponding to the aforementioned TPs.


              5) If, for example, you find that all those TPs are from the MBC and BSS beams, and that none of the TPs
              on the FSS beam gave you any channels, then you can safely change the 26E beam column of the spreadsheet
              to *MBC*BSS* (or Not *FSS* if you prefer). Next time you run the macro, only those beams will be used for
              TPs, saving you a lot of time when you next scan for channels on your Technomate.


              (What really slows down the scanning is having a list of hundreds of TPs that have no chance of being picked
              up. The Technomate will spend 10 seconds or so on each one in vain before moving on. By only using suitable
              beams in the spreadsheet, you miss out all the unavailable TPs from your channel list.)


              The reason that I haven't already filled in the beams column of 26E is that I can't pick up anything at all on
              my 60cm dish! I've only entered what works for me from 30W to 42E.


              Hope this makes sense; give a shout otherwise.


              Jetset
              Please see pm

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              • digicon
                V.I.P. Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 8261

                #37
                **Update** 2.2.4


                I have tweaked the TP updater Excel spreadsheet with the following:

                46? east Azerspace 1 Satellite *added*

                34.5? West Intelsat 903 Satellite *added for Feeds*

                52.5? east Yahsat *Removed Footprint Changed*

                Updated all URL's from Lyngsat, King of sat & Flysat all Footprint beams have been added and updated

                All Credit to the Original Author of the Spreadsheet jetsetw Thanks

                Regards
                Attached Files

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                • digicon
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 8261

                  #38
                  **Update 2.5**

                  Done a little update with a few new Satellites added

                  20.0? west added for Feeds and the odd Channel Pops up there now and again

                  30.5? east Arabsat 5A you may need something like a TD110 or larger for this satellite

                  31.5? east Astra 1G Few Channels and the odd Feed

                  47.5? east Intelsat 10 Again Few Feeds on here

                  55.0? east Yamal 402 A few Channels on here

                  Checked and updated all URL's from the 3 main sites, All Credit for the Original Spreadsheet by JetsetW (Great bit of work)

                  This will create a Blank CNDF file with all the latest Transponders added all you have to do is scan

                  Compatible with the Usual TM5402,TM F3/5,TM6902,TM7102 etc.. Blade 7000s, Dr HD series of receivers

                  Regards
                  Attached Files

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                  • welldigger99
                    Newbie
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 3

                    #39
                    Hi All,
                    Looking at using this excellent spreadsheet (thanks to jetsetw!!) for updating my TP's on a TM5400 (not HD). Spreadsheet links to Lyngsat etc and updates without problem. I am at a loss however, as to how I create the right file type (NDF?). Clearly, the box will not recognise an xls spreadsheet. I am sure I am missing something obvious, but any guidance would be appreciated!
                    Many thanks,


                    Welldigger99

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                    • digicon
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 8261

                      #40
                      The Guide for this Program is on Page 1 first post, the xls is the spreadsheet that creates a Blank CNDF list that you insert into your receiver and then scan for the appropriate channels

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                      • welldigger99
                        Newbie
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 3

                        #41
                        Thanks digicon. Understood. I

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                        • jetsetw
                          Newbie
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3

                          #42
                          Minor update: satellite, URLs and beams updated. Detailed info below to save trawling through
                          the whole thread.


                          Guide to Creating a Technomate Channel List from Scratch

                          For Technomate 5400 Super and 5402HD models with USALS.
                          (May work with other TM series, or with Clarke Tech clones.)

                          Note: this guide and the attached spreadsheet are for creating a brand new channel list.
                          They will not help you modify an existing channel list.

                          Warning: always back up your own channel list before loading another one!

                          Many channel lists are available online, but the best list is always the one you make yourself.
                          This "Transponder Updater" spreadsheet will grab transponder details from the website of your
                          choice (Lyngsat, King of Sat, Flysat), for the satellites and beams you would like to scan. It then
                          saves an "empty" channel list to your PC with satellite and transponder information. (No channels
                          are stored at this stage.) This empty list can then be loaded into your receiver via USB stick, and
                          is ready for auto navigation to pull in the channels.

                          Features:

                          * You can enter your own satellite names and positions (up to 64).
                          * Choice of Lyngsat, King of Sat, or Flysat for acquiring transponders.
                          * You can specify exactly the beams from which to take transponders.
                          * Option to include, ignore, or only scan for feeds.
                          * Each website has its own columns for URLs and beams to scan, so you can switch from one to
                          another easily and compare results.
                          * Some good beams for the UK are already entered in the spreadsheet - easy to customise.
                          * A dummy transponder can be inserted for each satellite to prevent the Technomate from
                          scanning too early when auto-navigating. This ensures the dish has moved away from the
                          previous satellite before scanning the next one, thus preventing incorrect channel info on the
                          first transponder.
                          * After the spreadsheet has finished (could take a minute or two) you can see exactly which
                          transponders have been saved to the new list.

                          Full instructions in spreadsheet. Tested on Technomate 5400 Super and 5402 HD receivers.

                          A couple of tips on using the spreadsheet:

                          1) If you want to see what the various beams are called from a particular satellite, an easier way
                          than visiting the Lyngsat/KoS/Flysat website is to type "all" in the beams column. After running
                          the macro, you'll see precisely what all beams are called; the names are often a very good
                          indication of whether they're worth including! For the less obvious beams, see Lyngsat and Flysat
                          for links to footprints.

                          2) I would recommend that you do insert dummy TPs. Before I added this option, my receiver
                          would start scanning Astra 19 again while the dish was on the move between 19E and 23.5E...
                          If you do insert dummy TPs, they can be removed later using Clark Tech Editor Studio. The latest
                          version is 3.20, and it is great for tidying up channel lists generally. Although it claims lists from
                          the 5402HD are "5000-HDS format", I don't believe this is quite the case, and would save them
                          as "Clark Tech Plus" format for both 5400 Super and 5402HD receivers.

                          Jetset
                          Attached Files
                          Last edited by jetsetw; 30 June, 2014, 21:58.

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                          • HunHam
                            Newbie
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 2

                            #43
                            For any reason I am not allowed to download it. This is exactly what could help me out, looks great I want to try it..

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                            • zeze04
                              Newbie
                              • Feb 2021
                              • 1

                              #44
                              Originally posted by jetsetw
                              Minor update: satellite, URLs and beams updated. Detailed info below to save trawling through
                              the whole thread.


                              Guide to Creating a Technomate Channel List from Scratch

                              For Technomate 5400 Super and 5402HD models with USALS.
                              (May work with other TM series, or with Clarke Tech clones.)

                              Note: this guide and the attached spreadsheet are for creating a brand new channel list.
                              They will not help you modify an existing channel list.

                              Warning: always back up your own channel list before loading another one!

                              Many channel lists are available online, but the best list is always the one you make yourself.
                              This "Transponder Updater" spreadsheet will grab transponder details from the website of your
                              choice (Lyngsat, King of Sat, Flysat), for the satellites and beams you would like to scan. It then
                              saves an "empty" channel list to your PC with satellite and transponder information. (No channels
                              are stored at this stage.) This empty list can then be loaded into your receiver via USB stick, and
                              is ready for auto navigation to pull in the channels.

                              Features:

                              * You can enter your own satellite names and positions (up to 64).
                              * Choice of Lyngsat, King of Sat, or Flysat for acquiring transponders.
                              * You can specify exactly the beams from which to take transponders.
                              * Option to include, ignore, or only scan for feeds.
                              * Each website has its own columns for URLs and beams to scan, so you can switch from one to
                              another easily and compare results.
                              * Some good beams for the UK are already entered in the spreadsheet - easy to customise.
                              * A dummy transponder can be inserted for each satellite to prevent the Technomate from
                              scanning too early when auto-navigating. This ensures the dish has moved away from the
                              previous satellite before scanning the next one, thus preventing incorrect channel info on the
                              first transponder.
                              * After the spreadsheet has finished (could take a minute or two) you can see exactly which
                              transponders have been saved to the new list.

                              Full instructions in spreadsheet. Tested on Technomate 5400 Super and 5402 HD receivers.

                              A couple of tips on using the spreadsheet:

                              1) If you want to see what the various beams are called from a particular satellite, an easier way
                              than visiting the Lyngsat/KoS/Flysat website is to type "all" in the beams column. After running
                              the macro, you'll see precisely what all beams are called; the names are often a very good
                              indication of whether they're worth including! For the less obvious beams, see Lyngsat and Flysat
                              for links to footprints.

                              2) I would recommend that you do insert dummy TPs. Before I added this option, my receiver
                              would start scanning Astra 19 again while the dish was on the move between 19E and 23.5E...
                              If you do insert dummy TPs, they can be removed later using Clark Tech Editor Studio. The latest
                              version is 3.20, and it is great for tidying up channel lists generally. Although it claims lists from
                              the 5402HD are "5000-HDS format", I don't believe this is quite the case, and would save them
                              as "Clark Tech Plus" format for both 5400 Super and 5402HD receivers.

                              Jetset
                              Hello.
                              I am interested in the program but I cannot download it. I have a Clarke tech receiver for which I was using a small "NDF Edit" program to update the TPs using kingofsat or lyngsat, and it no longer works and I am looking for a solution. Thank you.

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