VVDI2 or Key Tool Plus

**chli1976** · 31st January, 2023, 07:30 AM

Will buy a VVDI2 or a keytoolplus
What you prefer ?

Does anyone have both and can point out the pros and cons

Thanks

**Spiritech** · 31st January, 2023, 09:31 AM

Fairly much the same capability as far as I've seen. VVDI2 has the advantage of being PC based and a little easier to navigate and type things into, and it's easier to save files for later use than on the key tool plus, you can do it but they're a bit of a pain to transfer off to use elsewhere or to give to someone else working on a car you've done before. Key tool plus has the advantage of having a key tool max and most of a mini prog built in and the ir key reader/programmer, but there's adapters and cables and such to buy to do everything. I had a VVDI2 in my previous job, when I struck out on my own I bought the key tool plus.

Doing say an EWS4 BMW it's a breeze with the key tool plus, connect adapter, read file, load file, create transponder all in one tool, same with Benz keys because it's all built in.

Battery lasts for ages, can easily do 10+ cars with a single charge even if you're a dope like me and forget to turn it off between jobs.

I do still prefer PC-based diagnostics from the point of view that if the laptop goes bad I just grab another one at the shop, integrated tablet units like key tool plus if something breaks it's the whole device. But that's why we carry multiple tools right?

Also PC based diagnostics looks a bit more 'complicated' shall I say to a customer, sometimes I think the tablets make a customer think anyone could do our job from the point of view that it looks simpler than a laptop and an interface and cables going every which way.

**alex_r_2001** · 31st January, 2023, 11:18 PM

You will soon realize that multiple different obd programmers as well as chip programmers are needed if you want to cover a fraction of cars out there... Then afterwards you will see the need for tango tmpro2 kw55 , ect, ect, as well as OEM tools.. The list grows fast very very fast and lots and lots of $$$$$. Then if you want to be reliable you have to stock good inventory of keys. Superchips not enough oem keys required for many jobs to at least clone.. Then books and test modules because you don't want to brick modules in front of impatient customers... Then learn locations of specific data in files because software does not even exist for jobs that you or somebody else messed up.. Oh and by the way customers like to blame damage on last person to touch car even if it was already bricked when you got there. . Goodluck though ,, after everything I cannot complain very good $$$ after stressed time invested.. Everyday you will learn something new as long as you apply yourself..

**wuza** · 2nd February, 2023, 03:49 AM

Since I only have Vvdi2 tool, I can give you some information about that tool...
Vvdi2 full gives you key programmer for VAG via obd.
4th and 5th immo works good. For older VAG is not good.
But reading old dashes and immo boxes via obd is working.
Also gives you options for BMW key programming via eeprom and OBD.
I would recommend the eeprom version... OBD is not always safe...
The Porsche is also there (eeprom) + Peugeot/ Citroen key learning via OBD.
Transponder programmer is a nice Feature.
It does key programming via eeprom. It has a lot of features like tango, but some of them are not working.
Xhorse remote database is available and it works fine with Xhorse remotes.

**jonasbong9** · 19th February, 2023, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by alex_r_2001

You will soon realize that multiple different obd programmers as well as chip programmers are needed if you want to cover a fraction of cars out there... Then afterwards you will see the need for tango tmpro2 kw55 , ect, ect, as well as OEM tools.. The list grows fast very very fast and lots and lots of $$$$$. Then if you want to be reliable you have to stock good inventory of keys. Superchips not enough oem keys required for many jobs to at least clone.. Then books and test modules because you don't want to brick modules in front of impatient customers... Then learn locations of specific data in files because software does not even exist for jobs that you or somebody else messed up.. Oh and by the way customers like to blame damage on last person to touch car even if it was already bricked when you got there. . Goodluck though ,, after everything I cannot complain very good $$$ after stressed time invested.. Everyday you will learn something new as long as you apply yourself..

lots of $$$$$? 10-15k? I think you earn more per month than this amount.