Cheers bud, at least i can get some kins tv through it, my freeview box doesnt seem to like my ariel, although my tv with intergrated freeview picks up the signal just fine, so at least i can still get some channels with this box, only paid ?35 for it, so not the end of the world...wont be able to get other freeview channel tho, like sky sports new etc...?

by the way thanks for your help, it has been very useful