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    so now is the car totally cloned?

    all units have same UIF and VIN then i guess they are coded with coding out of the new cas, wich doesnt belong to the car.


    Do you want to stay using this VIN from other car??


    if yes then: Put old dump in CAS and put in car.
    Then you read coding with NCSexpert. Go to your "work" folder and copy all files and send them to me.


    if not, then we need to syncronise DDE and change VIN in DDE too. If CAS/DDE are sync then other parts are piece of cake.

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    Not in all the controllunits the UIF VIN and the controlunit vin match .. the ones where it dont match are marked red in the picture of bmw explorer.. where you see all of the controllunits..

    We need to use the old vin ..

    I will do as you said..

    we tried flashed the active stearing and the SZL so now the UIF VIN there also match..

    if i want to put the old data back.. i just need to put data into the eprom right? because flash should be same or?

    because i just have eeprom data read by rosfar clone.. mcu is DG256 -

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    Yes flash is same. Program only eeprom.

    But in screenshot you sent i see only 1 UIF. Red ones are just with errors.

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    All is easy if you cas and dde is on another car

    write me on skype and will help bmw_service-bg


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    All is easy if you cas and dde is on another car

    write me on skype and will help bmw_service_bg


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    problem was solved .. thx to everyone that helped and contributed

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    Can you share the solution?

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    the solution is that i could not make any aligment because

    1. DME had fault .. fault was solved..
    2. i used a used cas .. changed vin int his used cas.. ans make FA coding according to car.. after that i make aligment of DSC .. then aligment of AL ... BUT AL aligment you need the steering wheel to keep turning from one site to other.. because this in nowhere written... and i just found out this by luck..

    if someone will need any assystence in any coding.. at bmw can always contact me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artjom View Post
    the solution is that i could not make any aligment because

    1. DME had fault .. fault was solved..
    2. i used a used cas .. changed vin int his used cas.. ans make FA coding according to car.. after that i make aligment of DSC .. then aligment of AL ... BUT AL aligment you need the steering wheel to keep turning from one site to other.. because this in nowhere written... and i just found out this by luck..

    if someone will need any assystence in any coding.. at bmw can always contact me..

    Nice!

    My problem is like this:

    On a E82, I change the DSC and the SZL with second hand units, not from the same car with different VIN's.

    I succed to code and change VIN into DSC, but the SZL is not longer present into diagnostic menu and is conected directly to DSC.

    I can not enable and calibrate the wheel sensor, because DSC tell me that the SZL has incorect serial.

    In attach is 24c08 from SZL and if someone can virginise that, I will code again the DSC and as DIS told the SZL will be coded automaticly.

    Thanks,
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    Hallo! as you see i had similar problem...

    what i found out is that the SZL or its Vin is not important... as far as i know it doesnt have vin.. only SZL of E60 has Vin..

    I had 3 different SZL from 3 different e90 and all of them worked just fine.. so SZL is not important.. and as E82 and e90 are almost same car...

    first of all how did you change the VIN of DSC ?

    What errors you have in the DSC ?

    My procedure was... i made DSC unit aligment... in the service function menue in DIS ..

    then i went to the stearing angle sensor and made aligment there...

    BUT you can JUST do this IF DDE and DSC have no errors ... DSC can have errors like stearing angle sensor but not that some wheel sensor is not working..

    In my case DSCalso told me that the serial dont match but this was no problem ...

    I solved all errors in the DDE and DSC first then made DSC-Unit aligment , then stearing angle aligment and then it started working...

    at the beginning i was also told the the SZL has vin and it will never work but i tested it and car drives...

    if you will need assystence... add me on skype msn and i can help ...

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    Maybe VIN was not important in your case because the DSC and SZL has the same VIN.

    Did you try if any of the 3 different SZL's can see the weel value ?

    Now in service function I have ''NONE'' on DSC calibration and also in Steering weel aligment.

    I change the VIN with abritus, but I do not recomand this solution on DCAN!

    The best way is with WinKFP.


    http://www.bmw-planet.com/diagrams/r...DSC_MK60E5.htm
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    in my case the DSC and SZL were from different cars so same as in your case... i chandes the vin with bmw explorer

    at the beginning none of the SZL showed any stearing angle values.. thats why i began to thing that SZL has to have vin ...

    but in my case the SZL also did not come to diagnostics... in e90 series it dont come to diagnostics .. its includet in the DSC.

    i do many e90 often it got an used DSC and the SZL was not changed.

    Your car has active stearing ?

    When you go to DIS ... you go to additonal function (left buttom) -> service functions -> DSC -> DSC unit aligment -> none (if you got here you have to push the button on the ground.. something like proceed after plan)

    after that the stearing wheel sensor should start working.. in this procedure the all DSC sensors are resetet and aligment

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    Hello, i have similar problem with dsc unit in e87. I replace DCS with second hand unit and dis displays 3 problems:
    vin, stering anlage sensor, dsc switch.
    I have ncs expert 3.1 but there is not e87 on the list?
    When i try code strering anlage sensor with dis -in right column dis says"NONE".
    Anynone can tell "step by step" how change VIN with ncs..
    Best rgs.and sorry for my bad english

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    hi, i got same problem, is re flash the eeprom of the SAS is needed? because i checked the DSC data stream and i turn the wheel, but steering angle value did not even move.

 

 
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