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    Default AUDI TT 180BHP map on a Leon 180bhp?

    hi, a few months ago, i read my mates file from his 2003 audi tt 180bhp, and got it tuned to around 210bhp, he wrote the audi off last week! and now brought a seat leon 2002 1.8t 180bhp,

    i was wondering if the tuned map can be installed on the leon, ive used a tuned astra gsi z20let map before on various astra's and zafira's with no probs, but werent sure about the audi to seat, i know the engines are the same but thought id ask incase anybody has tried it before

    many thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimmer View Post
    hi, a few months ago, i read my mates file from his 2003 audi tt 180bhp, and got it tuned to around 210bhp, he wrote the audi off last week! and now brought a seat leon 2002 1.8t 180bhp,

    i was wondering if the tuned map can be installed on the leon, ive used a tuned astra gsi z20let map before on various astra's and zafira's with no probs, but werent sure about the audi to seat, i know the engines are the same but thought id ask incase anybody has tried it before

    many thanks
    Hi!
    Is nearly impossible that the teo has the same HW version of ECUs.
    Post or send me the files (from audi and seat) and I can check it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfy View Post
    Hi!
    Is nearly impossible that the teo has the same HW version of ECUs.
    Post or send me the files (from audi and seat) and I can check it for you.
    ok ill read the leon and post them up cheers

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    i think it will work... but need immo off..

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    Quote Originally Posted by swat cat View Post
    i think it will work... but need immo off..
    Not right, immo has nothing in this job.

    Don't try to flash ECUs with wrong HW file! It will brick your ECU and will not be a simple repair!!!

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    right i havent read file yet will do sunday,

    but both cars are AUQ engine codes 1.8t 20v

    ive flashed vauxhall gsi's with different HW and SW numbers before without any problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfy View Post
    Not right, immo has nothing in this job.

    Don't try to flash ECUs with wrong HW file! It will brick your ECU and will not be a simple repair!!!

    Brick? Not simple repair?

    Immo has nothing to with flash for this ecu,immo is stored in eeprom and dash...Flash (29F400/800) you put in what yopu want and dont brick until you delete entire flash,and disconnect before write back has finisched...

    Not simple repair?... Or u use a paralel programmer or unsolder old empty flash,which would no more recognised by serial programmer and replace whit some 29F400/800 from other ecu,doesnt matter what...hw sw is on it...just needs to be NOT ERASED...solder in bricked ECU..connect whatewer u use as serial programmer,put back ori file...

    Done...where is the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsibiza View Post
    Brick? Not simple repair?

    Immo has nothing to with flash for this ecu,immo is stored in eeprom and dash...Flash (29F400/800) you put in what yopu want and dont brick until you delete entire flash,and disconnect before write back has finisched...

    Not simple repair?... Or u use a paralel programmer or unsolder old empty flash,which would no more recognised by serial programmer and replace whit some 29F400/800 from other ecu,doesnt matter what...hw sw is on it...just needs to be NOT ERASED...solder in bricked ECU..connect whatewer u use as serial programmer,put back ori file...

    Done...where is the problem?
    For you, for me and many many others open a ECU, desolder 29FXXX reprogram with programmer, resolder it back and close ECU is not a poblem, but for someone maybe is not.
    Is just not as simple as reflesh by OBD, that's all!

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    as long as it has the same components and actual file size it will work these are basically same just depends on emission control stuff air pumps second lamba ect but if u have stuff to de- solider its easy if doesn't work

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    read the file today and had a look at ecu data

    SEAT Leon: 1.8l r4/5vt
    0261207440
    1037360646
    flash: 29f800bt

    AUDI TT

    N0906018A
    1.8LR4/5VT
    0261207416
    1037363478
    29F800BT

    Both files were 1024kb in size and AUQ engine codes

    the checksum number was different between the two files, i take it thats ok though, as its a different file
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimmer View Post
    read the file today and had a look at ecu data

    SEAT Leon: 1.8l r4/5vt
    0261207440
    1037360646
    flash: 29f800bt

    AUDI TT

    N0906018A
    1.8LR4/5VT
    0261207416
    1037363478
    29F800BT

    Both files were 1024kb in size and AUQ engine codes

    the checksum number was different between the two files, i take it thats ok though, as its a different file
    Some maps are different between the two, also map addresses are a bit different.
    If I were you, I won't flash it with Audi's file, I will do otherway! But if you feel lucky, try it and report result!
    Last edited by alfy; 13th December, 2010 at 02:17 PM.

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    incase things go wrong, what do i need to backup and repair ecus up on the bench like the me7.5 vw audi ones,

    will a bdm100 clone on ebay do the job, or isnt it suitable for these chips?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimmer View Post
    incase things go wrong, what do i need to backup and repair ecus up on the bench like the me7.5 vw audi ones,

    will a bdm100 clone on ebay do the job, or isnt it suitable for these chips?
    Desolder flash chip and reprogram it with programmer is only way.

    Is better to copy/paste from one map to other and you are 100% that will work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfy View Post
    Desolder flash chip and reprogram it with programmer is only way.

    Is better to copy/paste from one map to other and you are 100% that will work.
    like load all the map info (parameters) into the leon file from the tt, but retain all the HW and SW numbers

    i have race2000 software will this work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimmer View Post
    like load all the map info (parameters) into the leon file from the tt, but retain all the HW and SW numbers

    i have race2000 software will this work?
    You have to do it manually one by one.
    I use ECM.

 

 
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