Bulld0gs Liverpool Thread

[andy4]

there were rumours of him coming to jjb
thank ~~~~ he went to pompey that was close

[bugaloo41]

lfc4life - King Kenny is surely the greatest player that Liverpool have ever had?

[lfc4life]

But surely there are more you could mention - keegan, rush, toshack , barnes, souness, emlyn hughes ......

[lfc4life]

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[bugaloo41]

But surely there are more you could mention - keegan, rush, toshack , barnes, souness, emlyn hughes ......

Souness certainly. Rush perhaps. Keegan nowhere close imho. I am not a Liverpool fan. I am a neutral when it comes to English football just interested in a pool fans view.

Talked to many over the years and without hesitation they all say Dalglish. Probably because i was boring them with how good a player he was.

He was the best player in the world in his day. Thats not just me that thought that that it was Souness as well.

Liverpool were the best British team I have seen (by a country mile). No one comes close not even Man U with Sir Alex and they are very good.

He wasnt a great manger mind. Dont know what went wrong with that one as all the greats tend to be Scottish.

[lfc4life]

And jamie carragher wears his heart on his sleeve and steven gerrard this guy is liverpool fc and there should be said in the same breath too

[Bulld0g]

Souness certainly. Rush perhaps. Keegan nowhere close imho. I am not a Liverpool fan. I am a neutral when it comes to English football just interested in a pool fans view.

Talked to many over the years and without hesitation they all say Dalglish. Probably because i was boring them with how good a player he was.

He was the best player in the world in his day. Thats not just me that thought that that it was Souness as well.

Liverpool were the best British team I have seen (by a country mile). No one comes close not even Man U with Sir Alex and they are very good.

He wasnt a great manger mind. Dont know what went wrong with that one as all the greats tend to be Scottish.

Kenny is by far the greatest player to wear the red of Liverpool. Older generation will say Billy Liddel. For me it's king Kenny.Not a great manager ? Maybe you need to look at that statement again. he was the first and only player manager to win the double and he won the title with Two different clubs. How many managers have won the title with two different clubs and not been called great.

[fabula]

Ryan Babel is very poor and Rafa should sell him in the Summer.

[lfc4life]

Ryan Babel is very poor and Rafa should sell him in the Summer.

Well this guy isin't half as bad as some of the other team members! and deserves a chance

[Sig-gotyouth]

this isn't a dig... but how many english championships till Manchester United have caught up with you?

I know you have more european cups but apart from that is it just championships you are ahead on?

[lfc4life]

its one

[Bulld0g]

this isn't a dig... but how many english championships till Manchester United have caught up with you?

I know you have more european cups but apart from that is it just championships you are ahead on?

Well lets say Utd have wone 4 more fa cups than us but apart from that we lead the way.

[bugaloo41]

Bulldog agree 100% on the player issue. He was streets ahead of anyone imho. Still dont think he was a great manager though and your team has had more than probably any other team i can think of. May be down to terminology mind. Some footballers today get called world class and they are journeyman in my eyes.

I would use the term great to describe men like Stein, Busby, Nicholson, Ferguson, Struth, Clough, Shankly, Paisley. There are many more you could list.

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KENNY DALGLISH has spoken this week of the FA Cup derby which forced his shock leaving of Liverpool.

And he admitted he is disappointed he was never asked back.

Dalglish's decision to resign just 48 hours after the incredible 4-4 draw in 1991 was one of the most sensational stories in Anfield history.

Rumours and wild speculation spiralled around the city - but the truth was that the intense pressures of management left him in a position where he felt his head "was going to explode."

He quit on February 22, 1991.

Seven weeks later Graeme Souness was appointed manager.

But Dalglish admits he had regrets within weeks of standing down.

"Aye, I regretted leaving," he said.

"This game against Everton for Rafa and the boys has brought back to me a time, probably for the first time in my career, when things weren't the happiest for me.

"I needed the break, I needed the rest. After two weeks I got what I needed and I'd have been ready to go back, but the phone never rang.

"No-one ever asked me how I was doing or whether I'd reconsider returning and the club went on and appointed Graeme.

"I went on the Friday after the 4-4 draw and then Alan Hansen went the week after me.

"But two weeks later I was ready to get back to it. I needed the break, though.

"This is the first FA Cup game against Everton since 1991 and my resignation, so there's all sorts of memories and feelings floating to the surface."

Kenny admits that it was the 4-4 draw with Everton which convinced him he needed a break.

"I knew that night I had to go," he explained. "After we took the lead for the final time I was standing on the touchline and I knew that I had to make a change to shore things up at the back.

"I could see what had to be done and what would happen if I didn't do it, but I didn't act on what I knew I had to do. That was the moment I knew.

"The wife was busy planning my 40th birthday and I just came in that night and told her I was done. I needed the break. I was shattered and Marina was stunned.

"I never fell out of love with the game, even now I still love it and you get those pangs of regret and thoughts of what might have been.

"I just needed to get away from the pressure. The club did offer some sort of extended break, but I didn't know when we had that conversation how long I needed.

"If I'd asked for a week, then needed another, and another after that then how were the club going to contend with that?

"Who was going to take over for that time and what was going to happen to results with uncertainty hanging over the whole of Anfield?

"That's why I felt it was better to resign while I got my head together. Big Alan Hansen went the week after me, going because of an injury.

"I suppose that it was an injury that finished my own Liverpool career in the end.

"Big Al's injury was a physical one and mine was more of a mental injury. Mine was something that healed.

"Leaving Liverpool was the first decision I'd made in my life, in more than 20 years. That was for the good of Kenny Dalglish and the Dalglish family and not the football club.

"That's how momentous it was for me.

"I took the break and felt refreshed and more like my old self after just a couple of weeks. But no-one from Liverpool called.

"I thought, maybe, considering what I'd been through and what I'd given to the club - with the success we had enjoyed - that someone might have called to see how I was and whether a return might be possible.

"But the club had other ideas, clearly, and went in another direction.

"I understood, but Liverpool had been my life and parting was one of the hardest things I did."

"I ended up at Blackburn feeling maybe like I had a point to prove - to myself as much as anything."


http://www.liverpoolbanter.co.uk/200...waiting-t.html
Just about sums up my thoughts about the powers that be at Liverpool fc.They don't give a flying one for anyone

this is just my personal opinion and i would be interested on your thoughts i have always thought that kenny dalglish got out because he knew liverpool were an ageing team and were on the slide and he knew they were going to take years of rebuilding,therefore making souness a scapegoat for for his reign.

therefore getting out before 5hit hit the fan so to speak

[Bulld0g]

I don't believe that for one minute m8. Souness was never a scapegoat for anyone. He came to Anfield and changed so many tried and trusted things. He changed the style of training which resulted in numerous players carrying the same type of injury yet at the time he denied this , only to admit it later.
He said maybe i tried to change too many things too quickly.

He also made some of the worse signings ever. Paul Stewart, Torben Piechnik, Istvan Kozma, Michael Thomas and Julian Dicks to name a few. However the biggest mistake he made was selling his story about his heart problems to the sun.

Dalglish left a team who were top of the league, with just over 2 months of the seson remaining. He resigned saying he couldn't cope any longer with the pressures of managing. Bear in mind Dalglish Attended lots of funerals after Hillsborough.

I remember watching Dalglish From the time of Hillsborough to his resignation and saying how he had aged, practically overnight. He looked haggard and drawn and always wore that big adidas coat no matter how hot it was.
In his autobiography he tells how all the pressure got to him and tells of the stress of attending numerous funerals and how it affected him. He said this was the reason for his resignation and i believe him.If he was going to resign for footballing reasons i think he would have waited till the end of the season.

The football played under Kenny's boys of 88 were amongst the best i've ever seen in my life. Barnes,Beardsley.Aldridge,Mcmahon and Rush. We used to take teams apart. When we played forest in the league in 88 we hammered them 5-0 prompting the great Tom Finney to say thats the best football i have ever seen played in all my life.
I've still got the highlights on an old vhs tape