Bulld0gs Liverpool Thread

**ipssoff** · 3rd January, 2012, 07:39 PM

Suarez and Liverpool not to appeal ban.

**zee24** · 3rd January, 2012, 07:41 PM

Yup ban starts today and Suarez will nxt be available against Spurs nxt month if Liverpool beat Oldham in the FA cup.

So finally we can draw a line under this whole saga

**zee24** · 3rd January, 2012, 07:45 PM

Statement from Luis Suarez: (from the LFC website)

First of all I would like to thank everyone so much for all the help and support I have received during these last few weeks.

Thank you to my family, my friends and everybody at LFC (the staff, manager and coaching staff, the directors, my team mates and everyone who is working on a daily basis for this great club) and thank you especially to all the fans who made sure I never felt let down for one second. During those days I understood more than ever what 'You'll Never Walk Alone' means.

Like many of you I was born into a very humble family, in a working class neighbourhood, in a small country. But I was born and raised learning what respect, manners and sacrifice mean. Thanks to my family, from my first club where I started playing, to my transfer to Holland in Europe, I learned the values which made me the person I am now. Never, I repeat, never, have I had any racial problem with a team mate or individual who was of a different race or colour to mine. Never.

I am very upset by all the things which have been said during the last few weeks about me, all of them being very far from the truth. But above all, I'm very upset at feeling so powerless whilst being accused of something which I did not, nor would not, ever do.

In my country, 'negro' is a word we use commonly, a word which doesn't show any lack of respect and is even less so a form of racist abuse. Based on this, everything which has been said so far is totally false.

I will carry out the suspension with the resignation of someone who hasn't done anything wrong and who feels extremely upset by the events. I do feel sorry for the fans and for my team mates whom I will not be able to help during the next month. It will be a very difficult time for me.

The only thing I wish for at the moment is being able to run out again at Anfield and to do what I like most which is playing football.

Thank you very much.
YNWA

**zee24** · 3rd January, 2012, 08:08 PM

The Official Liverpool statement:

It is our strongly held conviction that the Football Association and the panel it selected constructed a highly subjective case against Luis Suarez based on an accusation that was ultimately unsubstantiated.

The FA and the panel chose to consistently and methodically accept and embrace arguments leading to a set of conclusions that found Mr. Suarez to "probably" be guilty while in the same manner deciding to completely dismiss the testimony that countered their overall suppositions.
Mr. Evra was deemed to be credible in spite of admitting that he himself used insulting and threatening words towards Luis and that his initial charge as to the word used was somehow a mistake.

The facts in this case were that an accusation was made, a rebuttal was given and there was video of the match. The remaining facts came from testimony of people who did not corroborate any accusation made by Mr. Evra.

In its determination to prove its conclusions to the public through a clearly subjective 115-page document, the FA panel has damaged the reputation of one the Premier League's best players, deciding he should be punished and banned for perhaps a quarter of a season. This case has also provided a template in which a club's rival can bring about a significant ban for a top player without anything beyond an accusation.

Nevertheless, there are ultimately larger issues than whether or not Luis Suarez has been treated fairly by the Football Association in this matter. There are important points we want to make today that overshadow what has occurred during the past two months.

The issue of race in sports, as in other industries, has a very poor history. Far too often, and in far too many countries, the issues of racism and discrimination have been covered over or ignored.

In America, where Liverpool ownership resides, there was a shameful bigotry that prevented black athletes from competing at the highest levels for decades.

English football has led the world in welcoming all nationalities and creeds into its Premier League and its leagues below, and Liverpool Football Club itself has been a leader in taking a progressive stance on issues of race and inclusion. The Luis Suarez case has to end so that the Premier League, the Football Association and the Club can continue the progress that has been made and will continue to be made and not risk a perception, at least by some, that would diminish our commitment on these issues.

Liverpool Football Club have supported Luis Suarez because we fundamentally do not believe that Luis on that day - or frankly any other - did or would engage in a racist act. Notably, his actions on and off the pitch with his teammates and in the community have demonstrated his belief that all athletes can play together and that the colour of a person's skin is irrelevant.

Continuing a fight for justice in this particular case beyond today would only obscure the fact that the Club wholeheartedly supports the efforts of the Football Association, the Football League and the Premier League to put an end to any form of racism in English football.

It is time to put the Luis Suarez matter to rest and for all of us, going forward, to work together to stamp out racism in every form both inside and outside the sport.

It is for this reason that we will not appeal the eight-game suspension of Luis Suarez.

**wongers** · 3rd January, 2012, 08:08 PM

re andy and bellamy video:trust this cretin to bring this up anything to stir it up even if it is bollox, typical.

**zee24** · 3rd January, 2012, 08:13 PM

Man City Team:

Hart; Richards, Kolo Toure, Kompany, Clichy; Yaya Toure, Barry; Milner, Aguero, Silva; Dzeko.

Liverpool Team:

Reina, Enrique, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger,Spearing, Adam, Downing, Henderson, Kuyt, Carroll.

Subs: Doni, Gerrard, Maxi, Carragher, Shelvey, Kelly, Bellamy.

**zee24** · 3rd January, 2012, 08:21 PM

Now that Suarez will be a labelled a racist i wouldn't be suprised to see him leave come the summer. Until then when he does return i hope for the same attitude shown in his LFC career so far and maybe he can work on his finishng in training.

If he does go it won't be on the cheap.

Lets hope this is a blessing in disguise and Carroll n Bellamy form a partnership full of goals

**zee24** · 3rd January, 2012, 08:23 PM

If it wern't for the Carling cup we wouldn't see him back until March. If we drag out some draws in the FA cup he could be back alot sooner

**Bulld0g** · 3rd January, 2012, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by zee24

The Official Liverpool statement:

This case has also provided a template in which a club's rival can bring about a significant ban for a top player without anything beyond an accusation.

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I think we should have appealed it myself. The FA have themselves opened up a can of worms. They now have to find in favour of anyone who claims to have been racially abused, even if theres no evidence presented whatsoever.

**Walkinmyshadow** · 3rd January, 2012, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Bulld0g

Prediction 2-2

On it..Tenner with ladbrokes at 16/1

Originally Posted by Bulld0g

They now have to find in favour of anyone who claims to have been racially abused, even if theres no evidence presented whatsoever.

Only if they're caught openly saying it (Terry)
Or admitting saying it (suarez)

**zee24** · 3rd January, 2012, 11:13 PM

We were crap enough said!!

**Jaffa** · 3rd January, 2012, 11:39 PM

According to the stats, we had 16 shots (6 on target) to their 11 shots (4 on target) and we had 64% of play.

whoopee fekkin doo for stats...they mean nothing unless the stat that says goals is more than theirs.

I personally thought we were piss poor tonight.

As for not appealing...I wish they had appealed, after reading the 115 stitch up on probabily, I believe we had a chance BUT I totally respect the clubs decision, its probably for the greater good of football in general.

**zee24** · 3rd January, 2012, 11:47 PM

Well i hope when we go there nxt week Gerrard starts, Carroll needs service. I also don't know where Kuyt fits in this team his past few games hes been lost, bring on the transfer merry go round