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    Default Detroit 60 Series EGR to Non Egr

    I am starting this new thread because am receiving lot of calls from my customers to convert 03/04 60 series engines to non egr.All of them are tired of egr system.

    So all the dks, please share your experience if somebody had done that.What else have to be changed.

    I know somethings, link turbocharger, ecm programming.

    Please share.

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    Default WHY!!

    Quote Originally Posted by torqueman View Post
    I am starting this new thread because am receiving lot of calls from my customers to convert 03/04 60 series engines to non egr.All of them are tired of egr system.

    So all the dks, please share your experience if somebody had done that.What else have to be changed.

    I know somethings, link turbocharger, ecm programming.

    Please share.

    Thanks
    Why take the risk!! what if they get caught. They have tightened up on emmisions so much, who would pay the fine, it is like the guys that try to run the off road fuel in there trucks the officers at the scales have been known to look inside of the tanks, heavy fines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe5543 View Post
    Why take the risk!! what if they get caught. They have tightened up on emmisions so much, who would pay the fine, it is like the guys that try to run the off road fuel in there trucks the officers at the scales have been known to look inside of the tanks, heavy fines.
    Bro,
    That is their problem for fines and risks.We can just do our work but we can make sure that we should warn and talk to the customer about the risks.

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    If we all followed the rules what would happen to mans search for knowledge?I think this is a great post.Gonna be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe5543 View Post
    Why take the risk!! what if they get caught. They have tightened up on emmisions so much, who would pay the fine, it is like the guys that try to run the off road fuel in there trucks the officers at the scales have been known to look inside of the tanks, heavy fines.
    Also bro there are already some of the guys in US and Canada who are doing this by turning egr to non egr.

    SO if they can do that WHY can't we?

    I think its not a big deal if we will participate here we can build a engine which, NO DIESEL ENGINE MANUFACTURER HAD MADE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by torqueman View Post
    Also bro there are already some of the guys in US and Canada who are doing this by turning egr to non egr.

    SO if they can do that WHY can't we?

    I think its not a big deal if we will participate here we can build a engine which, NO DIESEL ENGINE MANUFACTURER HAD MADE!!!


    I think no body is having any idea for egr to non egr !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I see there are places offering ecm's to remove egr and dpf functions....Can't we do the same thing with our programming abilities here at DK? I would think so.

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    changing egr to non egr would be a very awesome thing to try hopefully someone does post some ideas i got a parked truck thats been there for over a year and the engine starts and runs i just cant run the truck but it will make a perfect test subject hopefully some do post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g0ne3 View Post
    changing egr to non egr would be a very awesome thing to try hopefully someone does post some ideas i got a parked truck thats been there for over a year and the engine starts and runs i just cant run the truck but it will make a perfect test subject hopefully some do post.
    Thats good idea,
    Try your best,by changing turbo,programming ecm to no egr, blocking egr cooler and blocking venturi tubes and also removing delta p sensor,egr temp sensor, hopefully it will work also have to change boost pressure sensor because old engines were having low boost than egr one's.

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    About four years ago, I was working on a DDEC V engine at a Freightliner Dealer and noticed that there was no EGR valve or cooler and all the plumbing had been removed. The coolant plumbing for the cooler was joined together in place of the EGR cooler. The engine seemed to run fine and I don't remember the check engine light being on, not to say that the bulb wasn't burned out. Unfourtantly I did not get to drive the truck. So I can say that it is being done.

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    Default EGR Removal

    Quote Originally Posted by torqueman View Post
    Thats good idea,
    Try your best,by changing turbo,programming ecm to no egr, blocking egr cooler and blocking venturi tubes and also removing delta p sensor,egr temp sensor, hopefully it will work also have to change boost pressure sensor because old engines were having low boost than egr one's.
    You have to change the oil pressure sensor also, because it has a different scale range than the non-egr. (It's a different part number). You don't need to change the vgt (variable geometry turbo), remove the actuator and fix it to a position giving 32 psi max (at full load) using a screw, remove egr cooler and tubing and block the holes. I guess you don't need to change the boost pressure sensor, it will work. That's it. Of course, you have to reprogram the ecm to a non-egr program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselbear View Post
    About four years ago, I was working on a DDEC V engine at a Freightliner Dealer and noticed that there was no EGR valve or cooler and all the plumbing had been removed. The coolant plumbing for the cooler was joined together in place of the EGR cooler. The engine seemed to run fine and I don't remember the check engine light being on, not to say that the bulb wasn't burned out. Unfourtantly I did not get to drive the truck. So I can say that it is being done.
    Maybe they left connected all the sensors and actuators, or, they changed the ecm or the ecm program.

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    I think this is going to be a trial and error situation.Im itching to try one.Just not had the chance yet.

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    i have done several cummins and they are rewriting the ecm file and reinstalling it. never rewrote one myself but a customer of mine has purchased several kits from a company. they sent a turbo and removed the vgt. we removed egr abd cooler and also removed dpf filters. truck runs great what a power difference with no exhaust res. would really like to see a detroit done have several i would like to do keep posting

 

 
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