Converting 60 Series EGR to Non Egr

[amishmafia00]

we should be able to do this with dct, the actuator on a vgt isn't like a wastegate actuator. if you "fix" it in the wrong position you will either have turbo overspeed or too much lag. do you need to go to the trouble of removing the egr cooler? if the egr valve doesn't open why do you need to remove anything or block anything off? I think that this can all be done in the ecm. so if everything is done in the ecm it would be much more dificult to tell if egr has been disabled.
As far as fines go. just remember that such modifications are "for off road use only"

[trucks]

you can do it with dct and leave the vgt,however the power and fuel mileage gains are much bigger with putting on an older style turbo and disabling the vgt output in the ecm.that also requires heavy modding of the smoke map as the non vgt will not build boost as quickly

[Juanincho]

we should be able to do this with dct, the actuator on a vgt isn't like a wastegate actuator. if you "fix" it in the wrong position you will either have turbo overspeed or too much lag. do you need to go to the trouble of removing the egr cooler? if the egr valve doesn't open why do you need to remove anything or block anything off? I think that this can all be done in the ecm. so if everything is done in the ecm it would be much more dificult to tell if egr has been disabled.
As far as fines go. just remember that such modifications are "for off road use only"

OK, you're right, you should put a wastegate on the fixed vsg turbo, and you can leave everything else there, but as trucks said, leaving the turbo as a old style or putting a single turbo (a friend of mine said a mack turbo works excellent) will help you with fuel economy and engine response. On the other hand, leaving the egr cooler would be a failure in the future and you'll be removing it sooner or later. Maybe.
And it would be better and faster reprogramming the ecm with a non egr program instead of changing parameters in dct, I've done this conversion two times and they haven't failed.

[Underpsi]

What parameters needs to be changed in DCT to remove it?

Is there a flash file available that you could just do a straight flash and be done with it? If so what is the number?

Thanks

[amishmafia00]

OK, you're right, you should put a wastegate on the fixed vsg turbo, and you can leave everything else there, but as trucks said, leaving the turbo as a old style or putting a single turbo (a friend of mine said a mack turbo works excellent) will help you with fuel economy and engine response. On the other hand, leaving the egr cooler would be a failure in the future and you'll be removing it sooner or later. Maybe.
And it would be better and faster reprogramming the ecm with a non egr program instead of changing parameters in dct, I've done this conversion two times and they haven't failed.

good point on the egr cooler failure, so you can take it off and send it to me, we use them as heat exchangers on stationary engines with filtered pond water and then run an air fan clutch so we get max power unless we absolutely need the fan. i would think that you could get the vgt to do better than a standard turbo but have never messed with one what about a compound turbo with the vgt as the small turbo, never done it but i wonder how it would work, if you could get it under the hood. the turbo's we use are a borg warner unit, if we buy 3 at a time we get them for pretty cheap, and it looks like the same turbo that PDI sells as their stage 2 turbo for $2600! Yikes! Is there a ddecv program without egr? i just figured there probably wasn't.

[amishmafia00]

i have done several cummins and they are rewriting the ecm file and reinstalling it. never rewrote one myself but a customer of mine has purchased several kits from a company. they sent a turbo and removed the vgt. we removed egr abd cooler and also removed dpf filters. truck runs great what a power difference with no exhaust res. would really like to see a detroit done have several i would like to do keep posting

i bet they didn't "remove the vgt" my gues is they swaped them out for a hx ($700 ish if i remember right) and took the vgt turbo, went over it and sold it. parts are not available for these turbos yet so the only options are new from cummins $3200 or reman frrom cummins $2800. ouch. Double ouch when mechanic doesn't clean out intake tubes properly and a piece goes through the new turbo and destroys it.

[acid325]

he exist a flash file but for engine do not go over 30 miles hour if you put this on a regular travel truck the piston rip inton 500 miles of road on a ddeck 5
a egr turbo on a detroit diesel dont go over 600 hp at wheel yes it go but dont have enough of air alot of boost but not alot of air and remove the egr is possible just work alot is more diffucult maybe if you try too buy an ecm too diesel spec and take the programmation but i now because im not far of him if you take is programmation you need more then the ecm too make it work.... that cost more then 6000
and take out the egr mecanicaly cost 6000 maybe 8000 depend on the price you paid the pieces... but you need a head injector harness sensor cam turbo and its work work great i make a couple like that...

[dieselman77]

If you want to do something like that you should call JBALL ecm in Canada they specialize in emissions deletion and they can probably change any other thing you would need to change to make ti work for you

[Emgo]

Turbo Resource Inc. located in Arizona can rebuild most VNT turbos. They even build some custom VNTs.

http://www.turboresource.com/

[torqueman]

You have to change the oil pressure sensor also, because it has a different scale range than the non-egr. (It's a different part number). You don't need to change the vgt (variable geometry turbo), remove the actuator and fix it to a position giving 32 psi max (at full load) using a screw, remove egr cooler and tubing and block the holes. I guess you don't need to change the boost pressure sensor, it will work. That's it. Of course, you have to reprogram the ecm to a non-egr program.[/QUOTE]


Dear,
Can you please tell me how to set the screw to 32 psi and how you can know that it is set to 32 psi.

Other things I can do but don;t know how to calibrate turbo to 32 psi .

Thanks

[Juanincho]

You have to change the oil pressure sensor also, because it has a different scale range than the non-egr. (It's a different part number). You don't need to change the vgt (variable geometry turbo), remove the actuator and fix it to a position giving 32 psi max (at full load) using a screw, remove egr cooler and tubing and block the holes. I guess you don't need to change the boost pressure sensor, it will work. That's it. Of course, you have to reprogram the ecm to a non-egr program.

Dear,
Can you please tell me how to set the screw to 32 psi and how you can know that it is set to 32 psi.

Other things I can do but don;t know how to calibrate turbo to 32 psi .

Thanks

To calibrate the turbo you have to do several road test, adjusting the vanes from some open, closing them a little, test again, using a mech boost gauge. 32 psi is the highest and safest value for s60 engines, at my experience.

[acid325]

he have a flashfile made for that i have it
just put the flash in the ecm open dddl and ajust the turbo maybe one hour that depend of each truck

[alsop]

Hope this helps with questions
downloadlink
https://rapidshare.com/files/4614564...0_Training.rar

[Vitamin]

I have built a simulator of DPS DDEC V - Look at heavy loaded truck with a virgin EGR
http://www.mediafire.com/?pl6j0z9ohpgl1r8
and the completely removed one
http://www.mediafire.com/?6uvd0ey05a7a70t

[ddmech]

How does this work?What program do you open it with?Thanks.