Register
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 42
  1. #1
    DK Veteran
    lwood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    city of angels
    Posts
    2,325
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    265
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,097
    Thanked in
    515 Posts

    Default UPA USB Mask 3K85K

    i just receive my new UPA USB, i have not move any jumpers, from upa usb. i am using external power. 12v 1A. this is my first module with UPA USB, its from a 04 Cadillac Escelade with Mask 3K85K = HC908AS60, i get errors when i press the Auto Baud Rate. (See pictures.) the pin out i am using MC68HC08AS20 PLCC52.
    also if i don't connect P9-26 VDD, P3-7 PTC3, i get the same error.
    on picture i see i get bad on P1-9 IRQ, i try taking off wire and solder back on 3 times.
    Help me figure this out
    Attached Images Attached Images

  2. #2
    DK Veteran
    ledojo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Los Angeles, California, USA
    Posts
    470
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    34
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    64
    Thanked in
    30 Posts

    Default

    I dont think you need external V supply--I use just USB power.

    I also switch back and forth from 3V to 5V when reading and writing, respectively.

    Not sure about the auto baud rate, but that should be okay. Just make sure the program recognizes the device when you plug it in.... Start the program and then plug in the device--it should show up in the log with serial number. If not, then double-check device driver installation.

    just click the 'read'
    Last edited by ledojo; 9th April, 2011 at 09:27 AM.

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to ledojo For This Useful Post:

    Brayn (12th March, 2019)

  4. #3
    DK Veteran
    ledojo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Los Angeles, California, USA
    Posts
    470
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    34
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    64
    Thanked in
    30 Posts

    Default

    oh.. just saw the pics... def just use USB power and the jumper is closed for 5V and software is 5V--without external V, you should be good.

    edit: just saw the error... an IRQ V err not Vdd... strange one there. double check your soldering. Still, try it without external V.
    Last edited by ledojo; 9th April, 2011 at 09:22 AM.

  5. #4
    DK Veteran
    credoline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Србија
    Posts
    3,912
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    702
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,258
    Thanked in
    948 Posts

    Default

    You must put MCU in Monitor mode, read some manual

  6. #5
    DK Veteran sl4ck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    449
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    65
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    106
    Thanked in
    45 Posts

    Default

    What do you mean with don?t connect P9-26 VDD, P3-7 PTC3? These two have to be connected to UPA wires.

    Almost for sure you don?t need external power supply, let jumper in USB Power, and also jumper in 5V.

    Conect all the wires like UPA datasheet say and lift Pin26-VDD from board, after that start software and connections on software (if they are green). If not, lift also Pin7-PTC3.
    Restart software again
    KTAG, PCMFlash, Galetto FGTech V54, Smok Multitiool UHDS, I/O Terminal, Fiat/Alfa IAW Bosch Decoder, UPA-USB, XPROG, FVDI, Orange5, Renolink, DiagBox, Can Clip, Xentry

  7. #6
    DK Veteran sl4ck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    449
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    65
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    106
    Thanked in
    45 Posts

    Default

    Before you lift VDD and PTC3 lift Pin 10 - Rst and try it, check connections in software.
    What can you see? Take a screenshot

    Also, ALWAYS hit Auto Baud Rate button before read
    Last edited by sl4ck; 9th April, 2011 at 09:58 AM.
    KTAG, PCMFlash, Galetto FGTech V54, Smok Multitiool UHDS, I/O Terminal, Fiat/Alfa IAW Bosch Decoder, UPA-USB, XPROG, FVDI, Orange5, Renolink, DiagBox, Can Clip, Xentry

  8. #7
    DK Veteran sl4ck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    449
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    65
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    106
    Thanked in
    45 Posts

    Default

    You may want to read it has MC68HC908AZ60A and use the following security bytes:

    $F9-$F1-$F9-$F4-$F9-$F7-$F9-$FA
    Last edited by sl4ck; 9th April, 2011 at 10:11 AM.
    KTAG, PCMFlash, Galetto FGTech V54, Smok Multitiool UHDS, I/O Terminal, Fiat/Alfa IAW Bosch Decoder, UPA-USB, XPROG, FVDI, Orange5, Renolink, DiagBox, Can Clip, Xentry

  9. #8
    DK Veteran
    lwood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    city of angels
    Posts
    2,325
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    265
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,097
    Thanked in
    515 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by sl4ck View Post
    What do you mean with don?t connect P9-26 VDD, P3-7 PTC3? These two have to be connected to UPA wires.

    Almost for sure you don?t need external power supply, let jumper in USB Power, and also jumper in 5V.

    Conect all the wires like UPA datasheet say and lift Pin26-VDD from board, after that start software and connections on software (if they are green). If not, lift also Pin7-PTC3.
    Restart software again
    what i mean is i don't have wires connected to pin 26VDD and pin 7PTC3, i get the same connection message.

  10. #9
    DK Veteran
    credoline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Србија
    Posts
    3,912
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    702
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,258
    Thanked in
    948 Posts

    Default

    Pin 9 on UUSB 9 pin port is +5V (use for Vdd)
    MCU pin PTC3 can be on GND (low level) or on +5V (high level state), make difference only in baudrate. ITS NOT in good state if voltage level on that pin is +2,4 V or 0,8V or similar.
    When you connect PTC3 to +5V use 1K resistor (not neccessery for MCU but UPA can be damaged if something is internally conected on board)
    IN MOST airbags you can read in circuit HC908AS60 (with lifting some pins), in some is possible only when unsolder MCU from board and conect on bench in the same way with adding xtal (4MHz for example).
    End of lesson now go and drink
    Last edited by credoline; 9th April, 2011 at 06:22 PM.

  11. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to credoline For This Useful Post:

    MV auto (18th April, 2016), zckariya70 (24th April, 2016)

  12. #10
    DK Veteran
    lwood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    city of angels
    Posts
    2,325
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    265
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,097
    Thanked in
    515 Posts

    Default

    First i try Lift pin 9 IRQ, i got the same connection message as the firts picture i posted.

    Then i lift pin 26VDD i get this message irq 0.77v bad (See Picture)


    then i lift pin 7PTC3, i get message IRQ 0.79V Bad (see Picture). Keep in mind all three pins are Lift
    Last edited by lwood; 9th April, 2011 at 11:19 PM.

  13. #11
    DK Veteran
    lwood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    city of angels
    Posts
    2,325
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    265
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,097
    Thanked in
    515 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by credoline View Post
    Pin 9 on UUSB 9 pin port is +5V (use for Vdd)
    MCU pin PTC3 can be on GND (low level) or on +5V (high level state), make difference only in baudrate. ITS NOT in good state if voltage level on that pin is +2,4 V or 0,8V or similar.
    When you connect PTC3 to +5V use 1K resistor (not neccessery for MCU but UPA can be damaged if something is internally conected on board)
    IN MOST airbags you can read in circuit HC908AS60 (with lifting some pins), in some is possible only when unsolder MCU from board and conect on bench in the same way with adding xtal (4MHz for example).
    End of lesson now go and drink
    Before i do this, Do put all the pins i lift back?
    ok. i will try this
    i put P9 -pin 9IRQ
    then i will Ground Pin 7PTC3.
    i will not add 5V to pin 7PTC3 because i don't have a 1k restore .
    Last edited by lwood; 9th April, 2011 at 06:51 PM.

  14. #12
    DK Veteran
    credoline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Србија
    Posts
    3,912
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    702
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,258
    Thanked in
    948 Posts

    Default

    In UPA 9 pin connector you must have IRQ pin to connect on MCU IRQ pin.
    I think UPA pin 1 is IRQ pin

  15. #13
    DK Veteran
    credoline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Србија
    Posts
    3,912
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    702
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,258
    Thanked in
    948 Posts

    Default

    Make connections like this:
    UPA: MCU:
    1 IRQ
    2 PTA0
    5 GND
    6 PTC0
    7 Reset
    8 PTC1
    9 Vdd

    After this check voltage on MCU pins, anyway pull up PTA0 always in airbags, others pins only if voltage not good and reset if UPA can not pull him down to 0v when try to read

  16. #14
    DK Veteran
    lwood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    city of angels
    Posts
    2,325
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    265
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,097
    Thanked in
    515 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by credoline View Post
    Pin 9 on UUSB 9 pin port is +5V (use for Vdd)
    MCU pin PTC3 can be on GND (low level) or on +5V (high level state), make difference only in baudrate. ITS NOT in good state if voltage level on that pin is +2,4 V or 0,8V or similar.
    When you connect PTC3 to +5V use 1K resistor (not neccessery for MCU but UPA can be damaged if something is internally conected on board)
    IN MOST airbags you can read in circuit HC908AS60 (with lifting some pins), in some is possible only when unsolder MCU from board and conect on bench in the same way with adding xtal (4MHz for example).
    End of lesson now go and drink
    i try this method. first with the three pins lift. then the three pins back in place. i have PTC3 ground ,see picture for errors.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by lwood; 9th April, 2011 at 11:20 PM.

  17. #15
    DK Veteran
    credoline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Србија
    Posts
    3,912
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    702
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,258
    Thanked in
    948 Posts

    Default

    Yes, i see, problem with Reset. Try to lift and try not to lift Reset, other pins do not change.

    We can continue conversation in monday, i must go in caffe bar to drink beer, tonight is best night for that.
    Last edited by credoline; 9th April, 2011 at 07:39 PM.

 

 
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
This website uses cookies
We use cookies to store session information to facilitate remembering your login information, to allow you to save website preferences, to personalise content and ads, to provide social media features and to analyse our traffic. We also share information about your use of our site with our social media, advertising and analytics partners.