Which Clone tool to Buy?? UPA USB or XPROG_M

[paraver]

Sorry for asking this question, because it was been debated many times on DK.

After reading many topics, i still have some doubts.

Which one is best? Do i need to have both of them?

XPROG M Is better because authorizations?
UPA USB Does have the same authorizations?

I know that some like xprog and others like upa, but i want to find out the best one for the lowest money possible

Best Regards,
P

[dyc]

Yes , You need to have both of them

[diga1]

you need both

[digimile]

hi
no one u dont need upa clone becasue original and clone price almost same .And xprog m's clone is not good becasue serious devices it stuck.
Its my opnion
thanxk

[paraver]

Can i read protected motorola hc12 with upa? Or i need xprog for it?

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[Zmann]

HC912 according to its list, yes but the mcu needs to be removed and put it on a special adapter.

9S12 completely no.

Xprox does both groups if with authorisation

[cqae]

id say upa + x-prog clone is a good start

[paraver]

My problem is buying products from china because of customs... if i bought from there an XPROG-M for 120 ou 140dlrs i'll pay around 80eur more to customs and taxes.

I've seen this item from a company in Poland:

http://www.telwis.pl/xprogt-hc12hc11...-set-p-72.html

What's the difference from the chinese clone? This one doesn't have Authorizations?

I saw also on that page a Wellon VP-280. What do you think of it, compared to UPA?

[exe123]

My problem is buying products from china because of customs... if i bought from there an XPROG-M for 120 ou 140dlrs i'll pay around 80eur more to customs and taxes.

I've seen this item from a company in Poland:

http://www.telwis.pl/xprogt-hc12hc11...-set-p-72.html

What's the difference from the chinese clone? This one doesn't have Authorizations?

I saw also on that page a Wellon VP-280. What do you think of it, compared to UPA?

This is the old xprog which will only work with Win98. No support for Winxp!

Get xprog-m from china and upa-usb original from elrasoft.eu

[Holtek]

no one u dont need upa clone becasue original and clone price almost same.

Really?

Original: ?272 with tax

http://shareit1.element5.com/program...556a1cd5919b14

Chinese Clone: ?138 including shipping

UUSP UPA USB Serial Programmer Full Package V1.2 | eBay UK

I can see the difference in price. Skipping the issue of software updates and technical support. Only compare the price of the original programmer and clone. The price difference is twice.

[olegario]

Guy's why you counting few $ more or less , if with two or three jobs you will recover all?

[paraver]

I'm counting because there are too much competition and prices are very very low, and i don't have many jobs.

After getting some more work i'm buying one after another...

How about wellon programmer? Seems better than upa, what do you say?

[olegario]

First of all you must know how you will use it , what for? All programmers do the same job , read/write chip. Only difference is in specialization of some of them.

[paraver]

I know how to use them, i just want to know which are the best tools for price/quality.

All this clones are like mobile phone unlock devices... it's a business... avery week you need to buy one different for the same thing!

Thanks

[faiscamix]

HC912 according to its list, yes but the mcu needs to be removed and put it on a special adapter.

9S12 completely no.

Xprox does both groups if with authorisation

HC912b32 i was reading today one on board of ecu . After last update that i've made it come with connections with that mcu , the other i will see when i will need.
Upa buy original. Every day that passes i love more the tool (i started by hating it). It is the tool that gave me more profit with exeption of my first soldering iron. After you are used to use it, it takes less and less time to program the supported devices. I take less time to clear an airbag ecu using it (average of course) than using an xeltec or elnec programmer with adapter. Down part is that sometimes i have to go to look for datasheets.

BR