Detroit Diesel Drumroll Engineering

**kenworth908** · 28th March, 2013, 04:25 AM

hi guys I am looking for a drum roll version 7.08 id d7-67-75-53-f3 thanks

**elslow** · 28th March, 2013, 05:03 AM

can you share 7.08 thank you

**kenworth908** · 28th March, 2013, 05:43 PM

I would elslow if I knew how

**kenworth908** · 4th April, 2013, 04:44 AM

can anyone help? with this

**cyph8r1975** · 4th April, 2013, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by kenworth908

hi guys I am looking for a drum roll version 7.08 id d7-67-75-53-f3 thanks

55-12-3B-2E-79

**kenworth908** · 4th April, 2013, 07:19 PM

thanks bud

**Thecell** · 13th April, 2013, 11:38 PM

Oh, how the software worked, when you hook up it does a full system scan on the truck. It then sends that information to the network and after the check, the tech can move on. It takes about 3 min to do. If there is a change, you get a warning that the ECM has been "footprinted" and a code goes into the ecm. It then loads to the manufacturer and pulls your node id. (that is the esc you are using to connect) It then pulls up all the stamps of who connected and shows what they changed in a special file that gets sent. Then a notice comes up that says "warranty voided" in big letters. The customer who owns the vehicle will then receive a print out of who, what, how, and why of warranty void with a number to call. The customer then has to call the number. The tech can then only pull codes and can't clear them, and truck is in derate mode until owner calls the number and gets a code put in the network to remove the derate.

The high question we asked was how can they derate if vehicle is owned by someone else. Response, they own the proprietary information and the warranty. Therefore, they can derate the same as DEF, CES, DPF, engine protect, etc. Difference is they are derating for mandatory customer notification to protect their proprietary information. I can see the lawsuits already...

**Thecell** · 13th April, 2013, 11:40 PM

As of January 2013 it will be detected. That is for Cummins and Detroit both since the Detroit uses the Cummins turbo and exhaust system. They joined together to create a parameter check program that will scan all users registered on DCSN and Insite. If anyone hooked up and is not registered and (here is the big one) if the ECM program shows any version placed that is not done by a dealer or certified shop, your warranty is out the window. I just did a training class for Van Hool (who is introducing a truck next year) and was trained with the new software for both companies. Too many claims to later learn ECM changes were made. They are cracking down and doing it hard. So beware of any future ECM changes.

It shocked me to learn that info. Now you have to verify these shops hooking up have a active license for the software and not a bootleg. Then if ECM changes, they better be an approved shop or you just lost their warranty.

Oh, all registrants will be mailed a certificate in December to post and make visible to the customer so they can verify the registration with expiration dates.

The companies are changing the way us shops will be doing business.

**parezoo** · 14th April, 2013, 11:41 PM

Well i these only is possible if the computer is connected to the Internet though! otherwise i don't see how hey detect it!?

**Thecell** · 15th April, 2013, 02:31 AM

Hey Parezzo,
Every time the ECM is accessed it leaves an ID footprint. If you don't have an ID assigned from Detroit, the footprint is left either blank or an unauthorized ID. Both Cummins and Detroit have a zero tolerance policy to deny warranty claims with an ECM that has been "signed" with an unauthorized ID. While the only time they can see it is at an authorized dealer, if you need warranty work, your DONE!

Their concept is that they own the IP and are only "lending it" to you...as I said before, the lawyers are going to get rich...

**Z71** · 23rd April, 2013, 01:05 AM

Could I please get a key for PC ID: E2-9C-46-F0-6C

Thanks in advance!!!

**Thecell** · 25th April, 2013, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by cyph8r1975

55-12-3B-2E-79

So you are using read write level 3 to generate on KG?

Thanks

**Thecell** · 25th April, 2013, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Z71

Could I please get a key for PC ID: E2-9C-46-F0-6C

Thanks in advance!!!

60-E9-08-8D-E6

**Thecell** · 25th April, 2013, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by kenworth908

can anyone help? with this

can you email the files? If so, I can then post to the appropriate links for DKers.

**hoochyates** · 28th May, 2013, 09:14 AM

Just a note on what I have found. DDDE can not change and then flash MOST parameters directly. The file must be uploaded from mcm/cpc, decrypted, edited in MS Excel, encrypted then flashed back with DDDE.

As far as detroit and cummins monitoring access and changes on individual control modules, that is simply not true. It is a fact that changes to certain parameters do create an entry in the audit trail, however, the audit trail data is NEVER examined unless an event occurs which would justify an investigation into that particular unit. Also, if a user is using software that is not "registered" in the proper way, the tool id will be untraceable.