:eek: More piracy sites faced with blocking...

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...as BPI contacts UK ISPs

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The legal process to block the latest selection of sites could be swifter than in the past, one lawyer says


The UK's major internet service providers have been asked to block three more file-sharing websites, the BBC can reveal.

The British Phonographic Industry (BPI), which acts on behalf of rights holders, wants ISPs to prevent access to Fenopy, H33t and Kickass Torrents

The BPI alleges that the sites are illegally distributing music.

The ISPs told the BBC they would comply with the new demand, but only if a court order is put in place.

It follows a separate court order in April which saw popular file-sharing site The Pirate Bay blocked in the UK.

The biggest ISP, BT, said it was also "currently considering" its options.

The letter, which was not intended to go public, was sent to six ISPs last week, namely BT, Sky, Virgin Media, O2, EE and TalkTalk.

It is understood that the BPI is hoping all three sites will be blocked before Christmas - far more quickly than the process has taken previously.

According to web monitoring firm Nielsen, over a million unique users from the UK visited the three websites in September.

Pirate Bay precedent

In April, the BPI was successful in getting a high court judge to order the same six ISPs to block The Pirate Bay, which was regarded as one of the most visited file-sharing websites on the web.

"Like The Pirate Bay, these websites are profiting illegally from distributing music that isn't theirs, without permission and without paying a penny to the musicians, writers and producers who created it," a spokesman for the BPI told the BBC.

"It is plain wrong. The existence of these sites damages the growth of Britain's burgeoning digital music sector."

Over the following months, all of the ISPs complied with the ruling, blocking access to the site for their customers.

With this latest request, the BPI is looking to avoid such a lengthy process.

However, none of the ISPs said they were prepared to block the sites voluntarily, and would only do so if forced by the courts.

Adam Rendle, a copyright specialist with London-based law firm TaylorWessing, said it is possible that the process to block Fenopy, H33t and Kickass Torrents could be quicker than in previous cases thanks to precedents set previously.

"Whether the BPI can do that in time for Christmas is a question of the court's availability," he said.

"Two months to issue the proceedings and get a decision? It's ambitious but it's not impossible - if the court can be convinced that it should be dealt with that quickly."

Loss of traffic

Jim Killock, a campaigner with the Open Rights Group, argued that consumers' interests were not being properly represented.

"Web blocking is an extreme response," he told the BBC.

"If courts are being asked to block websites they need to be taking into consideration the rights of users and any legitimate usage of those sites.

"It isn't clear whether a conversation between a judge, ISPs and rights holders is going to sufficiently represent the needs of users."

Critics of website blocking say it is ineffective.
According to Nielsen, traffic to The Pirate Bay site has dropped by three quarters since a court order it to be blocked in the UK.

Days after the Pirate Bay blocking, various other services were set up allowing users to access the site through alternative means.

One ISP, which did not want to be named, revealed that despite an initial dip, illegal download traffic on its network recovered quickly within a just a week of the Pirate Bay block.

However, the BPI defended the action, saying that the block had a significant effect on the amount of traffic visiting the Pirate Bay site.

This claim is backed up by Nielsen, who told the BBC that since the April court order, The Pirate Bay has lost three quarters of its visitors.
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[Shady]

as we all knows its now impossible to get on tpb since the court ruling

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[gizmo.1484]

What a joke... What made me laugh, was the comment about the record company's and artists losing out on there earnings because of file sharing. Like they don't earn enough anyway.

[masur123]

Like I said before, in order for this to be measured as an effective deterent, the record companies would need to open their accounts to the courts. This way the courts would then see if there was indeed any financial impact to the record companies. I think you will find there is little or no impact at all.

[Canker_Canison]

The BPI alleges that the sites are illegally distributing music.

Since when did the British Phonographic Industry care about music sales? I never realized lift music was so sought after

However, the BPI defended the action, saying that the block had a significant effect on the amount of traffic visiting the Pirate Bay site.

If I remember this correctly TPB saw an increase in traffic before & after the ban.
The only people who still think you can't access TPB are the BPI & people who can't google 'how to access TPB'

There's only reason this round has tried to be done on the quiet. It's because all it does is advertise to people where they can get movies/music for free. The ban comes in about a week after the mirror sites are launched.
End product, more illegal downloading.

Thank you BPI

[ACDC]

Indeed it is a joke...and very ineffective. They think they managed to shut down tpb and yet it is STILL online. Also tpb may have lost some traffic as they state it (though I doubt it, since they weren't down for that long), but it is still online, they didn't manage to stop it, they failed....these copyright companies only manage to make fools of themselves.
It's a fact that torrent is the most effective way of sharing stuff...practically it's unstoppable.

[Hoppy01]

What a joke... What made me laugh, was the comment about the record company's and artists losing out on there earnings because of file sharing. Like they don't earn enough anyway.

Yep and the internet hasn't promoted their band in any way, a mean nobody ever buys tickets online, iTunes doesn't exist and record labels never showcase new bands on their websites.

If the record industry wants to know why sales have dropped then maybe they should look at the pi** quality of music they are promoting these days.

[vorlon2257]

TOR , VPN anyone, LOL so much for blocking sites

[thered]

i think in a lot of ways free downloads actually help artists


Way back in the day when i were a lad we all used to tape the charts everyone did it on sunday

then what happened after that is if you really liked someone you would get the original either on tape or record. then that turned to cd

without that i wouldnt have bought a lot of stuff because it was only the free listens that got me into it

same goes for free downloads now it also gives the artist a bigger fan base for tours ect that may not have been there otherwise


clothing can work on a similar scale people buy counterfeit because they cant afford a real one but when the get the counterfeit brand they aspire to get a real one of a name they would never have cared about if they never got the dodgy one first

[Frogger]

i think in a lot of ways free downloads actually help artists


Way back in the day when i were a lad we all used to tape the charts everyone did it on sunday

then what happened after that is if you really liked someone you would get the original either on tape or record. then that turned to cd

without that i wouldnt have bought a lot of stuff because it was only the free listens that got me into it

same goes for free downloads now it also gives the artist a bigger fan base for tours ect that may not have been there otherwise


clothing can work on a similar scale people buy counterfeit because they cant afford a real one but when the get the counterfeit brand they aspire to get a real one of a name they would never have cared about if they never got the dodgy one first

We live in a material world where labels are worth more than anything to some people, as is their right.

[Frogger]

as we all knows its now impossible to get on tpb since the court ruling

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It is true LOL situation indeed. The BPI must think people dont know what scripts were invented for in the first pace.....Access to info

[smokin]

TOR , VPN anyone, LOL so much for blocking sites

exactly...I use a vpn account and can pretend to be almost anywhere I want to, when I download.

[Frogger]

exactly...I use a vpn account and can pretend to be almost anywhere I want to, when I download.

Jokingly......

Tut Tut. Your just downright immoral. Your probably one of those terror like people who pays the window cleaner and lemonade man in CASH?

Frogger-->>> Shakes his head in disbelief.

Until the Feds kick your door in and say "ello ello ello, whats all these default network locations doing here on all your Comps" "and why so many blank dvds?"

LOL

I thought I saw VPL. Visible Panty Line ........