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    on sky sports news Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson says clubs must stamp out diving | Manchester United News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports ... i wonder who he is getting at ?


    Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson believes it is down to England's clubs to deal with players who dive because it is so difficult for the Football Association.

    There have been calls for retrospective action against divers and the issue of simulation was brought up at the two-day League Managers Association conference at St George's Park earlier in the week.

    Ferguson feels it is down to the clubs rather than the FA to impose their own discipline, admitting that he did have to lecture Cristiano Ronaldo about the matter during his early days at Old Trafford.

    "Do the sanctions come from the club or the FA?" said Ferguson.

    "The FA have a problem because is it legal? How can they prove a lad has purposely dived?

    "It is very difficult. The FA have always said that. Does it go to the clubs? At the end of the day it probably does."

    Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers this week voiced his displeasure after Luis Suarez admitted to diving in a match against Stoke earlier this season, although the FA have indicated they will not be reviewing the incident.

    "The FA could react," said Ferguson.

    "I haven't a view on it myself because I don't know much about the interview, apart from what I have read in the sense he admitted the dive."

    Ferguson insists he has not been afraid to bring up the subject of diving with his players when it has been appropriate, adding: "We did it with Cristiano.

    "He was only a young boy when he came to us and it took him a couple of years to understand. But after that he was fine.

    "There is a connection to the foreign players coming into our game I don't think there is any doubt about that."

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    FERGIE TOLD US TO DIVE - STAM | Manchester United News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports

    MANCHESTER UNITED defender Jaap Stam has caused a further stir in his autobiography by claiming that Sir Alex Ferguson encouraged his side to dive in an attempt to earn penalties when playing in Europe.

    The Dutchman says that the English players in the squad found it hard to adopt the policy of going to ground easily, but that Ferguson believed that it was fair game on the continent.

    "It's got to the stage where he has even told us: 'Don't try and stay on your feet if you're in the box and get a slight kick," Stam revealed in his autobiography being serialised in the Mirror.

    "He wants us to copy other sides we face in European competitions and go down to win a penalty.

    "Far too often English players seem determined to keep running after getting a whack on the leg, even though the chance to get a shot in has gone.

    "I don't think diving has caught on with the English youngsters yet, as their fair-play mentality stops them from taking a tumble.

    "Coaches at academy levels are honest and would stamp out that kind of cheating from their team.

    Stam says that he does not advocate diving, as he is often penalised as a result of a forward going to ground under one of his challenges.

    "I admit to becoming frustrated by the frequency of diving in the Champions League.

    "Players from Holland and Scandinavia aren't divers, but those from Spain and Italy go down far too easily for my liking.

    "Even players in Germany are used to taking a dive. In all those countries it looks like they have been brought up with it since their schooldays.

    "It's tricky for me to take a dive, though. If I fall down under the slightest kick, I'm going to look stupid falling down like I've been shot."




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    Quote Originally Posted by zee24 View Post
    FERGIE TOLD US TO DIVE - STAM | Manchester United News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports

    MANCHESTER UNITED defender Jaap Stam has caused a further stir in his autobiography by claiming that Sir Alex Ferguson encouraged his side to dive in an attempt to earn penalties when playing in Europe.

    The Dutchman says that the English players in the squad found it hard to adopt the policy of going to ground easily, but that Ferguson believed that it was fair game on the continent.

    "It's got to the stage where he has even told us: 'Don't try and stay on your feet if you're in the box and get a slight kick," Stam revealed in his autobiography being serialised in the Mirror.

    "He wants us to copy other sides we face in European competitions and go down to win a penalty.

    "Far too often English players seem determined to keep running after getting a whack on the leg, even though the chance to get a shot in has gone.

    "I don't think diving has caught on with the English youngsters yet, as their fair-play mentality stops them from taking a tumble.

    "Coaches at academy levels are honest and would stamp out that kind of cheating from their team.

    Stam says that he does not advocate diving, as he is often penalised as a result of a forward going to ground under one of his challenges.

    "I admit to becoming frustrated by the frequency of diving in the Champions League.

    "Players from Holland and Scandinavia aren't divers, but those from Spain and Italy go down far too easily for my liking.

    "Even players in Germany are used to taking a dive. In all those countries it looks like they have been brought up with it since their schooldays.

    "It's tricky for me to take a dive, though. If I fall down under the slightest kick, I'm going to look stupid falling down like I've been shot."
    as always " the past " and not the present. from historic liverpool history.
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    But let's not forget that the past once was the present

    THE TRUTH
    The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

    Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
    The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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    As always obsessed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DopeyGal97 View Post
    I've Always wanted to dive !

    I recommend you try the didier drogba school of diving...........

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5nSnF6l0c4]Drogba Diving School - YouTube[/ame]
    I know you believe you understand what you think i said



    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    I am not sure you realise that what you heard is not what i meant !

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    As Gary Neville said yesterday, Dempsey should have taken a tuble when Evra put in a tackle - would have got the pen and Man U down to 10 men.

    Maybe we should applaud that he didn't in equal measure and popularise the times people don't go down?

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    Stam was a great defender!

 

 

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