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    Default avdi hacked again? fly fvdi

    looks like avdi has been hacked again by the makers of fly tools.

    FLY Vehicle Diagnostic Interface (FVDI)

    FLY Vehicle Diagnostic Interface in abbreviated FVDI is last generation diagnostic interface for vehicles and trucks
    produced from our company. It works the same as AVDI(ABRITES Vehicle Diagnostic Interface).
    Currently FVDI is distributed with following diagnostic software:
    1. ABRITES Commander for VAG - VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda
    2. ABRITES Commander for Porsche
    3. ABRITES Commander for Mercedes/Smart/Maybach
    4. ABRITES Commander for OPEL/VAUXHALL
    5. ABRITES Commander for BMW
    6. ABRITES Commander for Peugeot/Citroen
    7. ABRITES Commander for Fiat/Alfa/Lancia
    8. Abrites Commander for Renault
    9. Abrites Commander for Toyota/Lexus
    10. Abrites Commander for Hyundai/KIA
    11. Abrites Commander for Nissan/Infiniti
    12. ABRITES TAG Key Tool

    theres currently one on aliexpress for 4000 USD, bad new for abritus and you guys that have spent ??? if its been clone properly this time.

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    it can't be cloned properly, unless information from abritus was constantly being leaked and it would not take them long to work that out

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    Quote Originally Posted by impactops View Post
    it can't be cloned properly, unless information from abritus was constantly being leaked and it would not take them long to work that out
    it could be cloned properly, the only thing protecting it is the burnt in serial on the hardware, if they could change that it would be clone straight away 100% but obviously not that easy to change the serial

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    This has been covered all before, i suggest you read some of the avdi threads.If they don't release new updates each time advi do, then you'll know that they are no different than all the other avdi clones

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    Quote Originally Posted by impactops View Post
    This has been covered all before, i suggest you read some of the avdi threads.If they don't release new updates each time advi do, then you'll know that they are no different than all the other avdi clones
    obviously the serial will get blacklisted so no updates. The other clones did not work properly so if this does then of course it will be different also they claim all commanders.

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    I suggest you read some of my posts regarding advi, cause if you think that it's all to do with the serial your surely mistaken

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    vag commander up to which version is coverd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by impactops View Post
    I suggest you read some of my posts regarding advi, cause if you think that it's all to do with the serial your surely mistaken
    I never said their entire protection is a serial did I, if you defeat the security and get the firmware and any keys stored in ram which any clone must of done, then if it was possible to change the hardware id how would it not be 100% clone as you wouldn't need to touch any code so how could the firmware or software detect a clone.

    Obviously you can't just change the burnt in hardware id unless the chip design is massively flawed.

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    also by the look of the picture of the new clone there seems to be a lot bigger pin count on what ever chip they've used, so maybe they've emulated the chip allowing them to change the ID to whatever they want

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    Let me put it to you this way paul, do you think that if you had 2 identical advi with the same features enabled that the whole reason why you can't run the software intended for interface A on interface B is because of the ID?

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    Quote Originally Posted by impactops View Post
    Let me put it to you this way paul, do you think that if you had 2 identical advi with the same features enabled that the whole reason why you can't run the software intended for interface A on interface B is because of the ID?
    what relevance is that? it doesn't matter if they modify each software and/or firmware we are not talking about interchanging the software.

    IF it was possible to change any chip id and you then put unmodified firmware including and ram contents etc would the software of the cloned original not work 100% in the clones?

    Also I'm not talking about updates as it will be pretty safe to say even if they've completly cracked avdi encrption of the software etc and could supply updates abritus would be forced to change security so it wouldn't last long.

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    If it does work properly say bye to the locksmithing industry for a little while. I've always said China is getting better which is bad news for most, good for some.

    I don't understanding nothing you guys are saying, but vvdi was cloned? seems to work..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkz02 View Post
    If it does work properly say bye to the locksmithing industry for a little while. I've always said China is getting better which is bad news for most, good for some.

    I don't understanding nothing you guys are saying, but vvdi was cloned? seems to work..
    hopefully they will keep the price high to be too much for the sbb/mvp part timers

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_12345 View Post
    what relevance is that? it doesn't matter if they modify each software and/or firmware we are not talking about interchanging the software..
    That is the whole reason why you can't clone it, it has nothing to do with the hardware ID

    Quote Originally Posted by paul_12345 View Post
    IF it was possible to change any chip id and you then put unmodified firmware including and ram contents etc would the software of the cloned original not work 100% in the clones?..
    You're stuck on the hardware ID, which you can overcome by modifying the software to ignore it, but you can't ignore just one of the chips features like triple DES encryption keys stored in it's ram via battery backup, but your still stuck on the hardware ID.

    Quote Originally Posted by paul_12345 View Post
    Also I'm not talking about updates as it will be pretty safe to say even if they've completly cracked avdi encrption of the software etc and could supply updates abritus would be forced to change security so it wouldn't last long.
    You're willing to fork out $4000 for an interface that won't last long and cannot be updated???

    Then it's no zfvucking cloned then is it captain, the whole definition of a cloned interface to me means that the cloned interface is identical to the original that the original software can run on the clone and it won't know the difference regardless of updates it will still work.

    Now why do you think they charge alot even for clones, because they have to purchase the original interface with the features thay want on their clones and use those details on there interfaces and still be able to make a profit at the end of the day on something which is limited only to the features they have copied.

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    You wait 'till the clone of the clone will come out. Then the price war will start. Like anything made in China, price will come down. Wonder if it does what it says on the tin.

 

 
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