Mercedes key programming

[Fallen]

interesting...

how long it takes to make a key?

and you tell your customer "$480 from dealer....2 or 3 days....$480 from me, today"....it it not worth the time?

$100 for a used key
$25 for new shell and blade.
Your down $125 before you even start.
If everything goes well it will take you approx 2 hrs to complete if you are carefull.

Not sure about other people but my time is worth more than that.
I used to charge $650 for a key and it was worth it.

I would rather sit on a beach and go broke than work and go broke!

[ray-ray]

Fallen is 100% correct. Just add dark glasses & little tan lines, cold drink. There are other makes with bigger issue that will pay more.

[aassfour]

dont know why it would take 2 hours for benz key making
reading the EIS plus soldering wires takes maximum 5 to 10 minutes
if the EIS is 209 or 211 it takes maximum 2 minutes to read with the xprog cable , or 10 minutes with rosfar
key generating takes 10 minutes exactly meanwhile u prepare the nec
writing the key dump on nec plus soldering it takes 5 minutes
the whole process takes maximum 30 minutes

[TRISIEN]

I mercedes key and how do I want this motorola BLANK key OF82B thank you

[rrador]

dont know why it would take 2 hours for benz key making
reading the EIS plus soldering wires takes maximum 5 to 10 minutes
if the EIS is 209 or 211 it takes maximum 2 minutes to read with the xprog cable , or 10 minutes with rosfar
key generating takes 10 minutes exactly meanwhile u prepare the nec
writing the key dump on nec plus soldering it takes 5 minutes
the whole process takes maximum 30 minutes

You are forgetting the part that takes the longest.....I have not on worked on too many of benzes but on some of them it takes a long time to take EIS out and put back in the car....programing is the easy part.

[aassfour]

You are forgetting the part that takes the longest.....I have not on worked on too many of benzes but on some of them it takes a long time to take EIS out and put back in the car....programing is the easy part.

most my work with benz is when they bring me the EIS on its own without the car
but if the car is here it will take about 10 to 15 minutes to take out the EIS
not hard anymore if u get use to it and know wt to disassemble
u can give this job to one of ur staff

its not an easy job but at the end its not a hard job
with practise it will get much easier

[rrador]

most my work with benz is when they bring me the EIS on its own without the car
but if the car is here it will take about 10 to 15 minutes to take out the EIS
not hard anymore if u get use to it and know wt to disassemble
u can give this job to one of ur staff

its not an easy job but at the end its not a hard job
with practise it will get much easier

Well that is true I remember first couple of them I worked on it took me long time because I did not know how to disassemble it, it goes a lot quicker now.

[ninja123]

any pictures or info on EIS removal for us who have never had the joys of doing this job yet?

ninja

[labusas]

On S class remove through the radio opening. Not hard to remove radio, check youtube for that.
On C class remove bottom lid, remove side triangle panel, remove all screws there sot the whole left side of panel moves forward a bit. Now the panel will give a bit and allow pulling out at the panel below EZS. Now with little jiggle it will be able to slide down the panel bypassing damn aluminum cage. But you really have to PULL on that panel to make room... this for US cars right hand drive
Any other hints?

[aassfour]

honestly i ve learned how to take out the EIS from youtube at first, first time took me about 1 hour to take out the EIS of W203, with practise u will reach to take it out in 10 minutes, for european BENZ there is no aluminium cage so its much easier
to learn how to take it out , youtube and google are the best place to learn

[rob13572468]

guys key prices (at least here in US) just went back *up*... add to that DAS4 and things are going to get interesting....

[labusas]

Hi, Aassfour
Do you force it out of the bottom for w203?

[Fallen]

dont know why it would take 2 hours for benz key making
reading the EIS plus soldering wires takes maximum 5 to 10 minutes
if the EIS is 209 or 211 it takes maximum 2 minutes to read with the xprog cable , or 10 minutes with rosfar
key generating takes 10 minutes exactly meanwhile u prepare the nec
writing the key dump on nec plus soldering it takes 5 minutes
the whole process takes maximum 30 minutes

I made a post about this in the dash section a while back explaining the while process in detail to somebody else who had also never done it.

The longer you are in the game the more realistic you are with your times.
Sometimes it takes 10 mins just to strip the old key down.

[impactops]

dont know why it would take 2 hours for benz key making
reading the EIS plus soldering wires takes maximum 5 to 10 minutes
if the EIS is 209 or 211 it takes maximum 2 minutes to read with the xprog cable , or 10 minutes with rosfar
key generating takes 10 minutes exactly meanwhile u prepare the nec
writing the key dump on nec plus soldering it takes 5 minutes
the whole process takes maximum 30 minutes

If all the customers where aware that butchers were operating on their vehicles then you'd all be sitting on a beach getting a tan.

I can tell you now, that if i took my vehicle to a place where the keys were done cheaper than the dealer under the assumption that the method of programming the key was the same as the dealer and not being informed otherwise, you won't be sitting on a beach getting a tan, you'd be behind bars rotting in hell

[rrador]

If all the customers where aware that butchers were operating on their vehicles then you'd all be sitting on a beach getting a tan.

I can tell you now, that if i took my vehicle to a place where the keys were done cheaper than the dealer under the assumption that the method of programming the key was the same as the dealer and not being informed otherwise, you won't be sitting on a beach getting a tan, you'd be behind bars rotting in hell

Wtf are you going on about