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**hauwkee** · 24th July, 2013, 04:00 AM

engineer in east europe and africa and india get paid 500/month so a lot of company outsourse developpment
i m sure it s expensive and time consuming to make a product
so when they charge 8000 euro for vag key programmer by obd that a rip off
because in USA market too many locksmith charge too low ?
this is the problem with used car dealer they play with 2/3 locksmith trying to get the cheapest
price on guy in town charge $45 for metal key he will impression every lock 10 min i cannot beat him i m slower and don t like impression since i self teachin myself no one ever teach me anything
i can run vin# and charge the dealer $40 because some of them try to get cheaper but this way car dealer win locksmith loose i try to talk to them tell them we should align our price because $45 metal key no problem u come to me i with locks yes u want me to come to you no way
$45 it s price before 10 years what about inflation those locksmith stupid they kill my job
i about to move to smaller town with no dealer around so it might be better than where i m at

**digitaltech** · 24th July, 2013, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by impactops

Explain to me the point of having "Cardiag.ru" as your name when you are advertising the site in which you are selling things derived from forums like these?
You are advertising your website on a forum where information is shared for free and that information you can use to start selling on your website? Then why would they buy off you?

its like atomis charging $10 for program to convert etl 912 dumps to bin, when smok gives it for free... they just hoping someone will pay for it...

**impactops** · 24th July, 2013, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by digitaltech

its like atomis charging $10 for program to convert etl 912 dumps to bin, when smok gives it for free... they just hoping someone will pay for it...

Then it's a good thing that i'm not in charge, otherwise the forum's membership would be reduced by half with strict conditions to enter

**gwee** · 24th July, 2013, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by impactops

Then it's a good thing that i'm not in charge, otherwise the forum's membership would be reduced by half with strict conditions to enter

In case you are in charge, please remember that i am your friend and i am not a seller. Hehe

**impactops** · 24th July, 2013, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by gwee

In case you are in charge, please remember that i am your friend and i am not a seller. Hehe

That will never happen so you have nothing to fear, what will and is happening is the forum is being flooded with people who just want solutions so they can make money off it in one way or another.If continues down this trend then you will have forum no different than the others where members are just waiting for solutions that will never come

**Automat** · 24th July, 2013, 03:45 PM

USA Clearstar full of dickheads who restrict membership...............low and behold.................no one needs them anymore..........................there will always be another place to go.............This is the new age.

Originally Posted by impactops

Then it's a good thing that i'm not in charge, otherwise the forum's membership would be reduced by half with strict conditions to enter

**gwee** · 24th July, 2013, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by impactops

Then it's a good thing that i'm not in charge, otherwise the forum's membership would be reduced by half with strict conditions to enter

Our Immo and locksmith forum is the very best in the world.

Many non members and new members are getting valuable information from here, they can be our competitors or even car thief.

Maybe is time to put some restriction. Just my two cents.

**Fallen** · 24th July, 2013, 11:24 PM

American forums, pffft!

I got banned from one of the bug ones for giving away information that they later sold to their members as "training".

All they talk about is opening cars with long reach tools, awesome....

**hauwkee** · 25th July, 2013, 06:49 AM

i don t know any other forum like this one i m addicted since 2009
it s a real community here if you around for a bit power member will help you! give you advices
we have like 1000 s of years of experience combine
but if u have one thread need key code or can someone generate me Benz key you will not get help
but that why we are #1 so will always have leechers
USA autolocksmith forum it s only Advanced diagnostic coverage no clone talking

**impactops** · 25th July, 2013, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by hauwkee

but that why we are #1 so will always have leechers

Leechers can be eliminated by being strict, very strict, zero tolerance

**912secured** · 25th July, 2013, 10:31 PM

You still need a legit one for when they have soft releases no clone has. They had them on sale was going to buy another for other truck, missed out (they need to make that the regular price, will make it back on software). Use friends vvdi when needed like the format setup better. Kap has a good forum for legit owners. Already bought other devics for bmw and benz. On the legit ones they need to work on getting version 3 of brp. You can clone a brp (ixxat) v3 flash to a ixxat and it runs fine as a clone main change was the hwid(if megatech is paid up for 5 years the you get 5 years). Instead of ixxat format brp changed it to more numbers there system. Who ever made a keygen to it was good. your all over the place to get the soft you want then megatech. If they did not have any drivers from brp or ixxat. Think they could make a driver and sell it.

**Lupen 3** · 1st June, 2014, 08:17 PM

a very heated discussion I have seen, unfortunately, the truth, and that these times of crisis they have chosen not too right, but who does not want to see the crisis builds