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    Angry Alfa 159 - re-use key fob ?

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    Customer has only one working key to his Alfa 159 (year 2006)
    Inside PCF7941

    He has a second key from a scrapyard...
    Can I re-use with replace the PCF and with EFFI ?

    No one took the key programming.
    They certainly know something that I do not ...

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    Unfortunately you can not.You have 2 options.
    Order key from dealer.
    Or unlock that PCF7941 that is originally on board.
    Prepare key by Effi,and finish programming via OBD,else remote won't work if written directly to dump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simaservis1108 View Post
    Or unlock that PCF7941 that is originally on board.
    What tool can unlock this chip ?

    Did you program this keys with succes, remote works?

    regards

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    Default Alfa 159 used key - re-use - how ?

    Quote Originally Posted by simaservis1108 View Post
    Unfortunately you can not.You have 2 options.
    Order key from dealer.
    Or unlock that PCF7941 that is originally on board.
    Prepare key by Effi,and finish programming via OBD,else remote won't work if written directly to dump.
    Key from dealer... about 300 euro

    OK, but why need unlock the used PCF7941 ? How can I unlock it ?
    Replace PCF to a brand new one, program with Effi (menu 173.) ???
    Only transponder will works ???
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    Yes that is right.PCF7941 is programmed with specific eeprom data that regular transponder machines can't program
    That is why you need unlocked PCF7941,it will have the right eeprom data.
    Blank PCF7941 won't have that data,so it will only start the car.
    You can try companies that do the unlocking of car keys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szkeptmen View Post
    Hi,
    Customer has only one working key to his Alfa 159 (year 2006)
    Inside PCF7941

    He has a second key from a scrapyard...
    Can I re-use with replace the PCF and with EFFI ?

    No one took the key programming.
    They certainly know something that I do not ...

    szkeptmen
    Forget to unlock that pcf because key is from scrapyard and you dont have original BCM to take info for unlock....

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    You have a PM who can unlock it.

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    I know orange5 can unlock pcf7941

    But don't know if it's working with all brands cars or just with some.

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    no all brands

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    Quote Originally Posted by simaservis1108 View Post
    You have a PM who can unlock it.
    PM me too, please !!!
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    Unhappy Alfa 159 key fob


    I knew it already... they do not have solution Fiat, Alfa, Lancia keys... : (
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    TMPRO can do it for fiat 500. So maybe it's working for alfa 159.

    Ask bogi...

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    Fiat 500 = PCF7946,simple swap.
    Alfa Romeo 159,Brera and Fiat Croma = PCF7941,blank PCF7941 only starts the car,but no remote functions.

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    all work -remote and key use apropriate tool to prepare 7941

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    Hallo

    Which tool to prepare 7941?
    I have some 159 keys to use.
    Many thanks

 

 
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