Volvo - key by OBD

**Weasel3** · 1st June, 2015, 10:48 AM

I have been searching a little bit on the internet the other day. For Volvo by OBD. Did not find much though.

I understand some are using the original equipment.

Tango can do quite much together with orange.
And the Keyline Bianchi884 with Volvo pack can do V70 2008-2011.

Volvo is owned by the Chinese now, and the are selling quite much of them in China at the moment. Even if they kept their factories in Sweden. And started new ones in CN.

If some of the brilliant CN developers have some focus on this brand, I would think they will strike gold.

Hopefully if their come up with an OBD solution. I am thinking about V70 etc. From 2001 and forwards.

A brand new XC90 is released these days. The old one got released in 2003. So I guess the new one will be around for a while.

Could this be something for Samic and the team? Or even the Smelecom or Digimaster team.

Should we make a fundraiser?

Winner get the pricemoney.

**autofan1965** · 1st June, 2015, 05:47 PM

Volvo is not so popular like other brands and security have at little higher level as average its mean exist many other easier and better payable goals for developers.

**indienick** · 1st June, 2015, 06:02 PM

Unfortunately you will never see Volvo by OBD with an aftermarket tool. Maybe future Volvo cars but certainly nothing for the past.

**ray-ray** · 2nd June, 2015, 07:27 AM

AD tryied for years & gave up the fight...

**Weasel3** · 4th June, 2015, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by ray-ray

AD tryied for years & gave up the fight...

Never say Never.
The CN people is the smartest people I know about. The masses of people is gigantic. The competition starts when you are a child. And go on trough your hole life.
Development costs are also much lower than UK and AD. Samic just got Porsche coming up. Hopefully Volvo is in the same league of security.

**simaservis1108** · 2nd June, 2015, 09:45 AM

It is not possible via OBD,because there is no command via CAN-Bus to accept new keys.
New keys are coded when you reload whole CEM software which is done online.

**autofan1965** · 2nd June, 2015, 09:55 AM

Yes but it is made via obd. Me known method is possible but take too much time.

**lunchb0x** · 4th June, 2015, 01:03 AM

I thought that Volvo had a patent on a part relating to the programming of keys, which will stop aftermarket tools from doing it.
Didn't AD briefly have Volvo on their tester a long time ago?

**indienick** · 4th June, 2015, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by lunchb0x

I thought that Volvo had a patent on a part relating to the programming of keys, which will stop aftermarket tools from doing it.
Didn't AD briefly have Volvo on their tester a long time ago?

The Chinese do not care about that m8.....

As Sima mentioned there is no communication available to do them by OBD.

**paul_12345** · 4th June, 2015, 10:04 PM

just because there is no commands to add a key does not mean its impossible does it, if the dealer/online can program a key shows that it is possible via obd - just because it may be extremely difficult does not mean if can't be done just look at mercedes now.

**autofan1965** · 4th June, 2015, 10:17 PM

There is communication to them via obd2 and china people are not smartest, I haven't see any unique items made by them, just better or worser copies of automotive products. Make equipment for Volvo is not good goal for any company/developer for several reasons as:
-not so much Volvo cars like Mercedes
-higher level security as other brands where you can achieve same thing few times faster
-when they release any equipment then in one-two month other people get know-how and put it own devices
-when they charge much for device, then price for customer will be bigger as direct from Volvo dealer wich make no sense to introduce offer like that and when price will be low then will be not so many customer wich will be interested in equipment like it because Volvo is not VW.

**simaservis1108** · 4th June, 2015, 10:23 PM

There is no CANBus command to add key.Keys are inserted into the flash file that is loaded in CEM in the operation called CEM reload.

You may call it something like "key to dump".

Upon CEM reload on Push start button models you insert a key into the ignition slot and push the start button twice.
That way the key gets locked and programmed.
You repeat that step with another keys you have programmed.

After that locked keys can start the car.

**drakov** · 4th June, 2015, 10:33 PM

Maybe future Volvo cars but certainly nothing for the past.

In europe at least, you will not see anything done via obd on future cars and I will bet the same goes for any european car sold from next year onwards... Read codes, clear codes, view live data... anything else on new models I am 99% sure will not be possible via obd, time will tell:-)

**autofan1965** · 4th June, 2015, 10:38 PM

I will not argue with you. First that you don't know other way is no proof that this way don't exist. Second, when even its true that there is no command to add key/program key there exist other ways. BTW Have you disassembled whole flash to find this command

?

**paul_12345** · 4th June, 2015, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by autofan1965

I will not argue with you. First that you don't know other way is no proof that this way don't exist. Second, when even its true that there is no command to add key/program key there exist other ways. BTW Have you disassembled whole flash to find this command

?

exactly just look at renault >2010, ford new algo - only takes 1 exploit in any of the code

Just because there is no add key commands doesn't mean you can't write a routine to add the key and run it after gaining control via an exploit