Silca Futura token based

**p1et** · 21st October, 2015, 12:20 PM

What do you think guys? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iifgn9hrTPA

**paul_12345** · 21st October, 2015, 12:28 PM

so they are doing far worse than they expected and what are they going to do offer a cheaper machine but have tokens?

suppose its a cleaver move depending on the prices.

**rapidlocksmiths** · 21st October, 2015, 01:07 PM

i guess its a move to offer silca products to those that buy cheaper brands or copy machines , but tokens are tokens and can work out expensive , alot depends on price .

**mikehometune** · 22nd October, 2015, 05:49 PM

hi all ,anyone know prices yet.
hometune

**obdsystems** · 22nd October, 2015, 08:31 PM

anybody reading this on UK google: market is already flooded with auto locksmiths - tough making money!

**54321** · 23rd October, 2015, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by obdsystems

anybody reading this on UK google: market is already flooded with auto locksmiths - tough making money!

I had somebody ring me today, complaining about my 'expensive' quote and telling me what the job involved because they had read it on this forum

Its a shame because i think a lot of the top contributors to this forum will stop posting as much, probably valuable information will be shared via pm's or on alternative forums that are private.

**whiskeyman** · 23rd October, 2015, 07:52 PM

its already happening
few have left for this reason

no one listen

**sparkz02** · 24th October, 2015, 12:07 AM

I think is crazy there is no way you can have a token based key cutting machine, the process with tokens is suppose to be 1 successful job = 1 token, imagine your cutting a key but you have waffers missing, so you use insta and cutting tree? Going to be quite expensive or you cut a key but by mistake you done it on wrong remote and have to do another the possibilities are endless.
It's a case of a Bentley and Fiat do exactly the same job, both still sell quite well due to the fact one is a luxury, in a work environment I don't require luxury's I require money. It's always going to be cost against gain.

**paul_12345** · 24th October, 2015, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by sparkz02

I think is crazy there is no way you can have a token based key cutting machine, the process with tokens is suppose to be 1 successful job = 1 token, imagine your cutting a key but you have waffers missing, so you use insta and cutting tree? Going to be quite expensive or you cut a key but by mistake you done it on wrong remote and have to do another the possibilities are endless.
It's a case of a Bentley and Fiat do exactly the same job, both still sell quite well due to the fact one is a luxury, in a work environment I don't require luxury's I require money. It's always going to be cost against gain.

yes I can't see how it will work with prices;

if they sell the machine for a few grand they will have to charge big money per key, then they will just encourage people to buy a x6 etc and only use the silca when they have to, then they wont get a lot back in tokens.

if you only save a bit on the machine and cheap tokens just dont seem any point in it.

**Fallen** · 24th October, 2015, 01:08 AM

Why silca don't just make a machine like the a5 with a big arse motor and charge a reasonable price for it is beyond me, they would sell like hot cakes.

**HeXeN** · 23rd September, 2020, 09:52 AM

I have seen advertise to swap Condor or Miracle over to Futura Auto (+ pay money) but there is no info about any tokens?

**rapidlocksmiths** · 23rd September, 2020, 03:50 PM

all looking at token options now , even keyline have stopped free updates and now want a £150 token for 12 months updates , they are all feeling the pinch from china machines and inventing new ways to get more revenue in , very poor show from keyline especially as they sold the ninja laser as free updates for life then changed their minds .