VVDI vs VVDI2 vs SMOK for VAG

**amigokola** · 8th January, 2016, 09:16 PM

Hello at first. I am new at this forum. So Hi to all DK Members!!!!!
I have issue what to buy. I have SuperKey and Miraclone and it does the job but with new Audi and VW it doesn't. I know that the first choice is AVDI but it's to expensive for me. I was reading posts about VVDI and VVDI2 and at this moment I would buy VVDI because it is more stable but I'm afraid that the hardware in it is old and that Xhorse stop making upgrades. If someone have experience with SMOK could You tell me if it does the key for BCM2 ?? What would be Your first pick for VAG for now?? Best Regards.

**Siham** · 8th January, 2016, 09:46 PM

VVDI2 or Datasmart 3 .
Smok never tried.

**amigokola** · 8th January, 2016, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by amigokola

Hello at first. I am new at this forum. So Hi to all DK Members!!!!!
I have issue what to buy. I have SuperKey and Miracle and it does the job but with new Audi and VW it doesn't. I know that the first choice is AVDI but it's to expensive for me. I was reading posts about VVDI and VVDI2 and at this moment I would buy VVDI because it is more stable but I'm afraid that the hardware in it is old and that Xhorse stop making upgrades. If someone have experience with SMOK could You tell me if it does the key for BCM2 ?? What would be Your first pick for VAG for now?? Best Regards.

VVDI2 reads BCM2 by OBD without a problem ?? I have read post on DK that is not reliable tool.. That Xhorse put it in the market without testing it and that a lot of options doesn't work.

**paul_12345** · 8th January, 2016, 10:43 PM

There are lots of threads on this already its seems someone ask the same question each week.

Follow this logic the only people that can say which is best are the ones that own all of them... If they own all of them it means that none are brilliant.

It they dont own all of the tools they can't advise which to get anymore than you can really.

So having read the threads on each you just have to go with which ever you think.

**amigokola** · 8th January, 2016, 11:17 PM

Ok its logical but. There are people who have a lot of stuff and I know that none of it is failure free but I must choose something and I would like to know what is the best for VAG at the moment in keys and ECU swap CS, PIN. Specially AUDI BCM2 and Q7, Touareg. A6,A4,A5,Q3......

**rob h** · 9th January, 2016, 12:04 AM

I own a Original avdi and tango.
a copy datasmart3+ and vvdi2.

The vvdi2 is realy good, SV86-B includes vag and bcm2.
The tagkeytool that is included is not so bad, but not as good as a Original TANGO.
If you want to do ecu, buy a galletto clone, or ktag. And get a upa or xprog.

**amigokola** · 9th January, 2016, 05:40 PM

Someone wrote here that possiblity to f.....ck car up is higher with avdi than vvdi. Is this true ?

**rob h** · 9th January, 2016, 05:48 PM

Avdi does not kill cars, people with avdi kill cars!

Let get serious: Avdi is one off the best tools for vag, and vvdi is the best avdi clone.
So that statement does not make any sense.

Originally Posted by amigokola

Someone wrote here that possiblity to f.....ck car up is higher with avdi than vvdi. Is this true ?

**yugo45** · 10th January, 2016, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by amigokola

If someone have experience with SMOK could You tell me if it does the key for BCM2 ??

SMOK X-Dash can not do BCM-2 keys.
Only Id-48 keys is possible, means keys with blade like Golf5 or 6 and etc.

Also you have to buy Key maker + X-dash.

**amigokola** · 10th January, 2016, 01:02 PM

Ok. Thank's m8's for help but can U tell me what would U buy for this moment for BCM2,A6,Touareg and VW? VVDI2 or older VVDI with 5th immo ?? It makes me curious why people who have ori AVDI have also VVDI...

**amigokola** · 10th January, 2016, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by rob h

I own a Original avdi and tango.
a copy datasmart3+ and vvdi2.

The vvdi2 is realy good, SV86-B includes vag and bcm2.
The tagkeytool that is included is not so bad, but not as good as a Original TANGO.
If you want to do ecu, buy a galletto clone, or ktag. And get a upa or xprog.

I'll get UPA next week. I have Miraclone but I see that Tango is better for VAG. I am turning towards AVDI now but one guy from locksmith industry said to me that is no need for AVDI. That VVDI will do the job and in some cases its better...

**rob h** · 10th January, 2016, 04:48 PM

You dont need tango for vag, Maybe for Crafters keys by dump!
The med17 and edc17 dumpeditor from vvdi works only if you also own a Condor key cutter.
And the tango has a good edc med17 editor free build in.

Originally Posted by amigokola

I'll get UPA next week. I have Miraclone but I see that Tango is better for VAG. I am turning towards AVDI now but one guy from locksmith industry said to me that is no need for AVDI. That VVDI will do the job and in some cases its better...

**yugo45** · 10th January, 2016, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by rob h

You dont need tango for vag, Maybe for Crafters keys by dump!
The med17 and edc17 dumpeditor from vvdi works only if you also own a Condor key cutter.
And the tango has a good edc med17 editor free build in.

Where do you see EDC17/MED 17 editor in VVDI?
Only can read CS , Mac and pin form Flash+Eeprom.

**rob h** · 10th January, 2016, 07:05 PM

Yes that is right.VVDI For immo on and off and showing CS , Mac and pin form Flash+Eeprom. But only with condor keycutter.
The tango has a real dumpmaker tool.Tango dumpmaker Med17 Edc17.jpg

Originally Posted by yugo45

Where do you see EDC17/MED 17 editor in VVDI?
Only can read CS , Mac and pin form Flash+Eeprom.

**Siham** · 10th January, 2016, 07:26 PM

amigokola it's time to start pushing thanks button ,members have helped you .
When someone helped ,saying thank is the minimum.
Also you have to make your own experience's with tools , yes there is bad or killer tools for some jobs but there is much more BAD USERS ,also if you want to work with any tool doesn't mater where is from you have to make some research and first tool for any jobs is BRAIN.exe !!!!!