VVDI vs VVDI2 vs SMOK for VAG

**amigokola** · 10th January, 2016, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Siham

amigokola it's time to start pushing thanks button ,members have helped you .
When someone helped ,saying thank is the minimum.
Also you have to make your own experience's with tools , yes there is bad or killer tools for some jobs but there is much more BAD USERS ,also if you want to work with any tool doesn't mater where is from you have to make some research and first tool for any jobs is BRAIN.exe !!!!!

Sory Siham I forgot to thanks. Sory to everyone.
Yes I know that every job needs brain but when I read that with AVDI with Touareg when adding second key U can erase all keys and car wont start... I heard that it is in engine with two ECU. Is this true? I would be very angry if do this with tool for this much $.

**amigokola** · 10th January, 2016, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by rob h

I own a Original avdi and tango.
a copy datasmart3+ and vvdi2.

The vvdi2 is realy good, SV86-B includes vag and bcm2.
The tagkeytool that is included is not so bad, but not as good as a Original TANGO.
If you want to do ecu, buy a galletto clone, or ktag. And get a upa or xprog.

Rob h why did U buy VVDI2 when U had AVDI ??

**paul_12345** · 10th January, 2016, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by amigokola

Rob h why did U buy VVDI2 when U had AVDI ??

A lot of people brought VVDI2 when they had AVDI compared with AVDI VVDI is pocket change.

You will learn every tool will let you down now and again so you always need backups.

**amigokola** · 10th January, 2016, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by paul_12345

A lot of people brought VVDI2 when they had AVDI compared with AVDI VVDI is pocket change.

You will learn every tool will let you down now and again so you always need backups.

You're saying that VVDI2 for backup AVDI when it fails

??

**paul_12345** · 10th January, 2016, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by amigokola

You're saying that VVDI2 for backup AVDI when it fails

??

I'm saying its a backup to try *if* AVDI fails, doesn't say AVDI is bad or that VVDI would work if AVDI failed, its simply cheap enough to have as a backup or if they happen to release something before AVDI.

**rob h** · 10th January, 2016, 11:24 PM

My avdi broke last year. And having it repaired would mean that i have to pay AMS.
And that is simply wrong! Also,
My avdi vag package did not include bcm2.
Now i have vvdi2 with bcm2, for only 1500.
And it can do Passat comfort module calculation without ECU dump, so vvdi2 is even a littlebit better then avdi.

**amigokola** · 11th January, 2016, 01:54 PM

Thank's Rob h. It's answer I was waiting for.
AVDI can't do key in Passat B6 from comfort module dump?? I can do this with Miraclone and now with VVDI2 when it arrives....

**haroutioun** · 11th January, 2016, 05:34 PM

Hello.
about AVDI for me is the best tool cause till know nothing damaged in the car when i use it on for any function.but there is a lot of function no present in it same as VVDI.
1) for example can't adapt keylessgo keys for (golf 6) + can't adapt used steering lock for (golf 6) + can't calculate all kind comfort dump the 7th CS without engine ecu dump, + can't unlock 46 + 48 transponders by dump,but by vvdi can do this all, but vvdi2 is more batter good then vvdi1 cause vvdi don't work (k-line) but vvdi2 can work (k-line) but vvdi2 have some functions can't work but avdi can do it,for 1 example can't calculate odometer for touareg but avdi can do it, so there is another jobs can't do vvdi2 but avdi can.
2) so here there is no 1 tool can done your job by it you must to have many tools by obd2 + programmers for dump.
PS:BY avdi can do key by comfort dump for b6 passat, but it is weak in learning system,you can prepare by avdi & learn by VCDS.

**rob h** · 11th January, 2016, 06:17 PM

Avdi requires comfort and ecu dump to calculated.
Vddi only requires comfort dump.

Originally Posted by amigokola

Thank's Rob h. It's answer I was waiting for.
AVDI can't do key in Passat B6 from comfort module dump?? I can do this with Miraclone and now with VVDI2 when it arrives....

**whiskeyman** · 11th January, 2016, 06:24 PM

Think Avdi will start cloning the vvdi
and charge you for the privilege

**haroutioun** · 11th January, 2016, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by whiskeyman

Think Avdi will start cloning the vvdi
and charge you for the privilege

Hello.
no bro Avdi always have his own self options.he no need clone from any tools, but if vvdi has more some functions,so this not mean Avdi die, me & all avdi owners hope & must wait for avdi prepare new functions, so Avdi always he is the best now and after.

**totalkey** · 11th January, 2016, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by haroutioun

Hello.
about AVDI for me is the best tool cause till know nothing damaged in the car when i use it on for any function.but there is a lot of function no present in it same as VVDI.
1) for example can't adapt keylessgo keys for (golf 6) + can't adapt used steering lock for (golf 6) + can't calculate all kind comfort dump the 7th CS without engine ecu dump, + can't unlock 46 + 48 transponders by dump,but by vvdi can do this all, but vvdi2 is more batter good then vvdi1 cause vvdi don't work (k-line) but vvdi2 can work (k-line) but vvdi2 have some functions can't work but avdi can do it,for 1 example can't calculate odometer for touareg but avdi can do it, so there is another jobs can't do vvdi2 but avdi can.
2) so here there is no 1 tool can done your job by it you must to have many tools by obd2 + programmers for dump.
PS:BY avdi can do key by comfort dump for b6 passat, but it is weak in learning system,you can prepare by avdi & learn by VCDS.

This from abritus news
Added support for Megamos 48 keyless-go keys ( e.g. VW Scirroco, Jetta, Golf 6, Tuguan, Touaran 20010+ and others). Free for all owners of AN050

Also

Passat B6/CC/B7 decoding of PIN/CS from comfort module dump without using CS from ECU (for some comfort module versions only) ? Get all 7 bytes of CS and PIN from the comfort module dump without having the PIN/CS from ECU. Free for all owners of AN050

So look like avdi can do keyless and using only.comfort dump for retrieve pin and cs and 7 byte

**rob h** · 12th January, 2016, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by totalkey

This from abritus news
Added support for Megamos 48 keyless-go keys ( e.g. VW Scirroco, Jetta, Golf 6, Tuguan, Touaran 20010+ and others). Free for all owners of AN050

Also

Passat B6/CC/B7 decoding of PIN/CS from comfort module dump without using CS from ECU (for some comfort module versions only) – Get all 7 bytes of CS and PIN from the comfort module dump without having the PIN/CS from ECU. Free for all owners of AN050

So look like avdi can do keyless and using only.comfort dump for retrieve pin and cs and 7 byte

Not my avdi.
I did not aprieciate the AMS.
So i kept vag23.0 for the last 2 years.
So good to hear that i did not really miss much!

**haroutioun** · 12th January, 2016, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by totalkey

This from abritus news
Added support for Megamos 48 keyless-go keys ( e.g. VW Scirroco, Jetta, Golf 6, Tuguan, Touaran 20010+ and others). Free for all owners of AN050

Also

Passat B6/CC/B7 decoding of PIN/CS from comfort module dump without using CS from ECU (for some comfort module versions only) – Get all 7 bytes of CS and PIN from the comfort module dump without having the PIN/CS from ECU. Free for all owners of AN050

So look like avdi can do keyless and using only.comfort dump for retrieve pin and cs and 7 byte

Hello.
i have all functions in my avdi, but when i write avdi can't do keyless go for golf 6 this mean i tested befor i write here,and about passat not from all dumps can calculate the CS. Some dumps can & some not. 2 years & till now i am ask for this point for vag support, but till now no solution 100%.

**amigokola** · 12th January, 2016, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by haroutioun

Hello.
i have all functions in my avdi, but when i write avdi can't do keyless go for golf 6 this mean i tested befor i write here,and about passat not from all dumps can calculate the CS. Some dumps can & some not. 2 years & till now i am ask for this point for vag support, but till now no solution 100%.

Sorry to hear that the Company which gets ridiculous amount of money from each device has the customer right up in their ass !!!!!!!!