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    Quote Originally Posted by carradio2001 View Post
    I have clone V5.0 X-prog-m programmer.
    I try to read ST10F269. Every time stops at 16% or 19%.
    Any tips ?

    Thanks in advance.

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    I have the same problem
    But if you live it about 3hours maybe you can read it again
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    Quote Originally Posted by makura View Post
    Hi
    It goes like this !!! 151=150 which means it's 15 and the 1 representing the number of zero's after the 15,so 152=1500 to get the proper value you have to say 1500 divided by 1000 and the 1000 meaning KILO(1000) so this resistor would be 1,5kilo ohms.
    154=150000 so this would be 150kilo ohms(150k) etc etc
    Hope i explained it as simple as possible since i am not a lecturer,and if not understood fire away.
    Thanks! I understand what you are saying. Bottom line is I need 1500 and that would be 152! 154 would be way too much voltage drop then, and 151 not enough.

    I want to do like one of the other users above did and make the blue pcb xprogm stronger. We don't have an electronics store close by so i was trying to go through old SRS control units and ECUs to find the parts I need with no luck ...

    And then comes the hard part, learning how to actually connect to the chips . I'm pretty smart and technical, but I have 0 experience reading any chips other than removing a simple 8-pin soic and reading it out of circuit. Unfortunately, there isn't much info (or people aren't willing to give info) on how to actually read the chips in circuit. I'm getting a little worried because I see some people who claim they never do in-circuit programming because of the dangers. And on top of that I have a blue PCB xprogm so there are so many variables for me to overcome. If I can't read a chip, it could be the programmer or me not knowing what I am doing, or me having burned something in circuit I guess it wouldn't be fun if it were easy right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tor2lehel View Post
    Anybody help me!! Xprog-m support the CR16MFR PLCC 44 ?????

    Big NO!

    it cant read cr16mfr !

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsc View Post
    I have the same problem
    But if you live it about 3hours maybe you can read it again
    3 hours ? the x-prog or the module with st10f269 ? after these 3 hours will be read it fully ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carradio2001 View Post
    3 hours ? the x-prog or the module with st10f269 ? after these 3 hours will be read it fully ?

    Carradio2001.
    the module mate
    i have original xprog-m and for me works every time
    I think that the proccesor lock for some reason some sectors thats why we cant read or write
    good luck
    Every time you must erase it first the writting
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawdog1 View Post
    Thanks! I understand what you are saying. Bottom line is I need 1500 and that would be 152! 154 would be way too much voltage drop then, and 151 not enough.

    I want to do like one of the other users above did and make the blue pcb xprogm stronger. We don't have an electronics store close by so i was trying to go through old SRS control units and ECUs to find the parts I need with no luck ...

    And then comes the hard part, learning how to actually connect to the chips . I'm pretty smart and technical, but I have 0 experience reading any chips other than removing a simple 8-pin soic and reading it out of circuit. Unfortunately, there isn't much info (or people aren't willing to give info) on how to actually read the chips in circuit. I'm getting a little worried because I see some people who claim they never do in-circuit programming because of the dangers. And on top of that I have a blue PCB xprogm so there are so many variables for me to overcome. If I can't read a chip, it could be the programmer or me not knowing what I am doing, or me having burned something in circuit I guess it wouldn't be fun if it were easy right?
    The resistor you need should be 153 that gives you 15k plus a 102 which is 1killo ohm connect them in series(inline)then combined they will give you 16k

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    Quote Originally Posted by makura View Post
    The resistor you need should be 153 that gives you 15k plus a 102 which is 1killo ohm connect them in series(inline)then combined they will give you 16k
    Ok now I am confused. I'm not confused with the math, but with the mod itself. The original resistor that the blue pcb has is 182. So this is 1.8K or 1800 ohms. User elchip in post #699 on page 47 says to use 152 +100 in series to make 1600 ohms. But in his picture attached to his post, he instructs only to change the 182 to 152, so that makes it 1500 ohms, not 1600. But you are saying to do 153, which is 15,000 ohms plus 102, which is 1000 ohms, for a total of 16K? Wouldn't that lower the voltage too much? Also, is there even any room to put two resistors in series?

    In Zmann's post, #707 page 48, he also uses 152 in place of the 182 (so 1.5K). I don't see any other resistors added? Also, I am trying to figure out what other mods he made. I see he changed the capacitors, but not sure if his are stronger than the ones that came with mine. I have some of the small yellow ones that I think are weak, but the ones near the 152 resistor are silver barrel style caps.

    Also, I am trying to figure out which style LM317 he used. I googled it and see there are many different styles, with some being adjustable (not sure what that means). Any idea which lm317 I should buy? There are LM317LDR2, LM317LBDR2G, LM317LBDG, LM317LDR2G and so on ...

    Thanks again for your replies
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    Also I measured my vpp is 9v

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    Quote Originally Posted by makura View Post
    Hi
    the ecu is from a peugeot 306 magnet marell IAW 08P.1C,when i try to read with either of the selection you have listed above i get device silent,by the way my xprog has a green board.
    Thanks again for your reply.
    BTW, if you didn't figure it out already, device is silent probably means you don't have the com port set up properly, either the device driver itself, or the setting in the xprogm software. Make sure the USB drivers are installed correctly, make sure you see the USB COM driver show up in your device manager, and then go to Environment settings (or something like that, trying to remember from memory) in the Xprog software and select the right com port.

    Device is silent for me meant the software was not communicating with the programmer, not that it wasn't reading the chip.

    I originally got the same error as you. I noticed that the xprogm software resets this setting, and that also the device doesn't sometimes show properly. I resolved this by disconnecting and reconnecting the Xprog USB, and also reselecting the proper COM port device in the Xprog software.

    After I got that setup, I tried reading an 8pin 93xx46 chip in circuit. At first I got pin errors. I played with the connections by moving them a little, and then it read fine! Now to learn how to do MCUs in-circuit .... Does anyone know if they HAVE to be done in circuit, or should I always remove them? I seem to remember someone saying that the MCUs with encryption have to be done in-circuit? Otherwise you can't access the memory? Is this true? I think I prefer to remove the chips when possible because I realized today how hard using test clips are to get a good connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawdog1 View Post
    Ok now I am confused. I'm not confused with the math, but with the mod itself. The original resistor that the blue pcb has is 182. So this is 1.8K or 1800 ohms. User elchip in post #699 on page 47 says to use 152 +100 in series to make 1600 ohms. But in his picture attached to his post, he instructs only to change the 182 to 152, so that makes it 1500 ohms, not 1600. But you are saying to do 153, which is 15,000 ohms plus 102, which is 1000 ohms, for a total of 16K? Wouldn't that lower the voltage too much? Also, is there even any room to put two resistors in series?

    In Zmann's post, #707 page 48, he also uses 152 in place of the 182 (so 1.5K). I don't see any other resistors added? Also, I am trying to figure out what other mods he made. I see he changed the capacitors, but not sure if his are stronger than the ones that came with mine. I have some of the small yellow ones that I think are weak, but the ones near the 152 resistor are silver barrel style caps.

    Also, I am trying to figure out which style LM317 he used. I googled it and see there are many different styles, with some being adjustable (not sure what that means). Any idea which lm317 I should buy? There are LM317LDR2, LM317LBDR2G, LM317LBDG, LM317LDR2G and so on ...

    Thanks again for your replies
    All of LM317's are the type of an adjustable voltage regulator IC. I made in a post possibily in this threat saying that 'THE TWO LM317 TO-92 PACKAGE USED IN THE BLUE XPROG-M CANNOT BE REPLACED WITH LM317 SOIC8 PACKAGE' like used in the green PCB unless the PCB lines are modified like mine, wrong lining in the blue PCB for SOIC8 package!

    Resistor of 1.8 Kohm (between 1.5 and 1.8 K) is one of the voltage adjusting elements, typically should be a potentiometer (adjustable resistor) but here after well calculated they used fixed resistor of 1.8 Kohm. If only one SMD resistor of 1.6 Kohm (type 0805) is prefered as a replacement, I found that it's also available but may need slight effort to find them.

    The blue Xprog in the photo is of the later built which they already replaced the small yellow and under rated tantalum capacitors with electrolytic capacitors of 35V rating (silver barrel).
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    sorry mate my mistake,your resitor should be 1.5k plus 100ohm resitor in series to giv you 1.6kohm,

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    Have you tried to use COM port cable? I had similar problem, so I been playing with USB parameters (latency ...). After that I successfully read it but not every times.
    At the end I connect my X-prog over Com cable and additional power supply and it works perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tihiuvek View Post
    Have you tried to use COM port cable? I had similar problem, so I been playing with USB parameters (latency ...). After that I successfully read it but not every times.
    At the end I connect my X-prog over Com cable and additional power supply and it works perfectly.
    Hey you right that is how got to read hc11a1 micro,i think there is somthing wrong with the usb drivers,if using com port it reads and writes with out any problems

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    I've read some posts on this thread!! but i couldn't understand which is a good china shop to get the xprog!!
    Sooo what shop should i pick?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by p0z3r View Post
    I've read some posts on this thread!! but i couldn't understand which is a good china shop to get the xprog!!
    Sooo what shop should i pick?

    thanks
    I got mine from autotoolscan.com and the sales person is May

 

 

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