Bmw 1 series all keys lost

**comizelu** · 27th July, 2017, 07:33 PM

Hi DK
Can someone please help me..
I have a customer with a bmw 116 petrol 01.2008 with all keys lost.I've got the bmw multitool. Can I program a key via obd or cas on bench (without soldering) without the known isn ?
Thank you

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**comizelu** · 27th July, 2017, 08:58 PM

The customer is away that's why I'm asking..
It's an eu car..

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**Gavra** · 27th July, 2017, 09:04 PM

All can be done over OBD with good tools....

**comizelu** · 27th July, 2017, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Gavra

All can be done over OBD with good tools....

For bmw I've got only the multi tool and fvdi but it's a clone and don't trust it..

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**Gavra** · 27th July, 2017, 10:15 PM

make back-up and pray.......

**purdy** · 28th July, 2017, 07:24 AM

Price the key from BMW. No programming required. Sometimes less Hassle than buggering up the cas.

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**Levanime** · 28th July, 2017, 07:37 PM

no u will not be able to do it without ISN
i.e. ull code new key, but it will wipe ISN and car will not start

**comizelu** · 28th July, 2017, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Levanime

no u will not be able to do it without ISN
i.e. ull code new key, but it will wipe ISN and car will not start

This means that I'll have to read the ecu on bench as well..

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**Levanime** · 29th July, 2017, 08:22 AM

what dme is there?
if its tricore bench reading will not help

**comizelu** · 29th July, 2017, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Levanime

what dme is there?
if its tricore bench reading will not help

Tried to program a new key but multi tool failed.I'll probably change ecu kit and take the old one home for reading on bench.
Don't know why multi tool failed..someone else had tried to program a key before me.
Car was sitting there for a month.

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**jacostanzo** · 29th July, 2017, 11:46 AM

from 2008 maybe CAS3+, if you don't have AVDI, take out CAS and read with a good programmer, try to add key with any keymaker, like Tango. If CAS is encrypted will ask you for ECU dump or working key, if not encypted, you only need to write new dump in CAS and is ready for start the car

**bearheroes** · 29th July, 2017, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Levanime

what dme is there?
if its tricore bench reading will not help

Why not?

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**drugowaz** · 30th July, 2017, 06:40 AM

eeprom is virtual in tricore.
without isn imposible to make key.
i had e92 bmw 2007. only with autohex 2 extracted isn on bench.

**comizelu** · 30th July, 2017, 09:28 AM

I don't have autohex.
I have multi tool,tango basic,vvdi prog xprog upa ktag galletto
If I read the ecu on bench with vvdi prog and I post it here could someone give me the isn ?
Thank you all

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**comizelu** · 30th July, 2017, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by jacostanzo

from 2008 maybe CAS3+, if you don't have AVDI, take out CAS and read with a good programmer, try to add key with any keymaker, like Tango. If CAS is encrypted will ask you for ECU dump or working key, if not encypted, you only need to write new dump in CAS and is ready for start the car

Does tango basic have the option for bmw ?
I tried to buy the option for bmw and could not find it.
Thank you

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