DM500 test image for using official n3 card

**red devil** · 16th October, 2009, 04:36 PM

below is a link for a DM500 image that is set up to read your LEGAL subbed nagra 3 card
***not for cardshare but just to have a better box to use***
as peeps are using their official sly cards in dreamboxes this is an option
for all testers to have a go at using their n3 card and report back

This image is ready for nagra 3 cards but is optimized for Tv Cabo
may need to be tweaked for other providers but a step in the right direction

Code:

http://www.dreamboxtool.com/Other-Images/Nagra3--Zon--Cards-Ready-EagleImageV5-for-Dm500-on-2009-9-9.html

**phester** · 19th October, 2009, 09:13 AM

thanks will try it later

**Bonesy** · 19th October, 2009, 09:47 AM

interesting... to cleaify and I know the "cardsharing" isnt allow to be discussed on the forum, so Im trying to be careful on how I ask this.

But can this image work with cable with the peers setup as sat cardsharing does? If so, wont this sort the Irish problems with n3?

**red devil** · 19th October, 2009, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bonesy

interesting... to cleaify and I know the "cardsharing" isnt allow to be discussed on the forum, so Im trying to be careful on how I ask this.

ill be careful how i answer

Originally Posted by Bonesy

But can this image work with cable with the peers setup as sat cardsharing does? If so, wont this sort the Irish problems with n3?

well in theory any image setup to read a card either sly or cable
can be configured to cardshare but thats not what i would be after
sat is a much better option for that but maybe at some point we can
have a ready to go image to use our official n3 cards in our dreams
but it would be down to each person to have their own bk & rsa key

**phester** · 20th October, 2009, 09:12 AM

The way Ch*rus did the upgrade I am not sure the box key is used.

I put the card from ch*rus into the old sagem box and ran the software update. after a few hours the streams cleared.

Tonight i willput the same card into a second redundant box in the house and wait for it to clear. If it clears then (I think) the box key is not used. Box keys (I think) are not sent over a stream and you must ring them to let them know when it has worked so no talk back too. ( again me thinks)

**elhefe** · 21st October, 2009, 01:15 AM

@phester what happened when u put the 2nd card in the same sagem box?? my understanding is the boxkey comes from the sagem but gets written to the card. but im not sure if an rsa key is needed and how to get it

**phester** · 22nd October, 2009, 08:15 PM

the sagem came on as normal. required software update. then displayed the "this card is not activated" same as in all the boxes. I was not allowed to leave in over night to see if it would work. Parents giving out.

I might try again over the weekend to see if it will activate

Also it seems that some more channels from the standard sub have now started dissapearing. BBC now 1802 only. They rang the house and asked if we were using the new card but my Parents would not lie and said I dont know instead of " what new card". Looks like no free TV for Christmas.

Does anyone have the new card working with a DM500. Do we need to crack the old card to get a box id or how do I go about it.

**red devil** · 23rd October, 2009, 12:55 AM

@phester each legit box has a 16 digit boxkey and same boxkey is on the card for that box....the boxkey on any box cant be changed and only a card with the correct boxkey and ird no. will work on it
this is 100% accurate

there is no public way to get the box key and rsa key from a n3 card
and yes you need both

**phester** · 23rd October, 2009, 02:57 PM

well the box key could be retrieved from the N1 cards. If that is easier than trying to get it from the box.

NO idea how difficult this is
This would be enough to at least use the legit card in a Dbox.

From the sat scene ppl are sharing rom142. Have not found out how yet but I guess it must be a card glitch.

Dont want to cross any red lines or talk specifics. Just trying to get a direction on which way to go

**red devil** · 23rd October, 2009, 03:40 PM

its easy to get the bk from a n1 card....but you need the rsa key as well to use a n2 or n3 card....the n1 card does not have a rsa key so its of no use to you
the only option you have is to get it from the box

google may help you

**phester** · 25th October, 2009, 06:30 PM

I am at a loss on how to get into the engineering menu on a sagem 1CD60-31. Google is not helping

from the ordinary menu I can get smartcard no and access control no 12 digits. But I assume it can be that

The serial no of the box is also readable "Serial ID" matches the sticker. I can use a hex converter... I read somewhere drop teh 53xxxxxxxx where the xxx are the box key. I still am unsure about the RSA key.

Also did anyone look at the new cards before they were activated. As the cards were not working for several hours after they were inserted into a box. I assume that the cards come blank and get locked down after they update from the stream.

**Donnie Darko** · 25th October, 2009, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by phester

I am at a loss on how to get into the engineering menu on a sagem 1CD60-31. Google is not helping

from the ordinary menu I can get smartcard no and access control no 12 digits. But I assume it can be that

The serial no of the box is also readable "Serial ID" matches the sticker. I can use a hex converter... I read somewhere drop teh 53xxxxxxxx where the xxx are the box key. I still am unsure about the RSA key.

Also did anyone look at the new cards before they were activated. As the cards were not working for several hours after they were inserted into a box. I assume that the cards come blank and get locked down after they update from the stream.

You aint gonna get the bk from the serial id,they dont make it that easy.

**phester** · 25th October, 2009, 07:38 PM

well i guessed. But ppl keep referring to an engineering menu. and Im done. Can I rule out this method for the sagem icd60 sagem box.

If it is a firmware dump or comms link ill look into it more

**elhefe** · 29th October, 2009, 10:10 PM

hi all
just to confim placing a legit cpu n3 card into the common interface and activating the common interface softcam will not clear any channels using the image at the top of the thread as given. Can someone please provide a simple tut guide us through this. i have an n1 card to get box key from but due to the uk postal strike my unlooper is stuck somewhere in the uk for the last 2 weeks'

if i could get the info needed how does this work with the legit card???

thanks for any help in advance

elhefe

@ red devil

if i google rsa key in google would i be looking at a polish website ?? purely as a hint then i will explore this on my own or is this to do with jtag ?

i hope i wont cause any hassle by asking those questions

**thospot** · 28th November, 2009, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by red devil

its easy to get the bk from a n1 card....but you need the rsa key as well to use a n2 or n3 card....the n1 card does not have a rsa key so its of no use to you
the only option you have is to get it from the box

google may help you

can you tell us whats the address or the RSA key m8.
i have dumped the flash and cant find the RSA