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**PocketHero** · 20th January, 2019, 12:43 PM

O5 is cheap in original too, and you can use the oem stuff in it too. It is no difference between original or oem connectors.

**gadliauskas** · 22nd January, 2019, 08:30 AM

helo
vvdi prog where to buy better on eBay or official website http://www.vvdishop.com/ and what's the difference?
how much have I watched the same prices
thanks

**PocketHero** · 22nd January, 2019, 08:37 PM

I think it is better When you get your own Dealer (wholesale company), and you get all possible equipment from them. Maybe it is a bit expensiver Than buying from other sources, but you have a big advantage When you have guaratee issues. Usually I do it on this Way, but I don't care how they solve my problem, my task ends with bringing the toy back to them. If the tool is too cheap, or your Dealer don't sell it, then you can get it from the manufacturer, if possible pay it with paypal. PP protects your money, if you have any kind of trouble (not getting anything or false ware, or God knows), then they are ready tó pay your money back.
If you want to buy something from Aliexpress, you can do it (pay with PP!), Ae cares for your money, you won't be f***ed by the sellers.

I hope I could help

**joker01** · 27th January, 2019, 10:10 PM

excellent discussion guys !!!
does anyone have experience with obdstar key master dp plus???
I'm thinking of buying it mainly for working with car keys / remote controls

**PocketHero** · 27th January, 2019, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by joker01

does anyone have experience with obdstar key master dp plus???

All bad experiences are collected here

I tried it many times without success. I would better prefer Lonsdor, but your decision.

**joker01** · 27th January, 2019, 10:58 PM

thanks friend ... I read only 10 pages of that post and I have already changed my mind .... ahhahah
I'm new in the car keys world and I'm getting informed well before spending money ....

**joker01** · 28th January, 2019, 01:16 PM

to work on fiat, vag and bmw keys which tool do you recommend ????
Europe car.....

**PocketHero** · 28th January, 2019, 04:47 PM

AVDI. Knows more Than the cheap ones, but not almighty.

**joker01** · 29th January, 2019, 07:16 PM

spoken today with avdi ... basic package 880 euro only diagnosis no keys .....
protocols for separate brands
tonight I read a little about lonsdor ......

**PocketHero** · 29th January, 2019, 07:42 PM

Quality must be paid mate, but you can get AVDI leased from Wendt...

**baddaren** · 1st February, 2019, 01:27 PM

Locksmith Jakob Here. I have used MVP PRO and Smartpro, expensive. I have bougt the Orange5 clone, semes to work. And bought Tango Clone, does not work,can not generate transponders. Not even clone id33 skoda key with fixed code, very bad tool. What are you using for reading volvo ECU+SEM dump. Then I can program it with Orginal Tango. What are you using for OBD Programming for volvo, I am looking at albrites and TDB1000, also little expensive. Thank you for great review about tools, it is so helpfull. The chinese people you can not trust. Greatfull for all the help.

**baddaren** · 1st February, 2019, 10:39 PM

Hello guys. I was thinking of buying Londsdor K518ISE, but they are now strarting to charge 600usd a year for updates! Is Londsdor worth it??

**Ocin** · 5th February, 2019, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by joker01

spoken today with avdi ... basic package 880 euro only diagnosis no keys .....
protocols for separate brands
tonight I read a little about lonsdor ......

Hello mate, great post here !
Can you tell me witch tool do you advice to prog/clone key in BMW with cas3 3+ (e90 e60) ? thank you