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    its common knowledge that nissan have various bad bcm modules affecting qashqai j11 , xtrail t32 and rogue models using the prox key system , if you get one of these affected units then no tool can code new keys to it and will kill car , thus why so many avoid the qashqai j11 , xtrail t32 and rogue models with prox system , advanced diagnostics warn of 2 bad bcm serials not to attempt , truecode warns of 4 bad ones to avoid , even tdb warns of 2 on their wiki info, theres a thread on this forum on another one to avoid . theres also a few that some have succeeded and some have killed car , so these can be a lottery at best of times.
    if an affected bcm then not even the dealer can code keys to car with dealer tool without killing it . this has been common knowledge for sometime now , with many threads over past few years on the matter on many forums and groups including this forum , with prox systems on these models its a lottery , you get lucky or you dont , plenty avoid them .

    nissan are well aware of the issue as an internal bulletin was sent to all dealers warning them , but despite this they still charge 2k plus if a locksmith kills one , despite it being an issue in their bcm .

    its easy to blame a tool , not so easy to blame ones self if the right checks were not made prior to attempting key programming . ad kit and truecode read the bcm serial prior to programming and warn you to walk away if one of the bad serials and have you click to confirm that you understand that if you proceed you do so at your own risk and cost if it goes wrong .

    did you check bcm serial before proceeding to be certain it wasnt an affected unit as if it was an affected bcm then the fault is purely yours for not checking and of course nissans bad bcm units , and not your tools fault , its become far to easy to blame your tools , of course we dont yet know all the bad bcm units , 1 member here had one that was not listed that killed car , so we dont know all the bad ones yet and some are good sometimes and bad other times , thus why many avoid these .

    those that like a gamble take a chance on them , and charge well , some get lucky and get paid , others get unlucky and must pay the stealer , i guess it comes down to do you do enough of these to make the ones you kill and the cost to fix worthwhile , if you do great , if not then leave them alone , we all like to blame someone but if an affected unit then blame yourself for not researching and checking or blame nissan and their known bad bcm units , but dont blame your tools because their an easy target as you would suffer same fate with dealer tool if an affected unit. but in some cases its just bad luck as a bcm serial that isnt known to be bad yet but again not the tools fault.

    warn your customer of the issues , advise dealer , if they want you to proceed then get something in writting that you have made them aware of the risks and issues and they want you to try and they take full responsibility if shit hits fan , its not cast iron in court but may help , failing that learn which serials are bad , always check before proceeding and avoid models with affected bcm serial numbers or take the gamble knowing its on you if it goes bad..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapidlocksmiths View Post
    its common knowledge that nissan have various bad bcm modules affecting qashqai j11 , xtrail t32 and rogue models using the prox key system , if you get one of these affected units then no tool can code new keys to it and will kill car , thus why so many avoid the qashqai j11 , xtrail t32 and rogue models with prox system , advanced diagnostics warn of 2 bad bcm serials not to attempt , truecode warns of 4 bad ones to avoid , even tdb warns of 2 on their wiki info, theres a thread on this forum on another one to avoid . theres also a few that some have succeeded and some have killed car , so these can be a lottery at best of times.
    if an affected bcm then not even the dealer can code keys to car with dealer tool without killing it . this has been common knowledge for sometime now , with many threads on the matter on many forums and groups including this forum , with prox systems on these models its a lottery , you get lucky or you dont , plenty avoid them .

    nissan are well aware of the issue as an internal bulletin was sent to all dealers warning them , but despite this they still charge 2k plus if a locksmith kills one , despite it being an issue in their bcm .

    its easy to blame a tool , not so easy to blame ones self if the right checks were not made prior to attempting key programming . ad kit and truecode read the bcm serial prior to programming and warn you to walk away if one of the bad serials and have you click to confirm that you understand that if you proceed you do so at your own risk and cost if it goes wrong .

    did you check bcm serial before proceeding to be certain it wasnt an affected unit as if it was an affected bcm then the fault is purely yours for not checking and of course nissans bad bcm units , and not your tools fault , its become far to easy to blame your tools , of course we dont yet know all the bad bcm units , 1 member here had one that was not listed that killed car , so we dont know all the bad ones yet and some are good sometimes and bad other times , thus why many avoid these .

    those that like a gamble take a chance on them , and charge well , some get lucky and get paid , others get unlucky and must pay the stealer , i guess it comes down to do you do enough of these to make the ones you kill and the cost to fix worthwhile , if you do great , if not then leave them alone , we all like to blame someone but if an affected unit then blame yourself for not researching and checking or blame nissan and their known bad bcm units , but dont blame your tools because their an easy target as you would suffer same fate with dealer tool if an affected unit.
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    it is indeed life and just another cross we bare , just another pit fall

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    Mazda 6 2008 chip 4d63 add key ok

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    Ford F150 2008 USA, AKL ok, add 2x 4D63

    ASX 2012, clear stolen remote key OK (only by AKL). This car is weird, clear remote OK, but can only add 1 remote

    Tried many tool X100, Xpad2, SKP900, Ikey820 all the same.
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    Ford mondeo 2002 tibe key add 1 key ok no need to wait 10 mins.

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    what was the new merc and bmw update yesterday ?
    any information provided is for educational/experimental purposes only.

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    I just found out that if I add key on Astra J and first put the existing key there is no need to wait 10 minutes


    Before I always started with the new key and waited 10 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manta1600 View Post
    I just found out that if I add key on Astra J and first put the existing key there is no need to wait 10 minutes


    Before I always started with the new key and waited 10 minutes
    will try this , have one next week
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    Doing a 2005 Hyundai Tuscan tomorrow does xpad calculate old code for new or do I need to use another tool to do calculation ?

    Thanks 👍🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy07 View Post
    Doing a 2005 Hyundai Tuscan tomorrow does xpad calculate old code for new or do I need to use another tool to do calculation ?

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    2005 you need only 6 last digit, Xpad2 convert to old pin OK

    I never succes read new pin for Kia Hyundai, even with exiting key.
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    Thanks Lion 👍🏻

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    Nissan Micra MK12 works but need to generate pin code from glovebox so need to find a external calculator.

    Renauly Meganes work for key card

    VW Golf 2004 works

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    Will xtool 100 pad do 2012 Nissan Note ( standard key not proxy ) ?

    Does it bypass code and will it add key or delete all keys then put back in ?

    Thanks in advance 👍🏻👍🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy07 View Post
    Will xtool 100 pad do 2012 Nissan Note ( standard key not proxy ) ?

    Does it bypass code and will it add key or delete all keys then put back in ?

    Thanks in advance 

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    Will add key but you will need code that is calculated from glovebox number


    If I remember right will delete all existing keys and then will add back

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